Roger L. Simon

August 15th, 2005 1:00 pm

Today’s mystery question…

Which parent will get more attention from the mainstream media… A or B? (Sorry, no prize, it’s too easy -but a hat tip goes to Charles Martin.)

UPDATE: Hitchens demonstrates that those riding the Sheehan bandwagon are reactionaries par excellence.

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1. mojo:

Does MR stand for Mental Retard?

Aug 15, 2005 - 1:47 pm 2. klrfz1:

If only part of what is told in this Newsweek article, ‘I’m So Sorry’, is true then Cindy Sheehan’s pitiless hatred is gouging away at our President’s morale. I used to feel sorry for her. I know she will soon collapse into the next stage of her grief. But right now she has made herself into a weapon uniquely calculated to harm George W. Bush.

Mr. President, I and millions of people like me believe you are doing the right thing in Iraq. Do your best and place your trust in God. God bless you, Sir. I’ll be praying for you.

Aug 15, 2005 - 1:57 pm 3. Robert Crawford:

Hitchens demonstrates that those riding the Sheehan bandwagon are reactionaries par excellence.

Well, duh. The rhetoric, tactics, and sometimes even word choice of the people behind Sheehan are indistinguishable from that of Coughlinites and America Firsters before WWII.

The difference is that after Pearl Harbor, we prosecuted traitors and the press stopped giving them free ink.

Aug 15, 2005 - 2:49 pm 4. Luther McLeod:

Thanks so much for that link, klrfz1. I’m not sure if it was the author’s (Bailey and Thomas) intent, but that article made me respect GWB even more. What an extremely difficult thing to do, visiting the families of the dead. We ask so much of this man. All he asks in return is our support for doing the right thing. The right thing for our country and the right thing for those who have sacrificed all. And to choose between A or B. Goodness, two different worlds, and our MSM sees only one of them.

Aug 15, 2005 - 3:11 pm 5. Sandy P:

That’s not the mystery question, the mystery question is has Singapore solved the cheap renewable energy problem?

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7850

Pee-powered battery smaller than a credit card

Aug 15, 2005 - 3:12 pm 6. Kevin P:

Roger:

I felt so sorry for her at first. This has dropped into the zone of agit-prop and the press is willingly portraying her as a non-political actor. She doesn’t want to “talk and ask questions.” She wants to yell and repeat her “murderer and liar” charge and then come out and repeat it again and call him a callous bastard on top of it. This is P.R., her rhetoric is tired old “war for oil and it’s the joooooos” conspiracy bilge. She is no different then the protesters who have been surrounding the White House since the start if the war. He met with her once. The death of her son does not give her second chances so she can gin up fodder for her PR campaign. And the press is pumping her up beyond her importance.At this point I will protest if he does meet with her.

kevin Peters

Aug 15, 2005 - 4:14 pm 7. Pat Curley:

I see Cindy picked up the endorsement of David Duke today….

Aug 15, 2005 - 4:19 pm 8. Terrye:

Cindy Sheehan should have quit while she was ahead. If you call it that.

but enough is enough.

She is turning into a stalker.

Aug 15, 2005 - 4:23 pm 9. ajf:

I don’t feel sorry for Cindy at all. She’s quite obviously a worthless piece of garbage. How she could have spawned an honorable son is a mystery. Casey deserves our admiration for having overcome her existence, living a life of honor, and dying a noble death.

Aug 15, 2005 - 4:28 pm 10. Rick Ballard:

ajf,

I fail to see the need to excoriate her in a comments forum. I do feel sorry for her loss and sorrier still that she has become a soap opera prop for use by people who will drop her as soon as this little farce has run its course. She will not merit a footnote and her son will still be gone - as well the respect one would normally feel for a grieving family member.

There are over four thousand grieving parents, spouses and children of men and women who have given the full measure in service to our country. We should not let our disgust with one person tarnish the honor and respect we feel for them.

I’m reserving my full measure of bile for the antiwar scum using her, with a double measure for the Copperhead MSM aiding them.

Once again, cancel a subscription and pay attention to what you watch. Take a dollar from those on the other side.

Aug 15, 2005 - 4:48 pm 11. Kevin P:

Rick:

There has to be a seperation of her horrorific loss and her political positions. The natural sympathy I felt for her, and regarding her sons death I still feel for her, does not mean that her political rants, some of which has hinted at some nasty racial slurs, should be shielded from crticism. It is her right to take any political position that she wants and protest in any manner that she feels is proper. But she has entered the political fray in a very obvious fashion and her status as a Gold Star Mother does not mean that we have to ignore some of her more absurd statements.If I met her I would thank her for her sons service and express my sympathy. If she told me that I was part of the intentional murder of her son and the neo-con haliburton conspiracy because I voted for President Bush then I would feel free to respond.

