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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce:



As much as I would like to present the image of a covert man with my moles spread all over the world feeding me info on the red line the answer is far more mundane. I was reading and as usual had the radio on in the backround. Hugh Hewitt flashed the news(you know, that non-MSM news that is always a step behind their smarter and J-school trained superiors) and began talking to people familar to the area. I went inside and checked CNN and Fox and it was 20 to 30 minutes before either one said a word about it.Once again the non-traditional media was ahead of the old stlye media. Maybe those old boys should try out that cat food thing.



Kevin Peters


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce:</p>
<p>As much as I would like to present the image of a covert man with my moles spread all over the world feeding me info on the red line the answer is far more mundane. I was reading and as usual had the radio on in the backround. Hugh Hewitt flashed the news(you know, that non-MSM news that is always a step behind their smarter and J-school trained superiors) and began talking to people familar to the area. I went inside and checked CNN and Fox and it was 20 to 30 minutes before either one said a word about it.Once again the non-traditional media was ahead of the old stlye media. Maybe those old boys should try out that cat food thing.</p>
<p>Kevin Peters</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Wechsler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Re: Attacks in Sharm El Sheikh



Kevin, is there something about your real profession that you can&#039;t tell us?



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From Kevin P. at 4:48 P.M. yesterday:



Roger:

&quot;Whats Next?&quot; Eygpt.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Attacks in Sharm El Sheikh</p>
<p>Kevin, is there something about your real profession that you can&#8217;t tell us?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>From Kevin P. at 4:48 P.M. yesterday:</p>
<p>Roger:</p>
<p>&#8220;Whats Next?&#8221; Eygpt.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There i s no upper limit to the provocation that the RoP will find and there is no lower limit to how far we will have to abase ourselves.Once this is realise the rest is simple.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There i s no upper limit to the provocation that the RoP will find and there is no lower limit to how far we will have to abase ourselves.Once this is realise the rest is simple.</p>
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		<title>By: kcom</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/07/22/whats-next/#comment-59849</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Driving home from donating blood (actually platelets) at the Red Cross I heard the news on the radio regarding the bombings in Egypt.  I found myself for the first time in this whole sequence of events of the last four years just shouting out loud &quot;F___ you!&quot; over and over.



Partly it was directed at the losers who decided to wantonly take yet more human life but more of it was directed at the morons on our side who still can&#039;t see we&#039;re in a f___ing war.  Why can&#039;t they get it?  It&#039;s not about Iraq or Afghanistan or any particular policy.  It&#039;s a freakin&#039; war.



Someone needs to slap them repeatedly until they wake up.  Caving in to terrorists, withdrawing from Iraq and leaving the people there to be enslaved again, doing anything that would give the terrorists hope or encouragement is a grave and potentially mortal mistake.  As Al-Qaeda adds more and more countries to its attack list how can anyone pretend it&#039;s about Iraq.  Try telling the dead people from 9/11 it was all about Iraq even though Iraq hadn&#039;t happened yet.  Try telling the people in southern Thailand getting bombed out of their homes that somehow it&#039;s all because of Iraq.



What it&#039;s about is an insane and voracious ideology of backwardness and inhumanity that&#039;s completely antithetical to almost all the values we - whether we&#039;re Republicans, Democrats, Labourites, Tories, or any other person who really believes in democracy - hold dear.  If you don&#039;t think an ideology like that is worth standing up against then I would feel pity for you if what you were doing wasn&#039;t so dangerous.  Instead I&#039;m feeling something closer to contempt.



