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		<title>By: Will Truth Please Stand Up</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47909</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Truth Please Stand Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from the Newsweek article I read.
Notice the media didn&#039;t make a big fuss over it did they?
I noticed that mudler on his above post also didn&#039;t reference it even though his blog was the day after this retraction came out.

Editor&#039;s Note: On May 16, Newsweek editor Mark Whitaker issued the following statement: &quot;Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Qur&#039;an abuse at Guantanamo Bay.&quot;

Fascinating!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from the Newsweek article I read.<br />
Notice the media didn&#8217;t make a big fuss over it did they?<br />
I noticed that mudler on his above post also didn&#8217;t reference it even though his blog was the day after this retraction came out.</p>
<p>Editor&#8217;s Note: On May 16, Newsweek editor Mark Whitaker issued the following statement: &#8220;Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Qur&#8217;an abuse at Guantanamo Bay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fascinating!</p>
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		<title>By: Holy Flusher</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47908</link>
		<dc:creator>Holy Flusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The act of flushing holy books is not so bad by itself. In the context of the current war where the US detains without charge or trail, sexually assaults, tortures &amp; even murders civilians including children (Haditha) and other atrocities, then the holy book incident is just something to rally around.

You can now flush holy books yourself at &lt;a href=&quot;http://flushaholybook.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;flushaholybook.com&lt;/a&gt;
Take your pick of the major religions and flush it down.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The act of flushing holy books is not so bad by itself. In the context of the current war where the US detains without charge or trail, sexually assaults, tortures &amp; even murders civilians including children (Haditha) and other atrocities, then the holy book incident is just something to rally around.</p>
<p>You can now flush holy books yourself at <a href="http://flushaholybook.com" rel="nofollow">flushaholybook.com</a><br />
Take your pick of the major religions and flush it down.</p>
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		<title>By: mudler</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47907</link>
		<dc:creator>mudler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 14:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before your go on your attack for the right-wing agenda, get it right.

There has been multiple reports on the tactic of &quot;flushing the Koran

down the toliet&quot;, if you guys ever did research beyond the &quot;talking

points&quot; you would find find the truth. Don&#039;t be afraid of the truth it

will set you free from the brainwashing you have received. from the

philly inquirer,

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/10685611.htm

&quot;Some detainees complained of religious humiliation, saying guards had

defaced their copies of the Koran and, in one case, had thrown it in a

toilet, said Kristine Huskey [an attorney in Washington, D.C.], who

interviewed clients late last month. Others said that pills were hidden

in their food and that people came to their cells claiming to be their

attorneys, to gain information.&quot;



and from the Human Rights Watch

Report, http://hrw.org/backgrounder/usa/gitmo1004/gitmo1004.pdf



&quot;72.They were never given prayer mats and initially they didn&#039;t get a

Koran. When the Korans were provided, they were kicked and thrown about

by the guards and on occasion thrown in the buckets used for the

toilets. This kept happening. When it happened it was always said to be

an accident but it was a recurrent theme.&quot;



and



&quot;74. Asif says that `it was impossible to pray because initially we did

not know the direction to pray, but also given that we couldn&#039;t move and

the harassment from the guards, it was simply not feasible. The

behaviour of the guards towards our religious practices as well as the

Koran was also, in my view, designed to cause us as much distress as

possible. They would kick the Koran, throw it into the toilet and

generally disrespect it. It is clear to me that the conditions in our

cells and our general treatment were designed by the officers in charge

of the interrogation process to &quot;soften us up&quot;&#039;.&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before your go on your attack for the right-wing agenda, get it right.</p>
<p>There has been multiple reports on the tactic of &#8220;flushing the Koran</p>
<p>down the toliet&#8221;, if you guys ever did research beyond the &#8220;talking</p>
<p>points&#8221; you would find find the truth. Don&#8217;t be afraid of the truth it</p>
<p>will set you free from the brainwashing you have received. from the</p>
<p>philly inquirer,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/10685611.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/10685611.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Some detainees complained of religious humiliation, saying guards had</p>
<p>defaced their copies of the Koran and, in one case, had thrown it in a</p>
<p>toilet, said Kristine Huskey [an attorney in Washington, D.C.], who</p>
<p>interviewed clients late last month. Others said that pills were hidden</p>
<p>in their food and that people came to their cells claiming to be their</p>
<p>attorneys, to gain information.&#8221;</p>
<p>and from the Human Rights Watch</p>
<p>Report, <a href="http://hrw.org/backgrounder/usa/gitmo1004/gitmo1004.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://hrw.org/backgrounder/usa/gitmo1004/gitmo1004.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;72.They were never given prayer mats and initially they didn&#8217;t get a</p>
<p>Koran. When the Korans were provided, they were kicked and thrown about</p>
<p>by the guards and on occasion thrown in the buckets used for the</p>
<p>toilets. This kept happening. When it happened it was always said to be</p>
<p>an accident but it was a recurrent theme.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;74. Asif says that `it was impossible to pray because initially we did</p>
<p>not know the direction to pray, but also given that we couldn&#8217;t move and</p>
<p>the harassment from the guards, it was simply not feasible. The</p>
<p>behaviour of the guards towards our religious practices as well as the</p>
<p>Koran was also, in my view, designed to cause us as much distress as</p>
<p>possible. They would kick the Koran, throw it into the toilet and</p>
<p>generally disrespect it. It is clear to me that the conditions in our</p>
<p>cells and our general treatment were designed by the officers in charge</p>
<p>of the interrogation process to &#8220;soften us up&#8221;&#8216;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Sanity Inspector</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47906</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sanity Inspector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m like Lileks in this regard:  For me, the newsweeklies are Playboy in reverse--I only look at them for the pictures.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m like Lileks in this regard:  For me, the newsweeklies are Playboy in reverse&#8211;I only look at them for the pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Skolaut</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47905</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Skolaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 20:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;who would want these deaths on their conscience?&quot;



C&#039;mon, Roger, you&#039;re not that naive.



