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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/10/25/vengeance-is-sweet-lets-hope/#comment-67197</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

The Volcker documents may be damning for the UN and a range of companies who used the time honoured business approach of bribing the local dictator, but not for Galloway.

No one denied he has  a Scottish accent- if we are to have dialogue, you must refute the statements I made not some imagined ones of your own. I&#039;ll give you a hint - you would lose any respect for the opinion of someone who described Beckham as speaking like a cornishman or that John Redwood had a register from the planet earth. Carelessness in marshalling an argument saw poor sen. Coleman et al come to grief. He may not be right but Galloway is educated and your side will have to do better than this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>The Volcker documents may be damning for the UN and a range of companies who used the time honoured business approach of bribing the local dictator, but not for Galloway.</p>
<p>No one denied he has  a Scottish accent- if we are to have dialogue, you must refute the statements I made not some imagined ones of your own. I&#8217;ll give you a hint &#8211; you would lose any respect for the opinion of someone who described Beckham as speaking like a cornishman or that John Redwood had a register from the planet earth. Carelessness in marshalling an argument saw poor sen. Coleman et al come to grief. He may not be right but Galloway is educated and your side will have to do better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/10/25/vengeance-is-sweet-lets-hope/#comment-67196</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

The documents were never used in court,but the Telegraph is appealing,with the damning evidence from the Volcker report it looks like your boy will have to ask his wife nicely for the money in her account.

You mean he picked his scottish accent up in Iraq?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>The documents were never used in court,but the Telegraph is appealing,with the damning evidence from the Volcker report it looks like your boy will have to ask his wife nicely for the money in her account.</p>
<p>You mean he picked his scottish accent up in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/10/25/vengeance-is-sweet-lets-hope/#comment-67195</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter UKIP,

You wonder how The Torygraph managed to lose </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter UKIP,</p>
<p>You wonder how The Torygraph managed to lose</p>
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		<title>By: Bostonian</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/10/25/vengeance-is-sweet-lets-hope/#comment-67194</link>
		<dc:creator>Bostonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony:  &quot;If you are going to go after people who traded with Saddam and his minions for profit, you could do with selecting targets close to this failing administration.&quot;



Such as? Do tell. Why insinuate? Name names.



***

And do you really think that we should let someone get away with taking a public stance against the war while secretly profiting from the status quo?



I think not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony:  &#8220;If you are going to go after people who traded with Saddam and his minions for profit, you could do with selecting targets close to this failing administration.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such as? Do tell. Why insinuate? Name names.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>And do you really think that we should let someone get away with taking a public stance against the war while secretly profiting from the status quo?</p>
<p>I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late in the day but the Telegraph article http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/26/do2602.xml
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late in the day but the Telegraph article <a href="http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/26/do2602.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/26/do2602.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly the Telegraph is standing by the authenticity of the incriminating documents,which were never challenged by Galloway&#039;s legal team.

His politics,he was a lickspittle apologist for Saddam Hussein,anti-semite and extreme &quot;never had a proper day job&quot; left winger.

But it isn&#039;t his politics which are indictable,it is his alleged perjury,malfeasance of funds,involvement in a criminal conspiracy, possible support for a terrorist organisation,tax evasion and concealing his financial dealings from Parliament.Oh yes and spivvy dress sense!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly the Telegraph is standing by the authenticity of the incriminating documents,which were never challenged by Galloway&#8217;s legal team.</p>
<p>His politics,he was a lickspittle apologist for Saddam Hussein,anti-semite and extreme &#8220;never had a proper day job&#8221; left winger.</p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t his politics which are indictable,it is his alleged perjury,malfeasance of funds,involvement in a criminal conspiracy, possible support for a terrorist organisation,tax evasion and concealing his financial dealings from Parliament.Oh yes and spivvy dress sense!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you guys fallen for this again? Do you not remember the last time Coleman et al had the drop on Galloway? It was farcical. Now you are trusting them to get their ducks in a row and nail him. The evidence is highly suspect. That is why he has won his libel actions and why he can afford the Portuguese villa.  If you remember the circumstances whereby an  &quot;independent&quot; journalist stumbled across incriminating evidence (badly forged) in the first document box he opened in a room in Iraq, you will find a level of incredible coincidence which even Fennimore Cooper or Charlie Dickens at their most &quot;blocked&quot; would have been shamed to advance.

Why are you talking of extradition? Galloway would go to the USA on Airforce One to pick up a libel cheque from your guys. Some of you fear this outcome-getting your arses kicked again - but you keep sticking them out of the window, don&#039;t you? That&#039;s why you want the Telegraph/Torygraph to pursue him. They won&#039;t ! -unless the CIA guarantee their losses.

