128 Comments

1. foreign devil:

…’pajamasmedia.com’! Too much! Best of luck and what a great idea! Simplifies everything on both ends. I guess one’s blog would need to generate a certain amount of traffic to be worthwhile but if that hurdle is a problem, it certainly simplifies for the blogger, approaching advertisers who might want to advertise.

Apr 28, 2005 - 6:57 pm 2. reel cobra:

But do we still get Pamela Anderson on your page?

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:02 pm 3. marky48:

The board seems a bit lopsided doesn’t it? Marc Cooper and the conservatives. What kind of readership requirements are there?

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:14 pm 4. Richard Nieporent:

Wouldn’t it be much simpler to just get Arianna Huffington to bankroll you?

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:26 pm 5. Stephen_M:

marky48 – PC w/modem, ISP, literacy. Happy? No, of course you aren’t. The Way to Happiness — form your own board. May we contact you at momigotaloadinmypjs.com?

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:28 pm 6. PeterUK:

“What kind of readership requirements are there?”

The ability to read without moving your lips and running your finger accross the screen,there are those around who will help with the big words.

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:32 pm 7. ms anne:

i may start a blog just to join you guys. a pajama party is too tempting to turn down. and besides, it looks like you need a few girls on the list to even things up. best wishes to a great idea whose time has come, thanks to your hard work and good writing.

Apr 28, 2005 - 7:36 pm 8. WTYates:

What kind of control wuld we have over what ads appear on our site? Will this work for Blogspot blogs?

Apr 28, 2005 - 8:20 pm 9. marky48:

I see the same imbecilic trolls live under all bridges here. How quaint. Readership refers to numbers of viewers. Of course these nitwits don’t actually create anything of their own so I can see where difficulty comes in with my question.

Apr 28, 2005 - 8:24 pm 10. Roger:

ms. anne, we already have some women with us – notably one of my faves, Ms. Seipp – also the estimable Ann Althouse – but we want more and I have no doubt we will get more.

WTYates, bloggers will have the ability to reject ads. Also we will plan for Blgospot and all popular plaforms.

marky48, I banned you. (First person in months). I just lost patience. Sorry.

Apr 28, 2005 - 8:40 pm 11. Rick Ballard:

C’mon Roger, as long as you’re at it, toss in SteveJ. There is no material difference.

Apr 28, 2005 - 8:57 pm 12. ahem:

It’s an interesting idea and I look forward to seeing what comes of it. The model for broadcasting information is changing radically. I mean, if even Sam Donaldson realizes it, then it’s already a fact, right? It’s probably time for us to try a few ideas out to see what the possibilities are. Not every idea may succeed, but one or two are bound to stick.

marky48: Roger’s place is a fairly civilized township in the blogging universe. A great many of us are social liberals who just believe that Bush was a better choice for President than Kerry. Many of us feel that the Democratic party–as we once knew it–is gone. We are fairly thoughtful, no longer walk on our knuckles and rarely froth at the mouth. Consequently, we realize that Marc Cooper is both a journalist with integrity and a good man–even when we disagree with him. We’re what used to be called ‘Liberal’ in the traditional, or original, sense of the word. As such, we are more interested in slogging through contradictions in our quest to discover the truth than we are interested in dividing ourselves into artificial constituencies.

I know I’m not alone in hoping that Marc’s participation will encourage serious writers from every edge of the political universe to participate. It can only be good.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:04 pm 13. Patrick Tyson:

Good luck.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:10 pm 14. ahem:

marky48: You have to understand that Roger is probably one of the most easy-going guys you’ll ever meet. If he became irritated enough to ban you, you should probably re-evaluate your behavior.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:15 pm 15. chuck:

Hi Roger,

I appreciate the fact that you have been doing original reporting over the last few months. The production of news reports, as opposed to comments, has been one of the missing ingredients in the transformation of media. I congratulate you on your hard work and hope this venture grows into something significant.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:17 pm 16. Kevin P:

Roger:

I decided to give Marky a break by checking out his blog. He had 10 post’s dated from April 15th to April 28th. Most were about enviromental issues. He had received a grand total of 2 comments for all his posts. His opening line about himself mentioned his wisdom and punditry. It must be the quaint idiocy of the blogosphere that is keeping everyone away from his site.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:21 pm 17. MisterBixby:

I’ll soon be moving from blogger to misterbixby.com. I look forward to joining your venture. As small as my readership is (*cough*nonexistent*cough*) I’m suite I could garner enough click-through to cover hosting costs. This sounds like the biggest benefit to small-time bloggers in such a plan. I think this is a fantastic idea and once I graduate to a “real” blog I’ll certainly be joining.

Well done lads and lasses, your noggins appear to be engaged in full genius mode!

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:25 pm 18. MisterBixby:

of course “suite” means sure in my native tongue, I just forgot to, um, translate in the above comment.

Yeah. That’s the ticket….

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:29 pm 19. JB:

Blog News Service would be terrific — something that is sorely needed and wanted by many who no longer trust the MSM spin.

Apr 28, 2005 - 9:49 pm 20. PeterUK:

Poor Marky Snark,the worst case of projection I’ve ever seen.

Why do those starting a blog think that the best way to attract commenters to their sites is to sneer and jeer on the site of an emminent and established blogger?

There is obviously the fastest gun in the West syndrome in evidence here,but they invariably end up like Daffy Duck with their beaks shot off.

The real way is to link the thread with something apposite on their sites,make careful and intelligent comment,worked for all the great bloggers.

Invent a better mousetrap and the world will flock to your door,if however, it is only mouse crap……

Apr 29, 2005 - 3:44 am 21. Mr. Davis:

This is to be a for profit corporate effort. When one starts talking money like that, lawyers aren’t far behind. And whatever lawyers start, legislators finish. This is the beginning of the end of the Golden Age of the blogosphere. Now if they could get Den Beste to write occasional features…

Apr 29, 2005 - 4:03 am 22. Scott Ferguson:

Roger, as someone who actually RUNS something of a blog aggregator (really a table of contents service), I wish you luck.

In my opinion, pure aggregators have only limited appeal. They turn blogs into “information cole slaw” that destroys the character of its constituent parts. Take for example Glenn Reynolds. If you read his blog daily, you get a feel for who Glenn is as a person. But if you inserted one of his twenty-word squibs into a stream with content from a dozen other blogs, you would not know who wrote it (unless, of course, he put one of his signature “Heh.” or “Indeed.” one-word sentences in it.)

