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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/17/volcker-versus-parton/#comment-48725</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 04:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter:



Hello. Well maybe there is more to this than we know. I did hear that labor wants a recall because they think he cheated on the election. surprise surprise.





We can not even fire a pretend Indian college professor that calls 911 victims little Eichmans much less tell a British MP to fuck off. But man would I like to.



I saw it, and I know that people&#039;s perceptions are different but he seemed a bit crazed and I think most people thought he was crazy. I heard one man say he reminded him of a cornered pit bull.



It is human nature to want to smack a guy like that upside the head though. I think the propaganda value was balanced out by the sheer lunacy of the man.



The odd thing is most people just do not seem to care or even remember what he said. I guess it is getting old and they have heard it all before.



I just do not understand how anyone can pay any attention to a man who mourns the loss of the Soviet Union and was all cuddly with a dictator like Saddam. I mean I know that everyone was dealing with Saddam early on when the Ayatollah was threatening to destroy the world but eventually it became apparent he was not just your ordinary dictator. And the US and the UK backed off. but not Galloway.



But they are all going to do this. accuse the accuser. That is how and why people like this get away with the things they do. Just make outrageous claims and scream alot.



But Rick was right about Henry Hyde in the House, he is on this too and that old boy is smart.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:</p>
<p>Hello. Well maybe there is more to this than we know. I did hear that labor wants a recall because they think he cheated on the election. surprise surprise.</p>
<p>We can not even fire a pretend Indian college professor that calls 911 victims little Eichmans much less tell a British MP to fuck off. But man would I like to.</p>
<p>I saw it, and I know that people&#8217;s perceptions are different but he seemed a bit crazed and I think most people thought he was crazy. I heard one man say he reminded him of a cornered pit bull.</p>
<p>It is human nature to want to smack a guy like that upside the head though. I think the propaganda value was balanced out by the sheer lunacy of the man.</p>
<p>The odd thing is most people just do not seem to care or even remember what he said. I guess it is getting old and they have heard it all before.</p>
<p>I just do not understand how anyone can pay any attention to a man who mourns the loss of the Soviet Union and was all cuddly with a dictator like Saddam. I mean I know that everyone was dealing with Saddam early on when the Ayatollah was threatening to destroy the world but eventually it became apparent he was not just your ordinary dictator. And the US and the UK backed off. but not Galloway.</p>
<p>But they are all going to do this. accuse the accuser. That is how and why people like this get away with the things they do. Just make outrageous claims and scream alot.</p>
<p>But Rick was right about Henry Hyde in the House, he is on this too and that old boy is smart.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/17/volcker-versus-parton/#comment-48724</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,

I mentioned that in response to Yama.

My view is that he should not have been called,he is a small fry in the Oil For Food scam,but a major player in the propaganda stakes.What stops the Galloways of this world dead in their tracks is ignoring them. An opportunist is lost without an opportunity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>I mentioned that in response to Yama.</p>
<p>My view is that he should not have been called,he is a small fry in the Oil For Food scam,but a major player in the propaganda stakes.What stops the Galloways of this world dead in their tracks is ignoring them. An opportunist is lost without an opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/17/volcker-versus-parton/#comment-48723</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 21:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys this thread is probably dead but Galloway was not invited to a debate.



Many of you are acting as if he was.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys this thread is probably dead but Galloway was not invited to a debate.</p>
<p>Many of you are acting as if he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter:



I certainly do not despise Britain but I think that the point was to get Galloway to perjure himself. The alternative was to scream about how if the French can sell arms to Saddam so can we and he was just as wrong about the weapons as we were blah blah blah.



I am saying down that road lies madness.



Or the Senate could do a miniseries starring Galloway and a thousand witnesses to refute him at the end of which he would have jsut called them all imperialists scum and flounced off into the sunset.



As I said to wow the left and look like hot stuff on TV all he had to do was be defiant and he was.



Maybe we should have let him off the hook so as to avoid the scene. but I just don&#039;t think that is right.



I honestly do not know what people expect someone like Coleman to do.



