Roger L. Simon

March 7th, 2005 7:34 am

The Sgrena Manifesto

Glenn says the recent revelation that Italian intelligence did not notify the Americans that they ransomed Il Manifesto journalist Giuliana Sgrena, inadvertently causing death and injury, is an example of Italian “ineptitude“. Glenn, as usual, is being a gentleman. The reported ransom number was a healthy six million dollars. That buys a considerable arsenal of weapons with which to blow up Iraqis and American soldiers. A lot of potential blood flows from this deal — innocent blood. And the Italians knew it. No wonder they were keeping mum about it. I’d call it cowardice, not ineptitude.

Now don’t get me wrong, much as I think Sgrena a complete fuddy-duddy reactionary (how else to describe the outdated blather printed by Il Manifesto?), I’d probably have been begging for my life, as she did, too. But one thing is sure… Giuliana Sgrena is no La Pasionaria. She’s a petty little weasel of a journalist who cried like a frightened infant when in the arms of terrorist thugs (we all saw it, Giuliana!) and now pretends she’s someone brave and important. How pathetic!

MEANWHILE: Berlusconi covers his you-know-what at a state funeral. (Don’t you wonder what he’s really thinking?)
lebanon.jpgBut on the bright and far more important side, democracy demonstrations continue in Beirut… to the tune of 150,000+ people! That’s a huge number, considering the population of Lebanon.

UPDATE: Corriere della Sera – arguably Italy’s best known newspaper – talks sense.

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27 Comments

1. Robert Crawford:

Wouldn’t you love to hear what Oriana Fallaci has to say about this?

Mar 7, 2005 - 7:52 am 2. Roger:

No kidding! Let’s hope we do.

Mar 7, 2005 - 7:54 am 3. Lola:

I hope now that somebody’s going to be asking these questions that ought to be straightforwardly easy to answer:

Who put up the 6 million dollars?

Did anybody within the Italian government know about it? If so, who? And who signed off on it?

Did anyone in the Italian government have a vested interest in not informing the American authorities as to the fact that this reporter had been released and to watch out for her at the checkpoints? Was it sheer incompetence? Or did anyone want to make the Americans look bad?

Do Italians run their own checkpoints? If so, what are the their routines; in other words, what are their orders if the car refuses to stop when it is 10pm at night?

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:01 am 4. mrp:

Six mill is quite a lot of money for a right-wing Italian PM to pay for the release of a rad-Left correspondent. But it isn’t if one figures that $6,000,000/3000 Italian troops comes out to $2,000 per soldier. All quiet on the Italian front?

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:14 am 5. Lola:

Meanwhile, here’s what is supposed to be a picture of Zarqawi who is said to be alive and well in Iraq . . .

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050307/photos_wl_me_afp/050307161823_xm1m64ha_photo0&e=1&ncid=

Somebody tell me what’s wrong with the picture. It looks suspiciously photoshopized to me . . .

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:24 am 6. TigerHawk:

Your point about the huge size of the demonstrations in Lebanon is striking — the same proportion of population in the United States would be roughly 17 million people.

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:37 am 7. Lola:

Meanwhile,found out via Instapundit that Citizen Smash has a partial transcript up on hs blog; there was a very interesting conversation betweek Bill Robertson and Katie Couric on NBC Today:

http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/2005/03/did_he_just_say.html#

Very interesting coments, at that from a prominent Democrat. I guess he’ll have to take up his seat next to Zell Miller.

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:43 am 8. Lola:

Looking through the slide show, I’m seeing several pictures of Pakistani Pres. Gen. Musharraf happearing with Hariri’s window, and with the Hariri’s sons. Apparently he was in the country to pay condolences to the Hariri family. Geez … remarkable pictures that I’m seeing from Lebanon . . .

Mar 7, 2005 - 8:56 am 9. Terrye:

I hear that Hezbellah will be planning counter demostrations tomorrow.

You know if they could really get all those together at one time in one place…..

As for the Italians most of the lefties are saying that since the story appears in The Washington Times it is nonsense. After all everyone knows that American soldiers routlinely target brave journalists to keep them from telling the truth about the nefarious and horrendous abuses perpetrated by the nasty soldier people.

I bet that if the road side bombs that will be purchased with that ransom money were showing up in Naples, Rome and Florence instead of Baghdad, Hillah and Tikrit the Italian communists would not be so ready to suck up to the socalled resistance.