Glenn Reynolds and James Lileks are at the opposite end of the spectrum. Once in awhile Glenn has an interesting opinion, but his blog is mostly a news service. He’s the Louella Parsons of the blogosphere. News drops in his lap via email from his many thousands of fans, and he just picks the best stuff. At the other end, the beautiful mind of James Lileks emits its daily, artful, ruminative essay that would be impossible to aggregate, even if he would let you do it.

Between Reynolds and Lileks are seven million or so blogs published by news junkies, self-styled prophets, and navel gazers (in various combinations and permutations); and each blogger, to a man, believes this his opinion is the Most Important Opinion In The World.

Heh. And you’re going to make a business out of this? Indeed.

If the “info cole slaw” aggregators aren’t very sticky, then what’s the alternative? It’s selecting the “A-list” bloggers and paying them; and providing some sort of over-arching editorial persona that a reader can warm up to.

Then, effectively, you have Slate. Has that ever made money?

During the last election cycle, money was flowing into blog advertising (and sometimes, as with Markos Zuniga, directly into the pockets of bloggers) because the blogosphere is an open market for actual or potential opinion leaders. But this phenomenon won’t occur again until at least the 2006 election cycle; and not with similar intensity until 2008.

Is this enough to build a business on? All I can say is, don’t stop writing mystery novels!

Apr 29, 2005 - 4:45 am 23. Scott Ferguson:

By the way, thank you for plugging PunditDrome.com last October. I still get hits from that link.

Apr 29, 2005 - 4:58 am 24. Scott Ferguson:

“No, wait! We’ll put on our own show! In the barn!”–Mickey Rooney (to Judy Garland)

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:05 am 25. Buddy Larsen:

Thanks for the twerp-toss, Roger. He will assume that his ideas are just too much for us; he’ll never notice that his only idea so far has been to be as nasty as possible. The closest thing to a political position that I ever noticed, was the familiar and perfectly perverse cheap grandstand accusation of right-wing death-mongering. As if one is either a “there’s no tomorrow” moral-idiot pacifist-at-any-price, or Hitler’s love child. That’s not political debate, is it? No, it isn’t, it’s juvenile and unpleasant, and you did the right thing.

That said, great enterprise and innovation, and all the very best of luck to ya!

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:06 am 26. Buddy Larsen:

Scott, that’s one of my favorite scenes in all moviedom…don’t know why…but a delight to’ve seen it just now…thanks for the broad grin!

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:08 am 27. Charlie (Colorado):

Buddy, isn’t that scene in *every* Andy Hardy movie?

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:26 am 28. Charlie (Colorado):

Scott, I dunno — I’ve run some numbers on this kind of thing myself, and the “long tail” phenomenon really shows up. (In this context, what I’m saying is that marginal cost per “copy” is so small that periodicals can be profitable with tiny, tiny criculations.) I think you’re right, though, about the form: simply aggregating headlines won’t get page views, there will have to be an “editorial” view as well.

Here’s some stuff on the “long tail”:

Wired

“The Long Tail” blog

(By the way, I recommend googling for “long tail” quoted if you’re at work.)

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:33 am 29. Buddy Larsen:

Ha, funny capper, Charlie!

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:37 am 30. Scott Ferguson:

Charlie,

I think the “long tail” phenomenon is an internet-empowered manifestation of the culture of narcissism. The web is not a tool for communication, it’s a tool for reflection. People create artificial mind-universes based on established predispositions. Look at in another way, it’s the tribalism of identity that Marshall McLuhan predicted long before the web emerged. Blogs are the local newspapers of the tribe you pick.

In such an environment, how do you effectively market advertising space? It’s a matter of aggregating micro markets. Blogads doesn’t bother to go that far — they just present a list of blogs and a hit figure, and you have to determine whether the blog targets the people you want to reach. That’s not helpful.

I’m going to stop here, because I’ll end up discussing a new project I’m working on. But I don’t think selling space based on a simple “eyeballs to audience” formula will attract advertisers who are willing to pay a premium for it.

Apr 29, 2005 - 6:58 am 31. Keith_Indy:

Cool beans, and good luck…

I have to agree, while I don’t always agree with Marc Cooper, he’s a good, and fair writer for the most part.

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:20 am 32. Charlie (Colorado):

Scott, like all advertising, it’s targeted demographics you’re selling. Drudge apparently draws about $70K a month because he’s got a very broad demo, and can therefore sell to big advertisers for big prices. The trick will be if you can target very small demos effectively.

If you’ve got someone selling goth black-on-black cross-stitch projects and you can target the twelve goth-grrls who do cross-stitch you’ll have something.

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:20 am 33. Jamie Irons:

Count me among those who worry about this idea.

I can’t quite pin down my misgivings.

More than two years ago (IIRC), I was led to Roger’s blog by one of Roger’s comments on LGF, which I had been following closely since 9/11. Since then, I have been delighted by the clear thinking, simple humanity, and trenchant analysis (myself excluded, naturally!) of the commenters that have assembled at Roger’s place.

I have contributed substantially (money, I mean, not ideas!) to both LGF and Roger’s blog (and they are the only ones) because I believe that each, in a unique way, offers information and perspective that is invaluable.

While I don’t think this quality will be quickly lost under the new plan, I am worried about the “corporatization leading to lawyers leading to legislators” phenomenon mentioned above.

But even if that doesn’t happen, I worry that the “labor of love” aspect of blogging, which makes (some of) the product so pure and free of cant and posing may get lost.

I speak as a lover of poetry, who has watched many poets lose their edge when they achieve “success.”

Jamie Irons

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:22 am 34. richard mcenroe:

I’ll be jacklighting a deer in memory of poor Marky48…

Roger, you’ve gone from occupying the Dean’s office to becoming your very own corporate monolith! Your journey is complete… *wheeze*click*

Have you invited Moxie on board?

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:31 am 35. ed:

Intriguing idea. However, ìBlog News Serviceî is a fairly arrogant name considering he political tilt of the editors doesnít reflect the diversity of the blogosphere. But weíll see.

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:43 am 36. richard mcenroe:

Hey! I found your new site logo!