I was born during the Korean war and I was a small child when Kruschev pounded his shoe on a podium and promised to bury us. The reaction was much the same and look how that turned out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:</p>
<p>I certainly do not despise Britain but I think that the point was to get Galloway to perjure himself. The alternative was to scream about how if the French can sell arms to Saddam so can we and he was just as wrong about the weapons as we were blah blah blah.</p>
<p>I am saying down that road lies madness.</p>
<p>Or the Senate could do a miniseries starring Galloway and a thousand witnesses to refute him at the end of which he would have jsut called them all imperialists scum and flounced off into the sunset.</p>
<p>As I said to wow the left and look like hot stuff on TV all he had to do was be defiant and he was.</p>
<p>Maybe we should have let him off the hook so as to avoid the scene. but I just don&#8217;t think that is right.</p>
<p>I honestly do not know what people expect someone like Coleman to do.</p>
<p>I was born during the Korean war and I was a small child when Kruschev pounded his shoe on a podium and promised to bury us. The reaction was much the same and look how that turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: Canucklehead</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/05/17/volcker-versus-parton/#comment-48721</link>
		<dc:creator>Canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick and PeterUK, I don&#039;t get your tact on the value in Galloway&#039;s testimony.  Like it or not, Galloway is a &quot;window&quot; to the British soul.  There was a time when British opinion was world opinion.  Then came the time when British opinion moved world opinion.  Now, British opinion is simply part of world opinion.



We are at the tipping point to discern whether British opinion is worthy of consideration.  Galloway packs a great deal of &quot;punch&quot; inside Britain.  Outside of Britain, who cares?  The game has been started and will be played out inside Britain, by Britains.



Norm Coleman has charted his course and will continue with his good work.  His actions will leave eddy currents of analysts in his wake.  (You can go round and round all you like but in the end you simply dissipate at the spot you where you presently are.)



The simple fact is that Galloway has reached all those who would be &quot;charmed&quot; by his message.  His role is simply to separate the wheat from the chaff.  You don&#039;t prosper eating only chaff.



Galloway can be used for good works, whether he likes it or not.  He has been put in play.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick and PeterUK, I don&#8217;t get your tact on the value in Galloway&#8217;s testimony.  Like it or not, Galloway is a &#8220;window&#8221; to the British soul.  There was a time when British opinion was world opinion.  Then came the time when British opinion moved world opinion.  Now, British opinion is simply part of world opinion.</p>
<p>We are at the tipping point to discern whether British opinion is worthy of consideration.  Galloway packs a great deal of &#8220;punch&#8221; inside Britain.  Outside of Britain, who cares?  The game has been started and will be played out inside Britain, by Britains.</p>
<p>Norm Coleman has charted his course and will continue with his good work.  His actions will leave eddy currents of analysts in his wake.  (You can go round and round all you like but in the end you simply dissipate at the spot you where you presently are.)</p>
<p>The simple fact is that Galloway has reached all those who would be &#8220;charmed&#8221; by his message.  His role is simply to separate the wheat from the chaff.  You don&#8217;t prosper eating only chaff.</p>
<p>Galloway can be used for good works, whether he likes it or not.  He has been put in play.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 11:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yama Arashi,

No one is spooked by Galloway,but having read the transcripts,which will be used again and again as a primary source,I come to a different conclusion of how it appears to the observer.

The first impression is that Galloway was given an easy ride,second that the Panel was a damp squib and thirdly Galloway was allowed to create a precedent by attacking the legitimacy of the questioners and the US,a tactic that will not be lost on those subsequentlt questioned.

I agree,with Rick Ballard the whole thing was turned into a three ringed circus,nothing of value was elicited from Galloway.

It is foolish to disregard the effect that this had on boosting the left whose belief system was reinforced by this.You might sneer at the left but they are still a potent force,why give another hostage to fortune.

By the way you have just witnessed Saddam Husseins defence writ small,US legitimacy will be in question and oddly this chimes with many in those little islands and backwater continents that you despise.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yama Arashi,</p>
<p>No one is spooked by Galloway,but having read the transcripts,which will be used again and again as a primary source,I come to a different conclusion of how it appears to the observer.</p>
<p>The first impression is that Galloway was given an easy ride,second that the Panel was a damp squib and thirdly Galloway was allowed to create a precedent by attacking the legitimacy of the questioners and the US,a tactic that will not be lost on those subsequentlt questioned.</p>
<p>I agree,with Rick Ballard the whole thing was turned into a three ringed circus,nothing of value was elicited from Galloway.</p>
<p>It is foolish to disregard the effect that this had on boosting the left whose belief system was reinforced by this.You might sneer at the left but they are still a potent force,why give another hostage to fortune.</p>
<p>By the way you have just witnessed Saddam Husseins defence writ small,US legitimacy will be in question and oddly this chimes with many in those little islands and backwater continents that you despise.</p>
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		<title>By: yama-arashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>yama-arashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 05:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,



We obviously don&#039;t agree.