One of those British muslim leaders is quoted as saying that if the UK would withdraw from Iraq the threat of terrorism would go down to practically zero.  Again I ask, what of 9/11, what of Bali, what of the first attack on the World Trade Center, what of all the other outrages that predated Iraq?  Has he been asleep the last 15 years?  In my mind, withdrawing from Iraq might reduce the risk of terrorism an incremental amount.  But I don&#039;t find comfort in a risk that&#039;s reduced from 98% to 96%, especially at the expense of the enslavement of 25 million people who deserve much better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driving home from donating blood (actually platelets) at the Red Cross I heard the news on the radio regarding the bombings in Egypt.  I found myself for the first time in this whole sequence of events of the last four years just shouting out loud &#8220;F___ you!&#8221; over and over.</p>
<p>Partly it was directed at the losers who decided to wantonly take yet more human life but more of it was directed at the morons on our side who still can&#8217;t see we&#8217;re in a f___ing war.  Why can&#8217;t they get it?  It&#8217;s not about Iraq or Afghanistan or any particular policy.  It&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; war.</p>
<p>Someone needs to slap them repeatedly until they wake up.  Caving in to terrorists, withdrawing from Iraq and leaving the people there to be enslaved again, doing anything that would give the terrorists hope or encouragement is a grave and potentially mortal mistake.  As Al-Qaeda adds more and more countries to its attack list how can anyone pretend it&#8217;s about Iraq.  Try telling the dead people from 9/11 it was all about Iraq even though Iraq hadn&#8217;t happened yet.  Try telling the people in southern Thailand getting bombed out of their homes that somehow it&#8217;s all because of Iraq.</p>
<p>What it&#8217;s about is an insane and voracious ideology of backwardness and inhumanity that&#8217;s completely antithetical to almost all the values we &#8211; whether we&#8217;re Republicans, Democrats, Labourites, Tories, or any other person who really believes in democracy &#8211; hold dear.  If you don&#8217;t think an ideology like that is worth standing up against then I would feel pity for you if what you were doing wasn&#8217;t so dangerous.  Instead I&#8217;m feeling something closer to contempt.</p>
<p>One of those British muslim leaders is quoted as saying that if the UK would withdraw from Iraq the threat of terrorism would go down to practically zero.  Again I ask, what of 9/11, what of Bali, what of the first attack on the World Trade Center, what of all the other outrages that predated Iraq?  Has he been asleep the last 15 years?  In my mind, withdrawing from Iraq might reduce the risk of terrorism an incremental amount.  But I don&#8217;t find comfort in a risk that&#8217;s reduced from 98% to 96%, especially at the expense of the enslavement of 25 million people who deserve much better.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They only shot him five times?  Hell, in Los Angeles, we&#039;d call them meter maids...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only shot him five times?  Hell, in Los Angeles, we&#8217;d call them meter maids&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger;



by the way the bombs had already gone off and i had heard about them before I wrote dowb egypt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger;</p>
<p>by the way the bombs had already gone off and i had heard about them before I wrote dowb egypt.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:



There is always a reason given for acts that are just below any notion of civilzed behaviour.Even when discussing forms of war. If one &quot;root cause&quot; is eliminated another is substituted for it.



I have always believed that the settlements in Israel were a huge mistake and Israel has payed dearly for them. I am not from the Israel is perfect and never make mistakes school. And of course whenever the conflict is discussed the root cause mentioned the most is the Settlements. But what was the attitude and stated goal of 95% of the middle East governments towards Israel before the settlements/ The total destruction of Israel.



Another &#039;root cause that is mentioned is the areas taken after the 1967 war. But what was the stated goal of the Middle east before the 1967 war towards Israel? Her total destruction. The other day in the LAT there was an article taken from the Guardian regarding Israel. &quot;Sharon&#039;s provacative withdrawl from Gaza&#039; was actually written down. What? This of course was one of the &quot;root causes&quot; and now withdrawl from Gaza is considered provacative. The goal posts keep changing. If anyone thinks withdrawl from Iraq will solve anything and stop the terrorist bombings they just have not been paying attention.



Kevin Peters
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:</p>
<p>There is always a reason given for acts that are just below any notion of civilzed behaviour.Even when discussing forms of war. If one &#8220;root cause&#8221; is eliminated another is substituted for it.</p>
<p>I have always believed that the settlements in Israel were a huge mistake and Israel has payed dearly for them. I am not from the Israel is perfect and never make mistakes school. And of course whenever the conflict is discussed the root cause mentioned the most is the Settlements. But what was the attitude and stated goal of 95% of the middle East governments towards Israel before the settlements/ The total destruction of Israel.</p>
<p>Another &#8216;root cause that is mentioned is the areas taken after the 1967 war. But what was the stated goal of the Middle east before the 1967 war towards Israel? Her total destruction. The other day in the LAT there was an article taken from the Guardian regarding Israel. &#8220;Sharon&#8217;s provacative withdrawl from Gaza&#8217; was actually written down. What? This of course was one of the &#8220;root causes&#8221; and now withdrawl from Gaza is considered provacative. The goal posts keep changing. If anyone thinks withdrawl from Iraq will solve anything and stop the terrorist bombings they just have not been paying attention.</p>
<p>Kevin Peters</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there has just been a bombing in Egypt:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163412,00.html



This happens to be a very popular resort for Swedish people to go on vacation. It&#039;s not yet clear if the target was Egypt, or the Swedish tourists...