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:53 am 37. Buddy Larsen:

Always wise to listen closely to critics: The US standard railroad gauge (between-rail distance) is 4′8.5″, because English expats built them to the specs of pre-railroad horse-drawn trams, which had that particular spacing because of the valuable inventory of jigs and tools built up from when any other spacing would break axles and wheels on the permanent ruts in the long-distance roads of England. These were Roman roads, with ruts formed by Imperial Roman Legionary wagons, which had been so designed as to maximize motor efficiency for the posterior size and movements of two side-by-side horses.

Now to the Space Shuttle: Thiokol engineers in Utah build the big solid rocket boosters. The engineers would’ve preferred the SRBs to be a bit shorter and wider, but the railroad from factory to launch site runs through mountain tunnels just wider than the tracks. So the SRBs were shaped to that 4′8.5″ track gauge.

So, a major feature of mankind’s Leap into Space was determined thousands of years ago by a couple of horse’s asses. This must mean something, right?

Apr 29, 2005 - 8:36 am 38. Nick:

Absolutely terriffic… I’d love to help support your effort.

Apr 29, 2005 - 8:42 am 39. Bruce W.:

Buddy: Pardon my thickness (I hope it’s just the Friday, running on fumes, state), but I’m missing the connection of your last post. Can you ’splain, Lucy?

ed: Not sure if Roger and co. intend “Blog News Service” as the final name or a working title/project name. (Roger?) But I can’t think of too many well known news/opinion pub’ns that have names that clearly indicate their leanings, if any, though it might be refereshing if some did. Something that captures critical thinking and informed/reasoned opinions would be great for this endeavor.

Perhaps a name contest is in order. RS?

Apr 29, 2005 - 9:45 am 40. Ryne McClaren:

I guess I fail to see how this isn’t an “exclusive” endeavor, since I see the names of no mere mortals of the blogging realm in this post. Basically, it sounds like the only way people can participate is by letting you put ads on our site or something.

So my question is this: what’s in it for the people who don’t run 100,000+ hits/day mega-blogs, and want to help?

I’ll send an e-mail and find out, I guess.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:01 am 41. Ian S.:

Ryan: agreed that it seems that way at first blush, but there are two facts that tend to dispute the “elitist” interpretation:

1) Charles Johnson is involved

2) Wonkette isn’t

The former becuase Charles is probably the most honest man in blogging this side of Lileks and the latter because any time “big-name” bloggers get together (usually on some MSM show) to lord it over everyone, she’s *always* there.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:29 am 42. Kevin P:

Roger:

Do I think this will work? I have no idea. The thing that isa so great about it is that if it doesn’t work the group starting it will not go into the massive debt that a failed newspaper or TV station entails. The relatively low risk allows creative people to give it a shot without ruining their lives.Some of the objections to the idea seem accurate but since this is new and the nature of the blogosphere is not set in stone yet it still could work. Before Drudge set up shop I doubt that you could find a single “expert” who wouldn’t have laughed at the idea. In spirit this reminds me of the era of the beginning of artificial flight. It sounded absurd and no one could see a reason for the effort but some bold spirits plowed ahead with it anyway. Plus no is going to die trying. I salute your effort and I am looking forward to see how it progresses.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:35 am 43. Buddy Larsen:

Bruce, you’re right, it was stretched so thin it wasn’t there. There was something about the little bit of rain on Roger’s parade maybe falling from a too-static analysis. I read somewhere that Americans are–net of email–now spending 15% of their time on the web. Google’s earnings growth is accelerating (up X6 in Q1)–if the P/E catches up, it’ll be a $400–or more (maybe MUCH more) stock. That’ll have to wait for a more buoyant market than this crabby mess we’ve had all of ‘05 so far. But still.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:36 am 44. Bruce W.:

Completely OT, but Debka has this possibly excellent news (or, excellent news, if true):

An announcement of Osama bin Ladenís death appears Friday in one of his close aidesí most credible Web sites. It has sparked a storm of controversy in al Qaeda circles, some of whom claim notice is false.

Signed by the Pen of Jihad Warriors, the site provides no information on circumstances of death, only asks:

Where are those who break out of borders? Where are the lamenters? Where are those who throw themselves from the tops of towers and skyscrapers? Where are the heart-rending cries?

Egyptian bin Laden adherent, Yasser Sari, calls notice a lie and promises new videotape soon in which leader announces end of al Qaeda truce in Europe. Other followers credit the announcement as ìauthentic and Islamic.î

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:48 am 45. Vexorg:

Just make sure you don’t agree to pay Den Beste by the word, or he’d bankrupt the whole thing in a week…

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:48 am 46. Rick Ballard:

Ian,

I’d put Roger at Charle’s shoulder in terms of honesty. Kind of a photo finish type of thing. I agree 100% about what’s her name not being there as a positive.

If any of the individuals involved were not successful in their own right (without blogs) then there might be room for concern about potential ‘change’. I don’t doubt that there will be some evolution as the project progresses but “selling out for profit” isn’t a matter worthy of much thought. These ain’t po’ boys thrust into the spotlight of fame.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:49 am 47. Buddy Larsen:

It’s almost as if bold honesty is a sort of natural force that having taken horrified flight from the MSM has had to alight elsewhere.

Apr 29, 2005 - 10:55 am 48. Kyda Sylvester:

The market place meets the market place of ideas. I like it–especially the part about the news service. So, when do you go public? (Have you seen the price of Google lately?!) My only comment as a consumer is that I have narrow interests when it comes to spending money and seldom click on an ad. Best of luck in the venture. Sounds like a winner.

Apr 29, 2005 - 11:38 am 49. erp:

Someday we’ll all say we were there at the beginning. Congratulations all around.

Let’s see? At some date far in the future, Roger reflects on the twists and turns of fate and decides to write his memoirs. Thusly he might begin, “High up in my corner office overlooking the city lights, I often think of the early years, that long ago time before the great blogospheric explosion that changed my life and the lives of … “

Apr 29, 2005 - 12:34 pm 50. Emmett Grogan:

Well, that spells the end of cheap Webblog advertising for small businessmen like me. I guess it was inevitable. Maybe you can charge $3,000+ a month like Instapundit. I hope you and Johnson have fun making your pile of cash.

Apr 29, 2005 - 12:43 pm 51. Buddy Larsen:

Emmett, from one small businessman to another, aren’t we trying to grow, to pass something on when we retire? The whole idea is to do well so that you can do good. If you were just kidding, then forgive my tin-ear.

Apr 29, 2005 - 12:52 pm 52. Emmett Grogan:

No, I’m not kidding, and I have no clue what you are talking about.