The hearings will continue. I hope the stuff you mention also comes out. If it doesn&#039;t come out in the way you seem to have scripted it, I won&#039;t be overly disappointed. I guess my expectations for the Senate aren&#039;t as high as yours, and I&#039;ll take what I can get. I&#039;m not so quick to slam Coleman down nor think Levin is so agile. To your question. Yes proving a small fish a liar is worthy of the Senate. Especially if, in the end, all those fawning over him now  have to have another Newsweek, Rathergate moment. Chris Matthews set himself up for a fall yesterday. Rush will have a great time with it.  Even if it doesn&#039;t turn out that way, no harm done. And especially if it is part of an emerging, larger picture, yes small fish, big fish, seaweed, bring them/it all in.  If  Galloway didn&#039;t come, was denied an appearance,  he could use that just as much to demagogue his point. Perhaps more. I have no problem having my &quot;suspect&quot; sneer and bluster. I&#039;m only interested in the last laugh. I can now run a long line of witnesses against him and he can&#039;t do anything about it. No cross-examining here. Heck, I&#039;d fly Azziz on over and let him have a night out on the town, and possibly a guarantee he can keep his head, for the right testimony. But I doubt that is  necessary. Fundamentally, I guess my take on Galloway&#039;s testimony was a bit different than yours. He seemed to me like a desperate man playing a desperate hand. Those who are charmed by him I consider to be in the same boat. He confirmed everything I thought about oil for food and I saw his appearance in Washington, he can&#039;t go to Baghdad anymore now can he, a positive sign of how well everything has progressed. Anyway, we&#039;ll agree to disagree on this one.



Glad you seem to be over your illness, and back in fighting form. Have a good night.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>We obviously don&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>The hearings will continue. I hope the stuff you mention also comes out. If it doesn&#8217;t come out in the way you seem to have scripted it, I won&#8217;t be overly disappointed. I guess my expectations for the Senate aren&#8217;t as high as yours, and I&#8217;ll take what I can get. I&#8217;m not so quick to slam Coleman down nor think Levin is so agile. To your question. Yes proving a small fish a liar is worthy of the Senate. Especially if, in the end, all those fawning over him now  have to have another Newsweek, Rathergate moment. Chris Matthews set himself up for a fall yesterday. Rush will have a great time with it.  Even if it doesn&#8217;t turn out that way, no harm done. And especially if it is part of an emerging, larger picture, yes small fish, big fish, seaweed, bring them/it all in.  If  Galloway didn&#8217;t come, was denied an appearance,  he could use that just as much to demagogue his point. Perhaps more. I have no problem having my &#8220;suspect&#8221; sneer and bluster. I&#8217;m only interested in the last laugh. I can now run a long line of witnesses against him and he can&#8217;t do anything about it. No cross-examining here. Heck, I&#8217;d fly Azziz on over and let him have a night out on the town, and possibly a guarantee he can keep his head, for the right testimony. But I doubt that is  necessary. Fundamentally, I guess my take on Galloway&#8217;s testimony was a bit different than yours. He seemed to me like a desperate man playing a desperate hand. Those who are charmed by him I consider to be in the same boat. He confirmed everything I thought about oil for food and I saw his appearance in Washington, he can&#8217;t go to Baghdad anymore now can he, a positive sign of how well everything has progressed. Anyway, we&#8217;ll agree to disagree on this one.</p>
<p>Glad you seem to be over your illness, and back in fighting form. Have a good night.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;a fringe MP with no power base living in a a small island off the coast of France.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;