Resistance my ass. Zarqawi is not DeGualle, the elected government of Iraq is not the Vichy and the US is not the Nazis occupying Poland. Back ass wards dumbasses.

Mar 7, 2005 - 9:23 am 10. PeterUK:

An interesting article on the Sgrena affair http://washingtontimes.com/world/20050307-120131-5769r.htm

via Instapundit

Looks like Calipari hadn’t been in military intelligence very long.

Mar 7, 2005 - 9:27 am 11. PeterUK:

Sorry to repeat your link Roger.

Mar 7, 2005 - 9:33 am 12. clarice:

You’re the mystery writer, Roger, but if I were writing this I’d have Ciprani killed before the car ever left on the road to the airport.

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:03 am 13. Bruce W.:

150K demonstration number is Huge! Makes me much less concerned about the Hizbollah gathering tomorrow—I’m feeling anon-event coming.

The photo of the red, white and Cedar-filled sea that Roger posted is Powerful.

Continue paying attention and taking notes, this month will see more real history.

For an interesting perspective, check out Michael Barone’s article linked below (or if not properly linked, it’s the fourth item of the day on realclearpolitics.com

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-3_7_05_MB.html

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:05 am 14. Mark Poling:

Lola, you’re right, that picture of Zarqawi (and especially the caption beneath) had a definite “not dead yet” feel to it.

We’ll know his career is over when he delivers a three minute, stylishly choreographed ultimatum during a Superbowl halftime show, where the wardrobe malfunction involves a supposedly fake explosive belt that turns out to be real, taking the Z Man and a few of his closest friends to their 72 each virginal clones of Andrea Dworkin who happen to have issues with the whole burqa thing….

Too much caffeine, sorry.

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:20 am 15. Lola:

Meanwhile, guess who Bush has chosen to become the UN ambassador? Yesiree . . . John Bolton.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20050307/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_u_n__ambassador

Let’s see how the Dems try to weasel out of this. And it should be so entertaining to watch the fireworks go off at UN>

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:29 am 16. Carol_Herman:

Stinking Italians are playing both sides of the street. Calipari is dead. After handing terrorists in Iraq ANOTHER $6,000,000 for the faked kidnapping of a floozy. And, President Bush says he’s going to investigate this till our troops vomit?

When the Italians cough up $6,000,000 to each of our fine military officers now caught in their stinking double-dealing whammy, I might change my mind. But that money, given to terrorists, buys ammunition that kills our soldiers. YOU THINK THE ITALIANS ARE ANGRY? Wait till you see how angry I am at them right now! Mafia cretins.

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:32 am 17. Lola:

when she says that she personally picked ìhandfuls of bulletsî off the seat, but that, in this premeditated rain of fire from an armored vehicle against an automobile with no armor plating, only one passenger actually died?

She said that??? Then why weren’t her hands ripped to shreds? This statement I find so incredulous as to conclude that she must be a neurotic woman prone to hysterics who would greatly benefit from several months at a mental hospital.

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:40 am 18. Carol_Herman:

TO BRUCE W. AND OTHERS WHO REGARD FDR IN HIGH ESTEEM. Let me point out that he was a politician. In America. That had two BIG factions in HIS government. The Isolationist FASCISTS (like this president’s grandfather. And, JFK’s own father, who was made ambassador to England.) AND, the COMMIES! Like Vice President Wallace! Only in the last of FDR’s terms did he veer from Wallace TO Truman. (I think Wallace died.)

Let me rephrase this: THERE WERE RUSSIAN AGENTS AT THE HEART OF OUR GOVERNMENT. Just as there would be later, with Ben-Gurion, at the heart of his, when Israel was established in 1948.

Our media played up Joseph McCarthy’s FAULTS. But the State Department and the nascient intelligence agencies were frought with RUSSIAN TROOPS.

Here’s your clue: FDR called Stalin “UNCLE JOE.” And, at Yalta, asking for NOTHING, he handed Stalin Eastern Europe! The history books are wide open on what happened.

Also, at Yalta, Churchill was ODD MAN OUT! And, Stalin took to insulting him at the dinner table one night. Knowing full well that FDR was a cripple. Who couldn’t rise from his chair. To follow the insulted Churchill out of the room!

A few months later, FDR died. And, Churchill did not come to the funeral.