Apr 29, 2005 - 12:58 pm 53. Kevin P:

Roger:

“Marc Cooper and the conservatives”

And they say that Cardinal Ratzinger was to harsh on dissenters. Yes, Roger was for the war. Pro gay marriage, pro choice, free speech warrior, not a zealot about it but hardly a cheerleader for monotheism. Yet suddenly there is no difference between Hugh Hewitt and Roger. That quote was the perfect example of the thought fascism of some on the left.

Apr 29, 2005 - 1:03 pm 54. Buddy Larsen:

Well, I want Roger to have Soros money, so that Soros money won’t be quite so powerful.

But, seriously, if the market has priced past you, you have a right to be peeved. Happens all the time. Some vendors will grandfather service rates for the oldest and most loyal clients. But you have to be pretty discreet about the arrangement, or you’ll mess up your benefactor’s business.

Apr 29, 2005 - 1:14 pm 55. Fresh Air:

Scott–

It does sound to me a little like Slate. But the reason Slate isn’t more successful is because it preaches to the choir: left-of-center types reading what other lefties write. How does it distinguish itself from the same content at all the other left-wing publications?

What the gang appears to be creating is a more diverse, and hence provocative, right-of-center Slate that could combine the best of the blogs with the best of dead-tree thought pieces. Let’s face it: NRO does not have the most stimulating conservative writers. Tech Central Station’s pieces, while thoughtful, are glaringly lacking in depth. And much of what Charles, Roger, Ed, Wretchard and others do, is call attention to stories and invite comments. So I don’t really see what you lose except the “community” feel from the comments section.

Aggregating the best thought pieces from the center-right universe is a great way, IMO, to build a better mousetrap. The site probably shouldn’t allow comments, though, in order to preserve online communities like this one.

Apr 29, 2005 - 1:23 pm 56. Buddy Larsen:

The mkts rallied strongly in the last two hours, oil dropped like a plummet stone, over two bucks, while the stocks of the multinational (terror-hostage) oil companies gained. Can’t help but wonder about that Osama rumor….

Apr 29, 2005 - 1:26 pm 57. toc001:

Would this “news service” consist of actual fact finding and reporting or the traditional conservative “cut and paste” reporting of the JimmyJeffGuckertGannon variety from White House Propoganda er I mean press releases?

Apr 29, 2005 - 1:51 pm 58. Buddy Larsen:

Don’t you mean “propaganda”? And you mean conservatives DIDN’T win the White House, Senate, House of Representatives, all those statehouses and governorships, and AREN’T in the midst of cleaning out a world liberal-party blood-for-money crime syndicate?

Damn, can’t believe anything these days.

Apr 29, 2005 - 2:08 pm 59. flenser:

The mkts rallied strongly in the last two hours, oil dropped like a plummet stone, over two bucks, while the stocks of the multinational (terror-hostage) oil companies gained.

Rogers news is lifting the whole economy!

Apr 29, 2005 - 2:31 pm 60. Fresh Air:

Buddy–

I wouldn’t waste time responding to table of contents #1. He is obviously tuned to Radio Kos and awaiting further instructions regarding new meme development.

Apr 29, 2005 - 2:37 pm 61. Buddy Larsen:

Fresh Air, yes, there’s certainly a bad signal-to-noise problem from over that way; I never can get the point. Maybe it’s just me.

Apr 29, 2005 - 2:49 pm 62. Fresh Air:

He reminds me of the famous “Five O’Clock Charlie” episode on M*A*S*H: buzzes over, nearsightedly drops his bomb and flies off to reload. See you tomorrow, Charlie!

Apr 29, 2005 - 3:14 pm 63. Buddy Larsen:

Yep! And, No Hurry!

Apr 29, 2005 - 3:29 pm 64. margcon:

It’s a terrific idea. I’m not looking for my comment to appear, just curious about the news service. It sounds a terrific idea. I am a civil servant in the Irish parliament so I must be apolitical and, in effect, part of the furniture. Would it be a nuisance if I sent an occasional piece, anonymously of course, that might be of interest or useful in a “We hear…” type column? Perhaps you could allocate a dedicated e-mail address for such pieces. You could protect it like you protect your comments to avoid nuts with loony stories. Just a thought. Love your blog. Best of luck with the venture.

Marguerite Conway, Dublin, Ireland.

Apr 29, 2005 - 3:57 pm 65. Solomon:

Marguerite,

I’m sure lots of bloggers would be willing to re-post interesting items from emailers, even now. We do that all the time. hint hint

Apr 29, 2005 - 4:05 pm 66. Charlie (Colorado):

Ed, you don’t know what the editors’ slant (if any) will be because all you know is the principals. If you read the “long tail” stuff, you’ll realize that making a long-tail enterprise work requires — demands — support and inclusion of as broad a variety of sources as possible.

You can’t sell ads targeted at cross-stitching gothgrrls if you don’t have content that attracts them.

(Dammit, thought I’d posted this this morning, came home and it was still sitting there in “preview” mode.)

Apr 29, 2005 - 4:36 pm 67. Scott Ferguson:

Hi Fresh Air,

If Roger & Co. want to create another Slate, then God bless ‘em and good luck. I don’t think the economics of that model work very well though. You have to have practically NO overhead and NOBODY on salary (except maybe an ad sales rep working on straight commission) to break even. And who’s going to actively manage the site to keep it fresh? Maybe some cashy Hollywood screenwriter with a lot of time on his hands can volunteer as an editor, but the daily grind gets old after awhile. And with so many editorial mouths to feed, the net profits divided by the effort will equal a lower hourly wage than pulling espresso drinks at Starbucks. And at Starbucks, you get benefits!

I think what these guys are aiming to do is some kind of blog collection under the aegis of one URL. Sort of a Blogspot for the “A-list” bloggers, By Invitation Only, witih a PunditDrome-like entry page. That could work. That could be designed to be low-maintenance if they’re careful. And, I think it could generate revenue, although probably not enough for any single member to live on.

Such a site would certainly be popular with the compulsive morning coffee clickers, so it might be pretty sticky, too. But it also seems to me that hubris is a pitfall. The blogosphere abhors a content vacuum. Somebody with a more hip collection of blogs will suck the clicks out over time.