Kevin Peters

Aug 15, 2005 - 6:04 pm 12. ajf:

Rick,

She’s scum too, that’s the point. She’s not being used, she is using the honor her son accrued to diminish his memory and that of all those who have fallen. Unforgivable.

Aug 15, 2005 - 6:04 pm 13. Rick Ballard:

Sorry fellas, I’ve seen the left in action with the Copperhead press in full crying support too many times.

I’m not going to be drawn to disparagement of a sock puppet. She is free to dishonor her sons memory, ruin her relationship with the rest of her family and generally make a complete fool of herself - I’m still sorry for her loss. She’s more pitiable than damnable.

I prefer to focus my disparagemnet on the scum suckers who use her and will discard her like used tissue when she has served her purpose. One can only hope that each and every one of them has the opportunity to become an object to be used in the same manner. They’ve earned it.

Aug 15, 2005 - 6:22 pm 14. Rick Ballard:

Looks like Mr. Sheehan may not agree.

That’s only a piece of the price she will pay.

Aug 15, 2005 - 6:34 pm 15. Hogarth:

That’s only a piece of the price she will pay.

It will only serve to feed her self-induced martyrdom.

Oh, the cross she must bear on behalf of us ignorant chickenhawks.

Aug 16, 2005 - 5:41 am 16. Kyda Sylvester:

Michael Medved had Phil Kiver, Army journalist and author of 182 Days in Iraq, on his show yesterday.

Phil is stationed at Fort Hood and on his day off whet to Crawford to see Mrs. Sheehan. He said that in his opinion she has not even begun to address her grief. When they were saying goodbye after a private conversation away from the cameras, Cindy asked if she could hug him and pretend for a moment that he was her son. He whispered in her ear “I love you, Mom” and she replied “I love you, Casey”. Phil’s account helped me put a human face back on Cindy Sheehan. I still despise her rhetoric and her actions and, like Rick, have nothing but contempt for the scum who uses people like Sheehan to further their own contemptible ends, but, damn, she’s a sad, sad woman.

Aug 16, 2005 - 7:05 am 17. Kyda Sylvester:

Well, Phil went to Crawford. He may have done some whetting while he was there, but if so he didn’t mention it.

Aug 16, 2005 - 7:54 am 18. rastajenk:

She seems to be the latest in a line that includes the 9/11 widows’ clan, upon whom instant expertise and authority on everything was bestowed by mainsteam media. She has no more authority than any of the five mothers who buried children around here in SW Ohio recently, and probably less having exploited her circumstances to this point.

Aug 16, 2005 - 8:27 am 19. Maggie:

Kyla, thank you for that. Helps me to have a bit more compassion again for her.

Aug 16, 2005 - 9:26 am 20. Keith_Indy:

I believe it does her sons memory a diservice to turn his coffin into a soapbox…

Aug 16, 2005 - 10:48 am 21. neo-neocon:

Ordinarily, Cindy Sheehan would be dealing with her grief and rage privately, but she’s chosen to make herself a public and political spectacle, with the eager assistence of the MSM.

I’ve tried to put the whole thing in historical (and psychological) perspective in this article. There are some very interesting tie-ins to the Vietnam era and the intergenerational conflict it engendered.

Aug 16, 2005 - 11:38 am 22. Kyda Sylvester:

t r u t h o u t | One Mother’s Stand

By Cindy Sheehan

Tuesday 16 August 2005

12:08 AM

Misses and Miracles

We still have so many great things happening at Camp Casey. In spite of all the smears and lies, people are still coming.

The most amazing thing today was learning that Camp Caseys are opening and spreading all over the country. They have been set up in Boston, Portland, Seattle, and elsewhere. If you can’t make it to Camp Casey, set up your own version. Camp Caseys are amazing places full of love and hope. I am so gratified that the movement is spreading.

There is a meeting tomorrow at the County Commissioner’s meeting to vote on closing Prairie Chapel Road and then evicting us. We were all worried about that and planning on being arrested when we got the best news yet. The property owner who owns property near Bush’s ranch and right across the street from Bush’s church will let us move Camp Casey there!! He has property on both sides of the road … a full acre for us to camp! We are so excited!!! We can fit more people and we will be closer to the ranch. Miracles, miracles.

Mike Rogers from Tokyo showed up today and a dear woman from Australia who was a human shield in Iraq and knows that the Iraqi people are not jumping for joy that the policies of Bush destroyed their country.

This is an extremely short post today … I am exhausted.

Link

Aug 16, 2005 - 3:03 pm 23. Keith_Indy:

Camp Caseys are amazing places full of love and hope.

**********

Love and hope, then how come all I seem to hear is hate, anger and despair…

Aug 17, 2005 - 10:32 am

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