Also, if you look at the Marshall Plan’s financial rewards to our enemies, france, germany and belgium did better than England, at the table of investment capital pouring into war torn Europe. England, was actually left to bleed to death. And, Poland (the first reason England went to war in WW2, was handed as a prize from the nazi’s, to the russians.) We’re going to need a puke basket when this history finally all comes out!

Another tidbit: When Churchill, who did not play a role in Truman’s government, finally came to the USA, under a Truman invitation. And, Churchill spoke at Truman’s home state college, giving the famous “IRON CURTAIN” speech, guess what! Truman was outraged! He said he didn’t know those words were going to be there!

What’s it going to take, after our own schools decided to divest itself of responsibility in teaching history to students … what’s it going to take to correct the record?

It’s no wonder to me, now, that the democratic party has fallen on hard times. Americans, even when they’re in the dark, shy away from socialism and it’s ills. Just as it doesn’t truck with fascism, either.

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:47 am 19. erp:

Is that picture of the Lebanese waving real or photo shop?

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:55 am 20. Roger:

If that photo is Photoshopped (which I doubt) blame the Associated Press, not me. It’s in their slide show of events in the Lebanon. Click on the link above.

Mar 7, 2005 - 11:11 am 21. Captain Hate:

Carol,

Henry Wallace was dropped as the VP candidate by the donks in ‘44 in perhaps their last act with the best interests of the country in mind. FDR still wanted him around as Secretary of Commerce but Truman had absolutely no use for him and he went packing. He was editor of the New Republic and ran for President against Truman and Dewey, in which he received no significant support. He died in 1965.

Mar 7, 2005 - 12:11 pm 22. Syl:

Lola

“Meanwhile, here’s what is supposed to be a picture of Zarqawi who is said to be alive and well in Iraq . . . ”

Oh Sheeeet. That means he’s left Iraq. Probably taking bin laden up on his offer.

Sounds like disinformation to me. Zarqawi probably went over the border some time ago.

Mar 7, 2005 - 1:00 pm 23. Carol_Herman:

Captain Hate. GOOD! You’ve helped me sort stuff out. Just didn’t remember why Wallace got knocked off the FDR’s ticket when he won his 4th term. But, my argument, that there’s more to what was going on in terms of fascist/commie strength built into our State Department, and beyond, still stands.

We had a Trojan Horse. Among other things, Alger Hiss was a russian spy. The Rosenberg’s helped russia get “the bomb.” And, we’ve suffered consequences, galore. Lots of old impressions, not discussed openly, yet, will be addressed in future history books. Because up until now we’ve only gotten hagiography. JFK’s murder. And, now terrorism. Without this President’s resolve: OY VEY

Mar 7, 2005 - 1:13 pm 24. Carol_Herman:

To those who remember those Catskill’s road signs going up to Grossinger’s, this one brought back memories. (Posted up at Freeper’s). This just made me smile. Lucky, we get lots of people with strong opinions, in a free country, who love to share their comments. (To those that don’t know. You’d get a sentence per sign, every few miles or so.) Old Brands, not forgotten, still.

The Troops were Stern

But the car came Whizzin

The Fault Was Hern

The Funeral Hizzin

Burma Shave

Mar 7, 2005 - 10:17 pm 25. jukeboxgrad:

“the recent revelation that Italian intelligence did not notify the Americans”

Roger, it’s quite amazing that you’re still trying to spread the idea that the US was in the dark. Strong evidence contrary to this can be found in my posts on your earlier thread.

Mar 8, 2005 - 2:14 pm 26. M. Simon:

juke,

I’ve seen images of the car. It seems that the hail of American bullets that left quite a few spent bullets on the seat of the auto (according to the authoress) left no discernable holes in the sheet metal and only one or possibly two small holes in the glass.

Do you have any idea how good American technology must be to accomplish such a feat?

The other option is that the Americans aimed for the driver of a vehicle that wouldn’t stop and got him with one shot. At night. In a war zone.

Such precision. Such self control.

Evidently the authoress is some kind of hysterical Italian woman. (with apologies to my wife who is part Italian). Who makes up stories to suit her anti-capitalist fantasies.

Juke, nice to see you supporting such defenders of truth. You are one class act.

Mar 8, 2005 - 4:49 pm 27. jukeboxgrad:

M. Simon, I took the liberty of answering you here, since that thread seems more alive than this one.

Mar 8, 2005 - 8:20 pm

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