I had dinner with Norman Geras recently while he was passing through NYC. What a gentleman! I love his blog, too. Very straightforward, no comments, always thoughtful. He started Normblog because as a British Marxist academic who supported the fight against totalitarian regimes in the Middle East, he didn’t feel his viewpoint was getting a hearing. Would there be a place for his blog on Roger & Co.’s Blog News Service? Who knows. But I hope he will always have a place somewhere. I cherish blogs like his.

I like Roger’s blog too. I just hope the Quest for the Big Deal doesn’t cause him to Crash and Burn. Fingers are crossed here in New Jersey.

(Roger: You can send my consulting fee via PayPal to punditdrome@yahoo.com .

Apr 29, 2005 - 5:05 pm 68. Mark Poling:

God damn, what a good idea. Good luck! There are times and places where moving the goal posts is a good thing, and it’s about time some real models came along challenging the ones that have been delivering content to the masses since WWI.

Apr 29, 2005 - 5:18 pm 69. Buddy Larsen:

Scott–I charge fifty bucks per post critique. Your post above is fine. What is your billing address?

Apr 29, 2005 - 5:24 pm 70. Scott Ferguson:

Buddy, just email it, I’ll put it in the hopper with the rest of the bills. (fyi I’m buying a house, and in NJ the closing costs are unbelievable!) –SF

Apr 29, 2005 - 5:36 pm 71. mythusmage:

Some headlines in a sidebar and I’m happy.:) I expect a few folks’ll want to visit and read the whole thing. If an essay or two makes it to the ‘front page’ (as it were), all the better.

I look at this as a clearing house. Roger and Co. are putting together a place where people can find sources of information and insight. And where advertisers have a tried and true vetting service for ad placement.

I shall provide such writings as I can; covering matters in a way aimed at making one think, and matters others are really not handling at the moment.

Which raises a question: What about community sites? I know a pair that might be interested.

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:00 pm 72. Dan:

I’ve been co-blogging very successfully with 60 – 80 other bloggers at the Blogger News Network for about two months now. Perhaps you’re familiar with BNN. From pieces I’ve done on the Pope to today’s breaking news from Georgia re Jennifer Wilbanks, the writing has been a wonderful experience for someone trained in journalism but working full-time in another field who wants to pursue journalism as a hobby.

Today alone, my work has been read by over 5,000 people, thanks mostly to Google News. There are many approaches one can take to this as an individual blogger. Two are – You can read 20 – 30 stories on a news worthy topic and blend them into one solid report – with links to all sources, of course; or you can take time to research a topic in depth, as you are not under pressure to constantly produce material to keep readership up at your venue. By the way, all our posts are also posted on our individuals blogs.

I’ve thought for some time that only an aggregated approach can turn many individual bloggers into a genuinely worthy, consistent generator of quality news. I applaud your venture and wish you much success. It will be fascinating to see how and where this blogging phenomenon, as a whole, winds up.

Good luck!

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:12 pm 73. big dirigible:

I think I see the Publisher’s Clearing House / blog ad placement thing, but where does the professional news service come in?

The only reason I’m taking this seriously is that the dreaded W isn’t involved – as several perspicacious commentators have noted already.

Apr 29, 2005 - 7:20 pm 74. KrilliX:

great idea. what about blogs in different languages? im from italy and my blog is mostly written in italian :\

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:10 am 75. Rick Ballard:

KrilliX,

Non capisco il problema. Non hai sapputo che quasi tutti gli americani sanno leggere l’italiano? Forse poche sanno scriverla, ma chi potrebbe non sa leggere la lingua piu’ bella nel mondo? Forza!

Apr 30, 2005 - 6:23 am 76. Tim Worstall:

Veeery interesting. Iím hugely interested in contributing. Iíll take the ads for my blog, of course, but what are the sorts of pieces you will be looking for? Shorts? News? Views? Research?

Apr 30, 2005 - 6:44 am 77. Rick Ballard:

Cristina,

Complimenti per il tuo blog. Ben fatto. Vedo che anche tu, oggni tanto, subisci contatti dai sinistrini nei commenti. Non vedo tante differenze tra le vostre e le nostre. Niente che un buon colpo alla nucca non remedia.

Vedo anche che il giallo della cretina Sgrena non e’ ancora finito. Sai, e’ la prima volta che ho letto del registrazione del incidente?

Condivido il dolore per la perdita di un buon uomo italiano. Calipari mi sembra un uomo intrapellato in un giuoco sporco di governo. Non cappirei mai perche si tratta coi terroristi. La risposta da qualsiasis governo dovrebbe un offerta di piombo – mai oro.

Ho aggiunto il blog al mio listino e vengo a visitarti da ora in poi.

Apr 30, 2005 - 7:03 am 78. Charlie (Colorado):

Rick —

I was going to protest the business about “most beutiful language in the world” with an argument for Hungarian, but I couldn’t even type it with a straight face.

Then I was gong to remonstrate with you for teasing Cristina by claiming most Americans read Italian, when I realized I was reading it in Italian.

The things you learn before the first cup of coffee.

Apr 30, 2005 - 8:22 am 79. Jamie Irons:

Completely OT to Charlie

In my upgrade to “Tiger” (Mac OS X v. 10.4) my upgraded Mac “Mail” program lost or destroyed a message you had sent me about a project you were working on months ago (in October, 2004, IIRC!). I really *did* plan to answer!

;-(

If you can recall what I’m referring to, and still have a copy of that query, could you resend it? (I no longer have your email address, either!)

Jamie Irons

Apr 30, 2005 - 9:26 am 80. Rick Ballard:

Charlie,

Irony, broad or narrow is never a problem to Italians. She can tell from my grammatical errors just how tenuous is my grasp of the written portion. And I screwed up ’shot to the head’ big time. Shoulda used ’spacca la testa’ which has a completely different weight.

Ciao fin domani.

Apr 30, 2005 - 9:44 am 81. Jamie Irons:

Rick

I have always thought of this as a “family blog,” and I don’t think we should be bringing “testas” into the discussion here…

Jamie Irons

Apr 30, 2005 - 9:55 am 82. brandonblog:

Thank you, this sounds GREAT!

Thanks Blackfive for letting us know about this,

Patti

Apr 30, 2005 - 9:57 am 83. KrilliX:

Rick

grazie

I’m impressed. Your italian is (almost) perfect. I thought it was a joke from some italian friend of mine… till I saw your blog.

You are my hero now! I’ll bother you often

And I’ll tell to all my friends that you speak italian. I added a link to your blog. I hope Im your first italian link!