Is proving this small a fish a liar worthy of the Senate? Pasqua, Strong, assorted Russians, flowcharts of fund transfers with dates of deVillepins obstructionist speeches - that&#039;s what Senate hearings are for. Not face time on TV while your &quot;suspect&quot; laughs at you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;a fringe MP with no power base living in a a small island off the coast of France.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Is proving this small a fish a liar worthy of the Senate? Pasqua, Strong, assorted Russians, flowcharts of fund transfers with dates of deVillepins obstructionist speeches &#8211; that&#8217;s what Senate hearings are for. Not face time on TV while your &#8220;suspect&#8221; laughs at you.</p>
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		<title>By: yama-arashi</title>
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		<dc:creator>yama-arashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 04:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,



We&#039;ll see what Coleman had on him. Judging by Levin&#039;s questions as well, I&#039;m optimistic. Having a witness perjure himself is not bad. Having it on tape, priceless. Engaging in any kind of give and take with the witness a moment Coleman wisely avoided. Got it over quick and early on in the investigation. I think it was well done. Can&#039;t wait till Hitchens fires away at him for a few months on end. Old Trotskyite versus Lenin-Stalinist battles always a pleasure to watch.



Though your point about Britain is well taken. Now Muslims with regards to Galloway have a stark decision to make. I like the lack of gray.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see what Coleman had on him. Judging by Levin&#8217;s questions as well, I&#8217;m optimistic. Having a witness perjure himself is not bad. Having it on tape, priceless. Engaging in any kind of give and take with the witness a moment Coleman wisely avoided. Got it over quick and early on in the investigation. I think it was well done. Can&#8217;t wait till Hitchens fires away at him for a few months on end. Old Trotskyite versus Lenin-Stalinist battles always a pleasure to watch.</p>
<p>Though your point about Britain is well taken. Now Muslims with regards to Galloway have a stark decision to make. I like the lack of gray.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yama,



An A league pol turns an ethics investigation around and starts with McDermott while making sure that Pelosi and the press shut up by waving her dirty slip around a little bit. The Reps have Mitch McConnell in the Senate as an A leaguer. Most of the rest of them are trying to figure out how to get invited to New Hampshire to judge beauty contests. Fortunately the Dems are in even worse shape.



Hastert and McConnell can handle the action as long as prima donnas keep the spectacularly dumb plays - like calling Galloway - to a minimum.



If Coleman were one of the sharper pencils, he&#039;d block the UN building renovation loan and demand that the GSA hire the architect and manage construction in return for making the loan at all. That would be a hard ball move. Calling Galloway was a &#039;Where Are the Clowns&#039; moment in Senate history. I&#039;m not concerned about Galloway&#039;s lasting effect here at all. Britain is another matter. British Muslims don&#039;t need this type as their champion in Commons.



Terrye,



Levin is the scorpion who stings the turtle that&#039;s carrying him across the creek. He&#039;s a sharp player and a total partisan. Coleman just got to play turtle this time. If he does it again, why then, he&#039;s a fool. If he&#039;s as smart as touted he shouldn&#039;t need to be told about Levin because Levin has never been other than a scorpion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yama,</p>
<p>An A league pol turns an ethics investigation around and starts with McDermott while making sure that Pelosi and the press shut up by waving her dirty slip around a little bit. The Reps have Mitch McConnell in the Senate as an A leaguer. Most of the rest of them are trying to figure out how to get invited to New Hampshire to judge beauty contests. Fortunately the Dems are in even worse shape.</p>
<p>Hastert and McConnell can handle the action as long as prima donnas keep the spectacularly dumb plays &#8211; like calling Galloway &#8211; to a minimum.</p>
<p>If Coleman were one of the sharper pencils, he&#8217;d block the UN building renovation loan and demand that the GSA hire the architect and manage construction in return for making the loan at all. That would be a hard ball move. Calling Galloway was a &#8216;Where Are the Clowns&#8217; moment in Senate history. I&#8217;m not concerned about Galloway&#8217;s lasting effect here at all. Britain is another matter. British Muslims don&#8217;t need this type as their champion in Commons.</p>
<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>Levin is the scorpion who stings the turtle that&#8217;s carrying him across the creek. He&#8217;s a sharp player and a total partisan. Coleman just got to play turtle this time. If he does it again, why then, he&#8217;s a fool. If he&#8217;s as smart as touted he shouldn&#8217;t need to be told about Levin because Levin has never been other than a scorpion.</p>
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