<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: &#8220;History in the making &#8211; may optimism triumph&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/</link>
	<description>Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:17:50 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40058</link>
		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40058</guid>
		<description>It has been called to my attention (by some ol&#039; grump with gall problems) that I have falsely accused Mr. Steyn of failing to pay appropriate homage to our esteemed host, Mr. Simon.  I was mistaken and Mr. Steyn has apparently paid appropriate homage (what&#039;s he done for Roger lately?).  I hope Mr. Steyn accepts my apology and that none of y&#039;all have caused him any inconvenience due to my ignorance.



Can I go out and play again now? I hate sittin&#039; in this corner with the cat&#039;s stoopid litter box.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been called to my attention (by some ol&#8217; grump with gall problems) that I have falsely accused Mr. Steyn of failing to pay appropriate homage to our esteemed host, Mr. Simon.  I was mistaken and Mr. Steyn has apparently paid appropriate homage (what&#8217;s he done for Roger lately?).  I hope Mr. Steyn accepts my apology and that none of y&#8217;all have caused him any inconvenience due to my ignorance.</p>
<p>Can I go out and play again now? I hate sittin&#8217; in this corner with the cat&#8217;s stoopid litter box.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40057</link>
		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 13:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40057</guid>
		<description>Bosonian,



It was not I who quoted Jumblatt!  You give me more credit than I deserve.  I barely know who the guy is and I had to recently go discover what little I do know.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bosonian,</p>
<p>It was not I who quoted Jumblatt!  You give me more credit than I deserve.  I barely know who the guy is and I had to recently go discover what little I do know.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bostonian</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40056</link>
		<dc:creator>Bostonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40056</guid>
		<description>Knucklehead quoted Walid Jumblatt: &quot;I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen.&quot;



I saw MOST of the same quote repeated in a post on the Democratic Underground. The poster, however, omitted the final sentence. I guess that part was TOO TOO HARD TO SAY.


</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knucklehead quoted Walid Jumblatt: &#8220;I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen.&#8221;</p>
<p>I saw MOST of the same quote repeated in a post on the Democratic Underground. The poster, however, omitted the final sentence. I guess that part was TOO TOO HARD TO SAY.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40055</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40055</guid>
		<description>Oh, btw, Knuck...you were on a roll up there. Loved your fisking rants!!




</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Knuck&#8230;you were on a roll up there. Loved your fisking rants!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40054</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40054</guid>
		<description>&quot;Regarding bin Ladens &quot;call&quot; to Zarqawi, how do we interpret that.&quot;



Well, my first thought was &#039;Zarqawi&#039;s a bit busy right now, doesn&#039;t bin laden have anybody else?&quot;



My second thought was that there is so much going on in the region now, that they can&#039;t figure out where to go next, what to do and they&#039;re mad as heck &#039;cause they&#039;re losing. So inside America is their choice. It will be their last gasp. They are a strong horse no longer.



Which brings me back to my first thought. Seems Zarqawi is all old Osama has left.




</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regarding bin Ladens &#8220;call&#8221; to Zarqawi, how do we interpret that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, my first thought was &#8216;Zarqawi&#8217;s a bit busy right now, doesn&#8217;t bin laden have anybody else?&#8221;</p>
<p>My second thought was that there is so much going on in the region now, that they can&#8217;t figure out where to go next, what to do and they&#8217;re mad as heck &#8217;cause they&#8217;re losing. So inside America is their choice. It will be their last gasp. They are a strong horse no longer.</p>
<p>Which brings me back to my first thought. Seems Zarqawi is all old Osama has left.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40053</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40053</guid>
		<description>Bruce W - yep, my thoughts exactly...



as posted above. :)



Regarding bin Ladens &quot;call&quot; to Zarqawi, how do we interpret that.



1) al Queda is on the run and needs the resources elsewhere



2) bin Laden realizes the momentum in Iraq is away from terrorism, and towards democracy. So why fight a lost cause in Iraq.



3) bin Laden realizes the tactics of Z are causing more harm to al Quedas cause than helping it.



All of these?


</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce W &#8211; yep, my thoughts exactly&#8230;</p>
<p>as posted above. <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding bin Ladens &#8220;call&#8221; to Zarqawi, how do we interpret that.</p>
<p>1) al Queda is on the run and needs the resources elsewhere</p>
<p>2) bin Laden realizes the momentum in Iraq is away from terrorism, and towards democracy. So why fight a lost cause in Iraq.</p>
<p>3) bin Laden realizes the tactics of Z are causing more harm to al Quedas cause than helping it.</p>
<p>All of these?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bruce W.</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40052</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40052</guid>
		<description>

Two points.



One:  Roger and many of his contributors should be proud to have come out on the better side of the four possibilities presented by Churchill&#039;s famous quote.  Young liberals with heart that have grown wiser with age ...not necessarily &quot;conservative&quot;, but at least &quot;neo-so&quot;.   You&#039;ve done Winston proud; there is no better model than he for a worlds leader who saw what must be done, painful though it may be.



Within in this analogy I see the MSM as middle-aged... it has the opportunity to grow wiser, but it must choose to do so.  Many of the die-hard liberals simply have too much time and effort invested in their invalidated world view to go softly into their good night, but at least we will benefit from the entertainment of watching them fight it tooth[less] and nail.