Mandero’ una mail a roger per iscrivere la nostra aggregazione di blog (http://www.tocque-ville.it) a pjamamedia

ciao

krillix

Apr 30, 2005 - 9:57 am 84. Buddy Larsen:

I agree, ‘testas’ is inappropriate, and as for that ‘ben fatto’, that’s great for you, Rick, but what about those of us who are STILL fatto?

Apr 30, 2005 - 10:03 am 85. netcowboy:

The appeal of blogs is their personal nature.

I simply would rather read what my brother-in-law who lives in Florida has to say about the hurricanes there than check out gigantaggregablog.com.

When you take out the personal, human, and dramatic aspect of blogging, you remove the same thing that makes for a great reality television program.

Your idea is like an idea for bad reality TV. It assumes that by mashing together a lot of things that work separately that they will work together. Worse, you actually think you’ll make money by engineering this. Didn’t you learn anything from the dot com years?

Internet communication practices have to mirror how people actually communicate in status quo Meat World in order to be viable.

Your concept is too contrived.

Apr 30, 2005 - 10:14 am 86. Buddy Larsen:

That’s a good point, netcowboy, about the personal carrying intensity. The more personal, the more talented the writer (and/or important the topic) had better be. This should have a good effect overall on everyone who touches it from any direction, don’t you think? As far as compensation, if there is any, it won’t be the new web arrangements that earn it, the stock-in-trade is still the producer’s talent. As always, back to Homer. ‘Ilead’ Homer, but Marge’s husband, too. A good writer can do 500 words on oatmeal and make us love it. If the pajamas rake up a few talented amateurs who wouldn’t produce otherwise, well, all to the good. And if they fall flat on their faces, well, that’s all part of the divine comedy too.

Apr 30, 2005 - 10:51 am 87. Kit Jarrell:

Hi there. I’m very interested in joining, but my emails keep getting returned.

Any way someone can get back to me and let me know how to be a part of this?

Kit

kit.jarrell@gmail.com

Thanks!

Apr 30, 2005 - 11:13 am 88. Charlie (Colorado):

Okay, they just ran a news story that Tom Cruise is dating Katie Holmes.

Let see: Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman, Penelope Cruz, Katie Holmes…. If next year he breaks up with Katie Holmes and takes up with Natalie Portman, I’m getting into Scientology.

Apr 30, 2005 - 12:32 pm 89. Jamie Irons:

Charlie:

If next year he breaks up with Katie Holmes and takes up with Natalie Portman, I’m getting into Scientology.

You rogue!

(You do understand that L. Ron Hubbard was quite mad!?)

Jamie Irons

Apr 30, 2005 - 12:40 pm 90. Buddy Larsen:

It is said he wrote the book/developed the religion on one long amphetamine run. Stuff must do something…made Camelot (1960s version), the Turd Reich, Scientology, the Hell’s Angels. Reckon it’s “bad” for ya?

Apr 30, 2005 - 12:50 pm 91. Pamela K. Hawkins:

Hi, Roger,

I just read Frank Barnako’s article in Market Watch on this.

I would like to participate, but I do want control over the ads on my site.

How much control do I have? How much are you paying?

Pamela Hawkins

Apr 30, 2005 - 12:54 pm 92. Charlie (Colorado):

(You do understand that L. Ron Hubbard was quite mad!?)

Like a fox.

A very rich fox.

Apr 30, 2005 - 1:10 pm 93. Charlie (Colorado):

It is said he wrote the book/developed the religion on one long amphetamine run.

Nah. “Dianetics” ran for months in Astounding magazine, followed by A. E. Van Vogt and a bunch of other SF people getting involved, then some trouble about doing therapy without a license, followed by the transformation of Dianetics into Scientology the religion over some months.

(The history of Dianetics and its connection with “golden age” science fiction is practically an extentional definition of “useless knowledge”.)

Apr 30, 2005 - 1:15 pm 94. Tommy D:

RE: Pajamas Media

This all makes sense. It is an evolution that is perfectly consistent with the “Radio” model for the future of the internet/blogosphere. What is the “Radio” model. It is a theory I got from listening to NPR radio (not that I agree with NPR on any or all things considered), but I agreed with them on this one.

The theory is that the internet would evolve the way the great new medium of “radio” did in the early 1900’s. It’s a good model with high predictive value. Whenever you have a model with high predictive value, then you have the opportunity to position yourself to successfully ride the wave of the future.

When radios first started to proliferate in about the 1910’s to 1920’s, it was a very scattered and unregulated affair. Mostly, it was hobbyists that simply got a kick out of “broadcasting” to their friends and community. This was all very edgy and individualistic – and, certainly unprofessional in terms of quality of production. There were no national broadcast corporations, and, no FCC. But it was fun and spirited and raw and wild. NPR even had a great collection of “lost sounds” that were recordings of some of these home grown broadcasts. They were scratchy and unprofessional with often a hokey content, but it was cool.

Pretty soon, the better of these hobbyist started getting a loyal following. Not long there after, local businesses started paying them to run crude ads. Selling ads was, for many, just a way to finance their hobby. But, others saw a way to make a living. “Stations” with better content or a uniquely popular personality started to get some real audiences. Pretty soon they figured out that if they could reach more people, then they could charge some real money for these new “commercials”. Then, in turn, the “advertisers” started demanding more professional productions and bigger audiences. More powerful antenna’s and better production ensued.

NPR capped this analysis by answering the question, “How did the media giants of the day (newspaper publishers) respond to the challenges and opportunities of this new medium”. The fascinating answer is that virtually none of the media giants were successful in making the transition. Most simply ignored it. Others tried and failed. It was all just too much at odds with their corporate cultures.

Today, all the network and cable news have their own blog sites, however, I don’t think any of them has a real internet following the way Blackfive or Drudge or a Den Beste do, at least not in intensity. For the major network and cable news, the blogosphere is a “protect your flank” response rather than their heart and soul.

I’ve been thinking for some time now how Blackfive, Belmont Club, the Drudge Report and others would evolve. I knew that someone would figure out a way for bloggers to commercially challenge the existing media of our day. The toppling of Dan Rather is certainly evidence that the blogosphere has arrived – could commercialization be far beyond.

What does the future hold?

