But Bobby, Doctor, what should I do about Bobby. As you see there is no room in my life for him. I guess I don’t have the courage to face up to it and hurt him. I want someone else to tell him its over. I tried to get the President to do it, but I couldn’t reach him. Now I’m glad I couldn’t. He is too important to ask. You know when I sang Happy Birthday for him … Maybe I should stop being a coward and tell him myself. But because I know how much he’ll be hurt I don’t have the strength to hurt him.
I don’t know for sure if these transcripts are real, but one thing I do know… in this case you most certainly should READ THE WHOLE THING!
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1. lindenen:The most interesting thing to me was that, unless I read the transcript wrong, it appears there may have been no relationship with JFK.
Roger, what’s your opinion? Do you think she committed suicide or really was killed?
Aug 5, 2005 - 10:12 pm 2. RT:wow.
… i read the whole thing and…
wow. someone could find a copy of those tapes to prove those were indeed her words.
Aug 6, 2005 - 3:11 am 3. Terrye:Not what I expected.
Now they are all dead. Marilyn, Bobby and JFK..even Clark Gable and Sinatra.
She wanted to be taken seriusly and I find the preoccupation with Jews kind of weird. As for the Kennedy brothers, who will ever know? Teddy isn’t talking.
One thing I appreciated about Monroe was that even when she was a size 14 the woman looked gorgeous. She was the real deal.
I remember the first time I saw Niagara with Joseph Cotten and there was a scene of her walking away with that particular swing she had. Someone said later that she made sure one heel was a little lower than the other so that she would sway…I also remember hearing that some smart a** actress watching that scene said “That girl’s career is behind her”…
Aug 6, 2005 - 5:03 am 4. LemonDrop:*ahem*, Terrye…. Monroe would have looked odd had she been smaller. She was big busted, and a size 14 was very appropriate for her.
No wonder women everywhere have a size complex! Why is a size 0 sexy? I think it depends on the body, don’t you think? Skin and bones, sexiness does not make.
Of course the last Kennedy isn’t talking. He killed someone too, remember? The blonde in the river he left behind in the car crash? It’s all about the Kennedys. Not the women. Blah.
Aug 6, 2005 - 5:39 am 5. David Thomson:ìRoger, what’s your opinion? Do you think she committed suicide or really was killed?î
Come on, the Kennedy boys are not saints—but they are also not murderers. Marilyn Monroe was merely a very disturbed woman who eventually committed suicide. Tony Curtis, for instance, is candid about how her peculiar behavioral problems greatly hindered the filming of ìSome Like it Hot.î She was widely perceived by her friends as mentally unbalanced.
Ted Kennedy was likely guilty of criminal negligence. He should have been arrested and tried in a court of law. It is truly disgraceful how the liberal establishment protects him to this day. Still, I am convinced that the Massachusetts senator is not a vicious killer.
I also laugh at the allegations that Bill and Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster murdered. We have right to criticize these people in their political lives. But accusing them of murder? Letís get a grip.
Aug 6, 2005 - 7:27 am 6. ed:Hmmm.
@ David Thomson
1. They wouldn’t have necessarily approved the murder themselves, it could have been done by underlings without their knowledge. Monroe was a constant embarassment for JFK as President, and would also probably have been one for Bobby.
2. The Kennedys had a long relationship with organized crime. Joe Kennedy used to be a bootlegger I believe.
3. “I also laugh at the allegations that Bill and Hillary Clinton had Vince Foster murdered.”
And yet there are many troubling questions surrounding his “suicide”. Questions that frankly haven’t been answered. He may well have suicided, but considering the vast repetoire of dirty tricks the Clintons engaged in for years, I think it’s very possible, not likely but possible, that the Clintons were involved.
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Frankly I think publishing this is completely out of line. Monroe reocrded this for her therapist, who is obligated by the law to not disclose this private stuff. I believe that there still is a Maryln Monroe estate and that they should sue the living hell out of anybody associated with this.