The real shame in all this is that there is a lot wrong with Galloway&#039;s world view but the actions of clowns like Coleman and yourselves as his cheerleaders is your desperation to take him down by discrediting him elsewhere. Just as you did with Clinton&#039;s sex life. Why not be big enough and bold enough to just take him on re his political views. That&#039;s the mature way. Forget about tying his charity work to corruption. Whatever his deficiencies, thanks to a good dose of Scottish sceptical education (we produced Adam Smith and wee Davie Hume, remember!), he is too clever to have taken personal benefit. If you are going to go after people who traded with Saddam and his minions for profit, you could do with selecting targets close to this failing administration.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you guys fallen for this again? Do you not remember the last time Coleman et al had the drop on Galloway? It was farcical. Now you are trusting them to get their ducks in a row and nail him. The evidence is highly suspect. That is why he has won his libel actions and why he can afford the Portuguese villa.  If you remember the circumstances whereby an  &#8220;independent&#8221; journalist stumbled across incriminating evidence (badly forged) in the first document box he opened in a room in Iraq, you will find a level of incredible coincidence which even Fennimore Cooper or Charlie Dickens at their most &#8220;blocked&#8221; would have been shamed to advance.</p>
<p>Why are you talking of extradition? Galloway would go to the USA on Airforce One to pick up a libel cheque from your guys. Some of you fear this outcome-getting your arses kicked again &#8211; but you keep sticking them out of the window, don&#8217;t you? That&#8217;s why you want the Telegraph/Torygraph to pursue him. They won&#8217;t ! -unless the CIA guarantee their losses.</p>
<p>The real shame in all this is that there is a lot wrong with Galloway&#8217;s world view but the actions of clowns like Coleman and yourselves as his cheerleaders is your desperation to take him down by discrediting him elsewhere. Just as you did with Clinton&#8217;s sex life. Why not be big enough and bold enough to just take him on re his political views. That&#8217;s the mature way. Forget about tying his charity work to corruption. Whatever his deficiencies, thanks to a good dose of Scottish sceptical education (we produced Adam Smith and wee Davie Hume, remember!), he is too clever to have taken personal benefit. If you are going to go after people who traded with Saddam and his minions for profit, you could do with selecting targets close to this failing administration.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,

It is best that he goes down for defrauding the Telegraph out of </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>It is best that he goes down for defrauding the Telegraph out of</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter:



I understand what you are saying. I honestly do.



And McCArthy has been dead for years, and I think it is safe to say he was the exception not the rule.



But if this bastard broke the law letting him get away with it for fear he will look all handsome to the loonies is no different than letting a rich man or a well connected man go free.



I like to think that most people are not above the law and that should include the likes of Galloway.



I think that is the reason we let guys like Mugabe rant at the UN about the evil Blair and Bush...nobody wants to give the guy a hard time because they just want him to go away. Meanwhile people suffer and die at his hands.



I did hear Hitchens say some interesting things about this. Needless to say he thinks Galloway is a liar and a thief.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying. I honestly do.</p>
<p>And McCArthy has been dead for years, and I think it is safe to say he was the exception not the rule.</p>
<p>But if this bastard broke the law letting him get away with it for fear he will look all handsome to the loonies is no different than letting a rich man or a well connected man go free.</p>
<p>I like to think that most people are not above the law and that should include the likes of Galloway.</p>
<p>I think that is the reason we let guys like Mugabe rant at the UN about the evil Blair and Bush&#8230;nobody wants to give the guy a hard time because they just want him to go away. Meanwhile people suffer and die at his hands.</p>
<p>I did hear Hitchens say some interesting things about this. Needless to say he thinks Galloway is a liar and a thief.</p>
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		<title>By: rosignol</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosignol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]



&lt;i&gt;You might care about the US Senate but the rest of the world does not,there will be hundreds of cases where people lied to the Senate,Kennedy ans Kerry are Senators,how much credibility do you think the Senate has?&lt;/i&gt;





Enough that most of the rest of the planet wanted Senator Kerry to win the last Presidential election here...





&lt;i&gt;Everyone remembers MacCarthy.&lt;/i&gt;





Not well enough, unfortunately. If they did, &#039;everyone&#039; would know that Senator McCarthy was right.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VENONA_project



[...]



&lt;i&gt;In 1995, a bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, with Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan as chairman, was responsible for the release of Venona project materials (although many inside the NSA had also come to believe that the time had come to make it public, and argued internally for such a release).&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;i&gt;Moynihan wrote &quot;The Venona intercepts contained overwhelming proof of the activities of Soviet spy networks in America, complete with names, dates, places, and deeds.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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<p><i>You might care about the US Senate but the rest of the world does not,there will be hundreds of cases where people lied to the Senate,Kennedy ans Kerry are Senators,how much credibility do you think the Senate has?</i></p>
<p>Enough that most of the rest of the planet wanted Senator Kerry to win the last Presidential election here&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Everyone remembers MacCarthy.</i></p>
<p>Not well enough, unfortunately. If they did, &#8216;everyone&#8217; would know that Senator McCarthy was right.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VENONA_project" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VENONA_project</a></p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p><i>In 1995, a bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, with Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan as chairman, was responsible for the release of Venona project materials (although many inside the NSA had also come to believe that the time had come to make it public, and argued internally for such a release).</i></p>
<p><i>Moynihan wrote &#8220;The Venona intercepts contained overwhelming proof of the activities of Soviet spy networks in America, complete with names, dates, places, and deeds.&#8221;</i></p>
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