Unlike both radio and TV broadcasting that are limited by bandwidth, there will never be any barrier to entry for the next, cutting edge blog site. Leading bloggers who go main stream will forever have new upstart bloggers nipping at their heals. This will forever keep the blogoshere fun and spirited and raw and wild – and cool.

Long live the blogosphere!

Apr 30, 2005 - 2:04 pm 95. Jamie Irons:

Tommy D:

Very interesting comment!

Jamie Irons

Apr 30, 2005 - 2:40 pm 96. Buddy Larsen:

Charlie, in the Star Wars bazaar of the late 60s Austin,TX campus area, there were “Auditors” charging whatever you got, for “Auditing Sessions” using “Orgone Boxes” (I think a metered D-cell, reading, what, galvanic skin response?). From what I could tell, the “audited” were made to understand that all difficulties stem from childhoods spent under parental authority. Gad. The Rooskies missed their chance.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:09 pm 97. Fresh Air:

Tommy D—

The missed opportunities vis a vis radio that you cite led directly to today’s media/conglomerate model, the archetypal example of which is the Tribune Company.

The old, declining MSM would of course prefer to be a player in new media. But, having ignored the changes taking place around for too long, it faced a build-versus-buy decision a couple of years ago. Most MSMers built, but these homegrown efforts have largely failed. Were it not for ideological discomfiture and independence issues, IMO, the MSM would be headlong into consolidating blogs and traffic already.

Fortunately for all of us consumers of truth instead of “truths,” bytes are much cheaper than ink. Blogging simply doesn’t lend itself to acquisition: there is no “spectrum scarcity,” quite the reverse. And no amount of monetary muscle can drown out the voices of the Internet. Not that the MSM won’t try…

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:11 pm 98. netcowboy:

Buddy: It isn’t just the talent of a writer that makes a personal story or viewpoint compelling. In fact, oftentimes a personal story is made more compelling by the lack of “talent” or personal marketing skills that a person has. An early example of this would be Studs Terkel’s stories in his book Working.

Of course, I agree with the person who essentially said “it’s all good,” this cosmic carnival. I offer a dissenting viewpoint if only to make the progenitors of this new effort stronger in their angle/approach, and wish noone any ill, as if that were possible. We all learn from our mistakes.

But I read Glenn Reynolds because the source is Glenn Reynolds, and he carries a cool vibe, not because he’s particularly compelling or talented.

It’s the same reason people like to read what other people are eating for lunch, and it’s got nothing to do with the talent of a writer.

I submit that such a notion if of a bygone day, even as we could now replace Bach, Beethoven and Brahms with a thousand new cyberguys named Eddie. More than we can count, this abundant beautiful, personal, life where we all are the heroes of our own story, not knights of some made-up round-table-ish oligarchy. Yicch.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:16 pm 99. netcowboy:

Hey – Tell you what guys, give me a daily column where I share what I ate for lunch.

I guarantee it will be a thousand times more popular and compelling than anything else you’re planning, if only because I work in Beverly Hills where the lunches are very, very good.

Turn your nose up on an idea like that and you’ve as much as sealed your doom, because that’s the true future of the Internet my friends, reading those kinds of things about each other, and glorying in them.

The Internet is leading us to a more personal experience of each other and a more intimate connection with our own lives, not toward more editorial boards and ‘talent’, but toward more reality, honesty.

More complete and real, and less perfect.

All I’ve eaten today is sugar free pudding by the way, with a sugar free ice cream bar mashed up in it. And I had a few cups of coffee.

I had to clean the bathroom because my wife wouldn’t let me near her until that was done.

Oh, and I ranted here.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:32 pm 100. Peg C.:

Roger, this could be very exciting and I look forward to seeing the result. Great news that Wonkette won’t be involved — as someone mentioned, she is ubiquitous (and grossly overrated). I had to check Marc Cooper’s site and found him to be that rare individual: an intelligent lefty. However, for an intelligent lefty he’s annoyingly common; he lets his dogma rather than his intellect do the writing too often.

And thanks for tossing Marky, who is a parody of himself.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:33 pm 101. richard mcenroe:

According to Fred Pohl, in his bio, The Way the Future Was, at a writers’ party in 1946 Hubbard boasted, “you just watch. One day I’ll pull off a scam that will make Barnum look like a piker.”

And maybe you don’t want to know the story about Hubbard, the JPL, and Aleister Crowley…

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:37 pm 102. Peg C.:

Roger, has Melanie Phillips contacted you? She’s not an actual blogger but she’d be quite an addition (I think I may have first found out about her here!). Ditto to the Norm Geras suggestion.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:38 pm 103. Roger:

Norman Geras was one of the first in. We would love to have Melanie Phillips.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:41 pm 104. Buddy Larsen:

I want to know it, richard–got a link? Or, wouldja summarize?

Netcowboy, enjoyed every word of the rant. That theme has been bouncing around–hate to call it populism because that’s not quite the right word…but it does have to do with flattening the hero arc…no, that’s not it either. Geez, hope it’s not the Golden Rule that’s tugging us along. Hard to be noveau and biblical at the same time! But…right you are about the ‘talent’ thing…I’d used the word differently, I guess much more broadly than the trained technical show-horse meaning. For example, you mention that it’s the vibe that attracts you to instapundit–rather than any particular GReynolds writing talent. i’d say that vibe is the talent; cultivating that vibe is his talent. I have an old book containing simple letters to loved ones, from plain old private soldiers in the Civil War…no technical abilty at all, but some of the most perfect evocations of sentiment that exist in the language. Just as you say.

Apr 30, 2005 - 3:55 pm 105. netcowboy:

Thanks, Buddy.

I am always getting accused of being a populist. I suppose I am.

I genuinely believe any ten people choosing to do any particular effort will have about the same results as any other ten people charged with the same task.

Replace everyone in Congress, or everyone at the New York Times, with a few hundred randomly chosen people, and you’ll get the same stuff coming out the other end.

I cherish a story my great great grandmother wrote about her Civil War experience. Something about visiting a prison and visiting a grave. I think there was a crow in her story, or a magpie.

Didn’t mean to make this little place so full of my soapbox, I feel like I’m busting this slim column at its seams. Thanks for the reply, and again, best to all.

Now, I’m off to go scrub the kitchen counters.

Apr 30, 2005 - 4:07 pm 106. Charlie (Colorado):

Buddy, the basic story is that Jack Parsons, the first director of JPL, was also a Crowley student. See, eg, here, which interestingly makes a connection to Elrond Hubbard as well.