Aug 6, 2005 - 8:03 am 7. LemonDrop:I believe once you are dead you are no longer protected by Doctor/patient confidentiality. Just a tidbit I saw on the news. Of course the news isn’t exactly reliable but I’ve heard it several times. That also goes for Lawyer/client confidentiality.
When you are dead, you lose your rights.
Aug 6, 2005 - 8:23 am 8. David Thomson:ì1. They wouldn’t have necessarily approved the murder themselves, it could have been done by underlings without their knowledge. Monroe was a constant embarassment for JFK as President, and would also probably have been one for Bobby.î
There is no evidence whatsoever to back up this conspiracy theory. Everything indicates that Marilyn Monroe either accidentally overdosed or committed suicide. Her death was not surprising considering her mental instability.
ì2. The Kennedys had a long relationship with organized crime. Joe Kennedy used to be a bootlegger I believe.î
Joe Senior was never a bootlegger. He did play fast and lose with stock transactions, but he never fooled around with illegal alcohol sales.
ìAnd yet there are many troubling questions surrounding his “suicide”. Questions that frankly haven’t been answered. He may well have suicided, but considering the vast repetoire of dirty tricks the Clintons engaged in for years, I think it’s very possible, not likely but possible, that the Clintons were involved.î
The suicide of Vince Foster was not even remotely suspicious. I well remember an interview with the park rangers who found the body. They readily came to the conclusion that Foster committed suicide. There was zero evidence to suggest otherwise. Their jaws dropped to the ground with disbelief once the weird conspiracy nonsense swirled around their heads.
Aug 6, 2005 - 11:06 am 9. lindenen:It wouldn’t have even had to be the Kennedys who did it. Depending on how much she hung out with Sinatra she may have seen or heard something she shouldn’t have. It’s all speculation. I guess we’ll never know.
Marilyn Monroe was NOT a modern day size 14. She may have worn a 14 back then, but in today’s sizes that is probably a 6 or an 8. American women are much fatter than they used to be and the sizes have been changed to flatter their vanity. She was shaped like the proverbial hourglass. A woman with a waist as small as her’s is going to have her pants fall off if she put on a modern size 14.
Aug 6, 2005 - 12:29 pm 10. Kevin P:Roger:
Hilary jumps with joy everytime someone brings up the “Foster Murder” rumour. Even Ken Starr concurs with the suicide finding. There are so many valid reasons to convince people not to vote for the Clintons that every time the death list conspiracy theories are brought up it only gives the Clinton’s cover for their actual mistakes. If anyone doesn’t want Hilary in the White House they will never bring up Vince Foster again.
Aug 6, 2005 - 12:58 pm 11. richard mcenroe:David Thomson _ Ted Kennedy is not a vicous killer; he’s worse: he’s an indifferent killer. There is not the slightest evidence that he gave a single thought to Mary Jo Kopechne after he waddled ashore that didn’t revolve around how thos would affect him.
Aug 6, 2005 - 2:32 pm 12. steph:I think all these “transcripts” are made up nonsense.
When you wonder why this particular woman just doesnt go away, just think back to when she was a new star and it was found out that she posed for a Calander in the Nude. That was in the 50’s and it was expected that this would kill her career. It didnt. In fact, it added to her image and not in any kind of negative way. Amazing for the times. People seemed then to want to be protective of her and it still goes on today.
What did she have that almost no one else seems to have? (there are many many more beautiful women around then and now) She stays in our hearts for some reason.
Aug 6, 2005 - 6:47 pm 13. mikem:Anybody have a problem with someone’s psychiatric records being published? These are tapes she made for her psychiatrist at his direction.
I’m sure there are plenty of medical workers who could use a couple thousand dollars as anonymous sources. Imagine the access they can provide us into the world of private pain and suffering among our celebrities and public figures.
I’m disgusted with the L.A. Dog Trainer and the lack of protest against such an obvious affront to human dignity.
Aug 6, 2005 - 11:10 pm