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1. rmcaelfinn:

I don’t know if it’s a blind eye as much as a belief that terrorism affirms all that the left holds dear. A false belief that rich western economies exploit third world labor and raw material which benefit only the rich at the expense of the poor–globalism.

Jul 24, 2005 - 10:13 am 2. PJ:

It seems that the organization to which Mr. Aslam belongs and refuses to disavow is also causing problems in New Zealand. It ain’t the Boy Scouts. (see lgf)

Jul 24, 2005 - 10:26 am 3. Terrye:

Talk about being hoisted on your own petard.

Jul 24, 2005 - 10:49 am 4. Das:

I keep wondering when the Guardian is going to start referring to the London terrorists as insurgents…(or militants or fighters or…combatants or …)

Jul 24, 2005 - 10:56 am 5. richard mcenroe:

Das ó I wonder how they felt to receive this e-mail from Jim Treacher:

Dear MediaGuardian newsdesk:

I think itís a good idea that the byline for this piece is merely ìA staff reporter.î You folks wouldnít want the reader to think that this remarkable piece of ice-cold reasoning is the opinion of a particular individual, rather than the stance of the Guardian staff as a whole. Also, thank you for pointing out that Scott Burgess ìspends his time indoorsî as heís keeping track of which terrorism-boosters youíre hiring because theyíre not pale and male. As is widely known, the Guardian staff always type away on their laptops as they sit in the grass under a big leafy tree.

If Mr. Aslam comes back into the office to pick up his final paycheque and heís wearing a bulky jacket in July and he just so happens to be running from a policeman, donít be nervous. Donít even give him a second glance. That would be racial profiling.

Warmest regards,

Jim Treacher

USA (A-ha!)

Jul 24, 2005 - 11:29 am 6. Das:

Cheers Rich – yeah, I saw Treacher’s note over at his site – apt, I’d say. The dolts at the Guardian are still enamored with murder propelled by some passionate idea; they consider it somehow superior to just plain old murder.

Jul 24, 2005 - 11:38 am 7. chuck:

The dolts at the Guardian are still enamored with murder propelled by some passionate idea; they consider it somehow superior to just plain old murder.

With an old line communist like Seumas Milne writing opinion, something has to justify mass murder. Why not passion? Let’s see how it sounds: “Stalin’s crimes were crimes of passion.” Hmmm, definitely better than that old historical determinism.

Jul 24, 2005 - 12:45 pm 8. PeterUK:

Aslam got his job at the Guardian because of what he was,not despite it.

Jul 24, 2005 - 5:00 pm 9. richard mcenroe:

PeterUk ó But those terrorists are just so earthy and exciting… why, we should even name our pets after them, just like speaker of truth to power Margaret Cho…

“Gudrun is named after the infamous Gudrun Ensslin who was the female leader of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, an art terrorist group from the 70s. Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.”

Jul 24, 2005 - 5:55 pm 10. mrp:

The matter of Islamist terrorism is the subject of Irwin Stelzer’s column in latest issue of the Weekly Standard.

Excerpt:

… the belief of British officials that a crackdown would “play into the hands of terrorists” by alienating young Muslims even more than they now are.

And many indeed are alienated, either because they have been unsuccessful in work or school, or because their version of Islam precludes adopting British mores. Take that alienation of young Muslim men from British society, add jihad-preaching clerics and the uninhibited right of British Muslims to return to Britain after attending radicalizing madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan, mix in the unwillingness of British leaders to seem hostile to Muslims, and you get some strange happenings–happenings that further distinguish British from American policy.

Jul 24, 2005 - 6:14 pm 11. rod:

Richard M.–Treacher rocks, period.

Britain has some very rough sledding ahead, Many chickens will come home to roost. Irwin Stelzer is a bright guy, and has great intentions, but is worried about pissing off his British paymasters.

Britain’s mollycoddling of terrorists, infused largely by a wholescale acceptance of the multi-culti leftist rejection of Western Civ, will prove to be a very, very bad idea.

Jul 24, 2005 - 6:39 pm 12. StevenT:

1- They knew of his association with a terrorism-supporting, Jew-hating group and kept him on anyway

2-They didn’nt think anyone would find out (Damn indoor-dwelling bloggers!)

3-They thought if someone did find out no one would find it objectionable

4-They apparently find nothing remarkable about the man’s views

5-Let’s remember these are the people who thought it was a good idea to e-mail voters in Ohio

The inescapable conclusion from all this – along with a casual perusal of their editorial pages- is that people at The Guardian are rather stupid.

So how about cutting them some slack?

Jul 24, 2005 - 6:45 pm 13. Bruce Wechsler:

Well I certainly hope the Guardian continues to receive a massive pommeling on this, and that the other fantasy news orgs of the area get a hint.

I think Britain (and Europe in general) has a harder row to hoe than the U.S. when it comes to the day-to-day relations with their Muslim populations, primarily due to the relative density of it populace and because a larger percentage of their residents are foreign-born (or first generation) Muslims. But I admit I do not have exact figures to refer to here; just based on general second hand knowledge & assumptions. Can anyone reading this provide links to or other sources of that kind of demographic info?

Bruce Wechsler

Jul 24, 2005 - 6:53 pm 14. richard mcenroe:

StevenT ó How about cutting them a big ole slice of that accountability they keep demanding from everybody else?

Jul 24, 2005 - 6:53 pm 15. LouMinatti:

Roger,

It’s funny you should mention the Dear Leader. I just wrote about his awesome videos and music scores. He is very ronry. Just a misunderstood artist and Daffy Duck afficionado.

Jul 24, 2005 - 7:46 pm 16. Syl:

The elephant in the room here is that Islamism is warring against muslims as much as against the West.

The Guardian’s attempts at understanding and including Islamist views in some pathetic show of fairness and objectivity is abjectly stupid. It hurts muslims as much as the fear of alienating young muslims ignores the relief the rest of the muslim community would feel if the Islamists were expelled from their midst.

Hispanics in America want our borders secured against the entry of terrorists just as the non-Hispanic Americans do. They are Americans too and would suffer as much from an attack as anyone else.

Leftist thinking, as all extreme thinking, lumps individual realities into one mass of humanity and creates a labeled cause which has nothing to do with the individuals so lumped. Not all poor are poor for the same reasons and not all poor are equally poor. And not all poor are even poor.

Jul 24, 2005 - 8:36 pm 17. Foobarista:

What is an “art terrorist group”? Is blowing up people considered performance art?

Jul 24, 2005 - 10:35 pm 18. moondoggy:

No individual or publication has done more to undermine British society than the Guardian. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that they are the mouthpiece for radical islam and terror in the UK.

Jul 25, 2005 - 5:34 am 19. byrd:

Richard McEnroe wrote:

PeterUk ? But those terrorists are just so earthy and exciting… why, we should even name our pets after them, just like speaker of truth to power Margaret Cho…

“Gudrun is named after the infamous Gudrun Ensslin who was the female leader of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, an art terrorist group from the 70s. Terrorism was different then. It had a chicness to it, which made it seem less like a dangerous menace and more like fashion.”

Richard, in Margaret Cho’s defense, she kicks her dog when nobody’s looking.

Jul 25, 2005 - 7:50 am 20. Silicon valley Jim:

I can think of nowhere on the planet that is more completely a bastion of stodgy ultra-traditionalist liberal/leftist thought than the UK’s Guardian

Actually, I can think of two. They’re both within forty miles of where I’m sitting right now (Mountain View/Los Altos/Palo Alto border). One is home to a major university. The other one used to have one of your (and my) US Senators as its mayor.

Jul 25, 2005 - 12:35 pm

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