But you’re on the right track about the other stuff, except that it wouldnb’t have been a Star Wars bazaar in the ’60’s ’cause Star Wars came out in ‘75, and they were “D-meters”, not “Orgone Boxes”. “Orgone Boxes” were Wilhelm Reich’s concentrators of “orgone energy”, made of layers of metal and organics (like furs). Orgone was the 50’s, but they had the same amazing effects in the 50’s as pyramids in the 70’s — ie, they were supposed to make you stronger, more virile and healthier, and if you told the right people you had one it could get you laid.

Apr 30, 2005 - 6:37 pm 107. Jamie Irons:

Charlie, Charlie….

ie, they were supposed to make you stronger, more virile and healthier, and if you told the right people you had one it could get you laid.

Such cynicism, such haughty condescension, such…

Such…an astute appraisal of the actual value of these devices!

Jamie Irons

Apr 30, 2005 - 7:17 pm 108. mythusmage:

L. Ron Hubbard

The great failure of the man is not that he was mad, but that he was a plagiarist.

Apr 30, 2005 - 10:50 pm 109. Buddy Larsen:

Damn, Charlie…you must still have your Whole Earth Catalogue. I never did get my geodesic dome past the popsickle-stick/Elmer’s glue stage, alas.

Wonder who L. Ron plagiarized?

Apr 30, 2005 - 11:38 pm 110. Charlie (Colorado):

No, Buddy, I’m one of those people who have that much-overrated “talent” of a nearly-perfect memory for written or spoken material. It’s letting up a little now as I approach 50, which means I no longer confuse my friends by restarting an interrupted conversation without realizing the interruption was years ago.

Approach, hell. Hurtle toward.

By the way, Hugh Kenner’s book on geodesic math has just been republished.

May 1, 2005 - 9:00 am 111. mythusmage:

Buddy,

Who didn’t Hubbard plagiarize? H. Rider Haggard, A. Merrit, H.P. Lovecraft, Edgar Rice Burroughs. If it was published in the pulps in the 30s and 40s it went into Scientology. Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness and Merrit’s The Moon Pool had a huge impact on Scientology’s cosmology and theology.

Don’t forget Madame Blavatsky’s Theosophy, and Victorian and Edwardian occultism.

LRH was a prolific hack and knew pulp publishing like nobody’s business. Since most people today have no knowledge of the tropes and memes prevalent in pulp fiction of the time, it gives the auditors one hell of a foot up on marks. A prime example of how ignorance can hurt you.

May 1, 2005 - 2:35 pm 112. Charlie (Colorado):

“But remember, please, always to call it … research.”

May 1, 2005 - 5:07 pm 113. Buddy Larsen:

Madam Blavatsky…wow…blast from the past…she WAS an early angel of the counter-culture. Wonder if the term “counter-culture” came from “We can’t think, but by golly some of us DO know how to count!”

May 1, 2005 - 6:23 pm 114. Rosemary:

This is a good idea, Roger. Have you spoken to Waheed in Afghanistan? He has a good site in named http://afghanwarrior.blogspot.com. Thanks.

May 2, 2005 - 3:41 pm 115. big dirigible:

Jeeez, Roger, you’re doing some serious underselling on that “professional news service” concept. All I see here is the usual blog miasma – a bunch of guys blowing kisses to one another. Not interesting. Blogads aren’t interesting, either. News might be interesting, if there is any. Is there any?

May 3, 2005 - 6:33 pm 116. Jeff Einstein:

Media pioneer Jeff Einstein announces the launch of his new weblog Einstein’s Corner at http://einsteinscorner.com.

Einstein’s Corner explores the spiritual, emotional, physical, and social effects of our obsessions with and addictions to technology and media on the quality of our lives and work in The Great Age of Addiction, and is a logical extension of his weekly columns for MediaPost’s MediaDailyNews and Arcamax.com’s Parents.

May 11, 2005 - 9:47 am 117. sizepro:

I agree with you about the way you view the issue. I remember, long time ago, Jack London said something like “Everything positive has a negative side; everything negative has a positive side.” I also find it interesting to see different points of views and learn useful things in the discussion.

Posted by: Richard Hill at May 22, 2005 08:59 AM

May 22, 2005 - 5:58 pm 118. KansasMan:

I like the idea of a blog news service, I will continue to watch for this. Keep up the good work.

Jul 13, 2005 - 8:47 am 119. Peoria Pundit:

I love the idea of a blog news service and a new blog advertising service. Can I get signed up?

Aug 1, 2005 - 10:22 pm 120. Jane:

So, how’s it going? I have Blogads right now… but I’m interested in learning more about your business model. And, perhaps, interviewing you, both for Lip-sticking, one of my blogs, and… for a book I’m working on. Any chance of that??

Aug 13, 2005 - 5:05 pm 121. smtpgirl08:

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You are a person who I would like to meet.

I gave an opinion, but you turned it into a farce.

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Are you game??

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Mar 2, 2007 - 7:36 pm 126. duck:

I heard on the radio your comments regarding the President of the future being chosen by a show of hands. I disagree…

The future Presidents will be assigned to the post by a minority show of hands by the Democrats in the house and senate. A Democrat President will be seated no matter what anyone else thinks. The Democrats deserve it and they tell us that the US needs it.

Work on assigning the legislature in the same matter is under way. The main problem is that each existing member want assurance that they will not be replaced and a certain amount of jealousy is working to thwart any advancement in this better way to represent the population. Aluminum foil hats were passed out to the legislators in order to protect each member from outside influences. This is supposed to work for everything except lobbiests which it was unanimously agreed that the y should have free reign in their efforts

Jun 4, 2007 - 3:22 pm 127. simonsucks:

NOBODY CARES WHAT ROGER SIMON SAY’S, NOT EVEN ROGER SIMON

Aug 23, 2007 - 1:07 pm 128. simonsucks:

LOOK AT HOW OFTEN PEOPLE ARE READING THIS BLOG AND COMMENTING, ONE TO TWO MONTHS BETWEEN POSTINGS, ROGER SIMON IS SO LAME AND NOBODY CARES WHAT HE SAY’S, HEY ROGER GUESS WHO HAS THE MOST YOUTUBE VIEWS OF ANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE…………………………..
THATS RIGHT ROGER RON PAUL HAS 3.4 MILLION VEIWS ON YOUTUBE, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
http://techpresident.com/youtube

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