These clowns don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; a conscience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;who would want these deaths on their conscience?&#8221;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, Roger, you&#8217;re not that naive.</p>
<p>These clowns don&#8217;t <i>have</i> a conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: OJ</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/11/299-words-from-newsweek/#comment-47904</link>
		<dc:creator>OJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 14:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



This is an interesting coincidence. Although on in a much broader scope, we yesterday questioned what skewed liberal media coverage does to National Security. Completely unrelated to the situation in Afghanistan, the media is perhaps impacting the security of the United States. Just like you can&#039;t yell &#039;fire&#039; in a crowded theater for fun...



http://www.rightviews.com/article.php?id=307



It does warrant discussion.



www.RightViews.com


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>This is an interesting coincidence. Although on in a much broader scope, we yesterday questioned what skewed liberal media coverage does to National Security. Completely unrelated to the situation in Afghanistan, the media is perhaps impacting the security of the United States. Just like you can&#8217;t yell &#8216;fire&#8217; in a crowded theater for fun&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rightviews.com/article.php?id=307" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightviews.com/article.php?id=307</a></p>
<p>It does warrant discussion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.RightViews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.RightViews.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Snippet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snippet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 12:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Sammy Small.



There have been so many unanswered &quot;provocations&quot; against Christians that a guy can hardly keep track of them all.



Muslims are simply expected to act like violent children, and when they do, the sensitivity policy go on a manhunt for whoever &quot;caused&quot; the latest Islamic riot/terrorist attack/war/murder/assassination.



Meanwhile, when Christians verbally complain about deliberate assaults on their beliefs, they are referred to as extremists, or theocrats, or, and I just LOVE this, &quot;jihadis.&quot;



All from people who almost never are able to muster any real condemnation for real jihadis.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Sammy Small.</p>
<p>There have been so many unanswered &#8220;provocations&#8221; against Christians that a guy can hardly keep track of them all.</p>
<p>Muslims are simply expected to act like violent children, and when they do, the sensitivity policy go on a manhunt for whoever &#8220;caused&#8221; the latest Islamic riot/terrorist attack/war/murder/assassination.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, when Christians verbally complain about deliberate assaults on their beliefs, they are referred to as extremists, or theocrats, or, and I just LOVE this, &#8220;jihadis.&#8221;</p>
<p>All from people who almost never are able to muster any real condemnation for real jihadis.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syl,



You may not care if it is true of false, but I do. If Newsweek is spreading unproved rumors, then they are responsible for the consequences. It&#039;s the old fire in the theater thing. Now, if these &#039;facts&#039; are simply part of a plaintiff&#039;s case that has not been settled, then they are simply rumors. I personally found many of the things reported by the released Brits rather lurid and bizarre. I no longer remember the details, but they were reported in the English press. However, we really aren&#039;t in a position to judge the Newsweek article because the source is anonymous. That is just unacceptable.



Bye the bye, did I ever mention that my kindergarten teacher was worried about my mental health because I was always asking her if things were true? I suspect she was very &quot;progressive&quot; for her time and attached great value to imaginary things.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syl,</p>
<p>You may not care if it is true of false, but I do. If Newsweek is spreading unproved rumors, then they are responsible for the consequences. It&#8217;s the old fire in the theater thing. Now, if these &#8216;facts&#8217; are simply part of a plaintiff&#8217;s case that has not been settled, then they are simply rumors. I personally found many of the things reported by the released Brits rather lurid and bizarre. I no longer remember the details, but they were reported in the English press. However, we really aren&#8217;t in a position to judge the Newsweek article because the source is anonymous. That is just unacceptable.</p>
<p>Bye the bye, did I ever mention that my kindergarten teacher was worried about my mental health because I was always asking her if things were true? I suspect she was very &#8220;progressive&#8221; for her time and attached great value to imaginary things.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyda Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyda Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CCR is also a plantiff&#039;s attorney in the Caterpillar suit, the busy little bees.



If, however, the Gitmo lawsuit is the source material for the &lt;i&gt;Newsweek&lt;/i&gt; piece, wouldn&#039;t they say so instead of attributing to &quot;sources&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCR is also a plantiff&#8217;s attorney in the Caterpillar suit, the busy little bees.</p>
<p>If, however, the Gitmo lawsuit is the source material for the <i>Newsweek</i> piece, wouldn&#8217;t they say so instead of attributing to &#8220;sources&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think (but I don&#039;t know) that it may be true. That does NOT mean that I disagree with the action or am in any way outraged by it. In fact I&#039;m not.



We&#039;re getting too caught up in the It&#039;s True, no It&#039;s False thing here with the assumption that if it&#039;s true, well, it&#039;s a bad thing.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (but I don&#8217;t know) that it may be true. That does NOT mean that I disagree with the action or am in any way outraged by it. In fact I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting too caught up in the It&#8217;s True, no It&#8217;s False thing here with the assumption that if it&#8217;s true, well, it&#8217;s a bad thing.</p>
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