He’d spend too much time being called to the Judges bench,still you could visit him whilst he was doing thirty days for contempt.

I have seen the “sweetness and light” tactic before but there is always a kicker,”Of course I agree with what you say,but don’t you think”.Seen this one before somewhere.

There is a program for analysing original manuscripts,which picks up on stylistic patterns and commonly used words,I’ll see if I can scrounge one.

That brings us back to cognitive dissonance and sedition. There appears to be some question as to whether motive and/or intent has to pertain in order use the word correctly. I would argue that because the net effect will result in homicide, motive is immaterial. It is the result that creates the necessity of the usage and all the cognitive dissonance in the world cannot relieve the offender from the responsibility.

Unintentional homicides occur regularly and those making the errors that cause them are held responsible. There has to be a level of accountability concerning the deaths caused by sedition and naming those who practice it seems a rather minimal effort toward that end.

PeterUK, you clarified completely.

Rick, you’re spot on but as Steven pointed out, The ‘Nator was civil if nothing else and gets points for that. At least he took the effort to practice – so few do. Most just splat and run.

All in all a good get-together. Some new folks… HA, Penwil, Ambi, FA, and Catherine all dropped in. No doubt I’m missing a few. Stubborn cusses like Buddy and me got to gnaw the soup bone for all it was worth. Fun on a rainy day, who could ask for anything more.

I love the trail of logic bushinator uses. He uses the word only and that is the idea he was putting forward. He is then informed that no, multiple reasons were given. Yes, WMD was emphasised, no one here denies that. But thats not good enough. The ABB myth must have the “only” lie justified. So he admits that only is wrong, but not really. since apparently the other reasons were only told in speechs to republicans only(how did Bush pack the UN with republicans only and keep the broadcast away from Democrats?), that means only is proper to use. He states a fact. The fact is proved to be a lie with a paper trail. He ignores the paper trail and claims that the other reasons that were recorded and printed didn’t resonate with him so they do not excist. If I ever kill someone and it is caught on tape I want this guy for my defense lawyer. Anyone who can spin such drivel with such conviction just might get me an aquittal

If one has billions one can buy weapons and influence,Saddam had the motive,the means, all he was waiting for is an opportunity.

“There should be a Godwin’s law regarding bringing up WMD.”

Absolutely Not! Bite your tongue. How do you think conservatives got all the real liberals like Zell over to our side in the first place?

The best reason to be a first admendment absolutist is not to protect the speech of those with something good to say but those without. The more they talk, the better.