Two:  Anyone else catch the brief news piece yesterday that OBL has been suggesting that Zarqawi focus on attacks in the U.S.?  To me that sounds like Zarqawi just lost a no confidence vote from his pappy and is being told in essence to &quot;break it down, pack it up and get the hell out of there....you have failed us.&quot;

Any other possible thoughts (assuming Zarqawi really doesn&#039;t have the logistical capacity to switch sides of the globe at the drop of a hat, whhich I believe (and pray) is true?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points.</p>
<p>One:  Roger and many of his contributors should be proud to have come out on the better side of the four possibilities presented by Churchill&#8217;s famous quote.  Young liberals with heart that have grown wiser with age &#8230;not necessarily &#8220;conservative&#8221;, but at least &#8220;neo-so&#8221;.   You&#8217;ve done Winston proud; there is no better model than he for a worlds leader who saw what must be done, painful though it may be.</p>
<p>Within in this analogy I see the MSM as middle-aged&#8230; it has the opportunity to grow wiser, but it must choose to do so.  Many of the die-hard liberals simply have too much time and effort invested in their invalidated world view to go softly into their good night, but at least we will benefit from the entertainment of watching them fight it tooth[less] and nail.</p>
<p>Two:  Anyone else catch the brief news piece yesterday that OBL has been suggesting that Zarqawi focus on attacks in the U.S.?  To me that sounds like Zarqawi just lost a no confidence vote from his pappy and is being told in essence to &#8220;break it down, pack it up and get the hell out of there&#8230;.you have failed us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any other possible thoughts (assuming Zarqawi really doesn&#8217;t have the logistical capacity to switch sides of the globe at the drop of a hat, whhich I believe (and pray) is true?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40051</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40051</guid>
		<description>I think for many of us, it was the same moment.



Sept 11 2001



http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-16.html



THE PRESIDENT: Good evening. Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. The victims were in airplanes, or in their offices; secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers; moms and dads, friends and neighbors. Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror.



The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong.



A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.



America was targeted for attack because we&#039;re the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining.



...



The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I&#039;ve directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.



...



America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world, and we stand together to win the war against terrorism. Tonight, I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: &quot;Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me.&quot;



This is a day when all Americans from every walk of life unite in our resolve for justice and peace. America has stood down enemies before, and we will do so this time. None of us will ever forget this day. Yet, we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for many of us, it was the same moment.</p>
<p>Sept 11 2001</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-16.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010911-16.html</a></p>
<p>THE PRESIDENT: Good evening. Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. The victims were in airplanes, or in their offices; secretaries, businessmen and women, military and federal workers; moms and dads, friends and neighbors. Thousands of lives were suddenly ended by evil, despicable acts of terror.</p>
<p>The pictures of airplanes flying into buildings, fires burning, huge structures collapsing, have filled us with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed; our country is strong.</p>
<p>A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.</p>
<p>America was targeted for attack because we&#8217;re the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The search is underway for those who are behind these evil acts. I&#8217;ve directed the full resources of our intelligence and law enforcement communities to find those responsible and to bring them to justice. We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>America and our friends and allies join with all those who want peace and security in the world, and we stand together to win the war against terrorism. Tonight, I ask for your prayers for all those who grieve, for the children whose worlds have been shattered, for all whose sense of safety and security has been threatened. And I pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in Psalm 23: &#8220;Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a day when all Americans from every walk of life unite in our resolve for justice and peace. America has stood down enemies before, and we will do so this time. None of us will ever forget this day. Yet, we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jack Tanner</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40050</guid>
		<description>KI -



Dead on - it goes back to whenever Bush decided to forsake the terror collaborators and sympathizers and change the world. If he had listened to the &#039;Not in our name&#039; fools and &#039;traditional allies&#039; excuse makers then Jan 30th never would have happened.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KI -</p>
<p>Dead on &#8211; it goes back to whenever Bush decided to forsake the terror collaborators and sympathizers and change the world. If he had listened to the &#8216;Not in our name&#8217; fools and &#8216;traditional allies&#8217; excuse makers then Jan 30th never would have happened.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40049</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/02/28/history-in-the-making-may-optimism-triumph/#comment-40049</guid>
		<description>Why is all this happening?



Go a little farther back than Jan 30th.  That event didn&#039;t spring from nothingness.



It happened because we have a leader, and a visionary.



And for anyone who doubt that the leg work for this was set before Iraq was invaded, take a look back to the National Security Strategy of 2002.  Remember, that&#039;s the one that the MSM couldn&#039;t get past saying &quot;pre-emptive&quot; a few million times.  If you read the whole document you&#039;ll see a much more complex and comprehensive strategy.  The fruits of which we are now seeing.



http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html



&quot;Our Nation&#039;s cause has always been larger than our Nation&#039;s defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peaceóa peace that favors liberty. We will defend the peace against the threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every continent.&quot; President Bush - West Point, New York - June 1, 2002
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is all this happening?</p>
<p>Go a little farther back than Jan 30th.  That event didn&#8217;t spring from nothingness.</p>
<p>It happened because we have a leader, and a visionary.</p>
<p>And for anyone who doubt that the leg work for this was set before Iraq was invaded, take a look back to the National Security Strategy of 2002.  Remember, that&#8217;s the one that the MSM couldn&#8217;t get past saying &#8220;pre-emptive&#8221; a few million times.  If you read the whole document you&#8217;ll see a much more complex and comprehensive strategy.  The fruits of which we are now seeing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Our Nation&#8217;s cause has always been larger than our Nation&#8217;s defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peaceóa peace that favors liberty. We will defend the peace against the threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every continent.&#8221; President Bush &#8211; West Point, New York &#8211; June 1, 2002</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