Otherwise Sweden looks more and more in turn:

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1775&amp;date=20050722&amp;PHPSESSID=148c64d60ccf79fb52520c78b4dca1e7



This guy has two families, and no job. He&#039;s supported by the swedish welfaresystem, but still managed to take a 2 months vacation to the USA a while back.



I also read the origanal Swedish article:

http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=408031

The english version misses the full quote, he says that Sweden is *not yet* a target, but that can change if situation for muslims dont improve.

And of course, if he is turned over to England or USA, Sweden will become a prime target...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there has just been a bombing in Egypt:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163412,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163412,00.html</a></p>
<p>This happens to be a very popular resort for Swedish people to go on vacation. It&#8217;s not yet clear if the target was Egypt, or the Swedish tourists&#8230;</p>
<p>Otherwise Sweden looks more and more in turn:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1775&amp;date=20050722&amp;PHPSESSID=148c64d60ccf79fb52520c78b4dca1e7" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1775&amp;date=20050722&amp;PHPSESSID=148c64d60ccf79fb52520c78b4dca1e7</a></p>
<p>This guy has two families, and no job. He&#8217;s supported by the swedish welfaresystem, but still managed to take a 2 months vacation to the USA a while back.</p>
<p>I also read the origanal Swedish article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=408031" rel="nofollow">http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=408031</a></p>
<p>The english version misses the full quote, he says that Sweden is *not yet* a target, but that can change if situation for muslims dont improve.</p>
<p>And of course, if he is turned over to England or USA, Sweden will become a prime target&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s next?  Egypt indeed, Kevin.



They&#039;re attacking our allies and will, I predict, attack us within a year in the US.  These are all their hail mary passes, so I think the big confrontation is coming, to force us out of the Middle East or into war.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s next?  Egypt indeed, Kevin.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re attacking our allies and will, I predict, attack us within a year in the US.  These are all their hail mary passes, so I think the big confrontation is coming, to force us out of the Middle East or into war.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dougf,

No but the new rules of engagement are,despite the british Army having been in Iraq from the outset,the Bali and Madrid bombings ther has never be the authority to shoot,because the Muslim vote is too important to the Labour government.Consider the use of the ICC Act to prosecute soldiers that Blair had sent to do the dirty work,the Religious Hate Speech laws being rushed onto the Statute book.

The RoP was also one of those wonder groups that were going to lead us all into a wonderful multicultural Europe,as such no doubt was permitted.As in America,the progressive submissives were allowed to subdue any aboriginal culture.

Now Tony rules by focus group and the word on the street is that the British are mightily pissed,hence his plea for calm to a people that wasn&#039;t contemplating doing anything.

Hence Tony had to give the natives something,even though a rabid Imam will be allowed entry to this country,as have many of his creed,much to the chagrin of those who pay his salary.

My point that much of this could have been prevented if the RoP had noy been regarded as a protected species.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dougf,</p>
<p>No but the new rules of engagement are,despite the british Army having been in Iraq from the outset,the Bali and Madrid bombings ther has never be the authority to shoot,because the Muslim vote is too important to the Labour government.Consider the use of the ICC Act to prosecute soldiers that Blair had sent to do the dirty work,the Religious Hate Speech laws being rushed onto the Statute book.</p>
<p>The RoP was also one of those wonder groups that were going to lead us all into a wonderful multicultural Europe,as such no doubt was permitted.As in America,the progressive submissives were allowed to subdue any aboriginal culture.</p>
<p>Now Tony rules by focus group and the word on the street is that the British are mightily pissed,hence his plea for calm to a people that wasn&#8217;t contemplating doing anything.</p>
<p>Hence Tony had to give the natives something,even though a rabid Imam will be allowed entry to this country,as have many of his creed,much to the chagrin of those who pay his salary.</p>
<p>My point that much of this could have been prevented if the RoP had noy been regarded as a protected species.</p>
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