Comments on: Seymour: An Introduction http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:36:25 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dumbo http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68904 Dumbo Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:40:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68904 Hersh is peddling his 70's conspiracy bs. Of course, he has his unnamed sources, the same vermin who blamed 9/11 on the Mossad I imagine. Hersh is peddling his 70’s conspiracy bs. Of course, he has his unnamed sources, the same vermin who blamed 9/11 on the Mossad I imagine.

]]> By: greeneyeshade http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68903 greeneyeshade Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:19:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68903 Nothing Hersh says surprises me much since he told the Columbia Journalism Review a few years back that Bush took us into Iraq to distract the public from Enron and other corporate scandals. It doesn't surprise me that the Review didn't call him on it, either. Nothing Hersh says surprises me much since he told the Columbia Journalism Review a few years back that Bush took us into Iraq to distract the public from Enron and other corporate scandals. It doesn’t surprise me that the Review didn’t call him on it, either.

]]> By: Mork http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68902 Mork Mon, 14 Nov 2005 05:33:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68902 Seymour Hersh is doing exactly the same thing as he has been doing for the last 40 years. If you thought he was a hero for revealing My Lai, but a villain for revealing Abu Ghraib and the extent of official torture, or any of his other recent work, it is you who have changed, and not him. To those of us who value truth, freedom and democracy, he is as much of a hero as ever. Seymour Hersh is doing exactly the same thing as he has been doing for the last 40 years. If you thought he was a hero for revealing My Lai, but a villain for revealing Abu Ghraib and the extent of official torture, or any of his other recent work, it is you who have changed, and not him.

To those of us who value truth, freedom and democracy, he is as much of a hero as ever.

]]> By: WichitaBoy http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68901 WichitaBoy Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:28:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68901 Hersh hasn't done a damn thing for 30-odd years except try to relive his glory days. It's very sad. It's like the high school quarterback or cheerleader who never finds anything else to talk about the rest of their lives. <i>Hersh has become reified into a kind of frozen artifact of 1972. Any hint of idealism that once was in him has been drained from his body. The idea that he could get any pleasure from democracy in Iraq is so remote as to be almost non-existent.</i> Sums up the whole generation quite well. Hersh hasn’t done a damn thing for 30-odd years except try to relive his glory days. It’s very sad. It’s like the high school quarterback or cheerleader who never finds anything else to talk about the rest of their lives.

Hersh has become reified into a kind of frozen artifact of 1972. Any hint of idealism that once was in him has been drained from his body. The idea that he could get any pleasure from democracy in Iraq is so remote as to be almost non-existent.

Sums up the whole generation quite well.

]]> By: Caroline http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68900 Caroline Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:53:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68900 Roger Simon: "No, I think in comments like this he is trying to relive his glory days of the secret bombing of Cambodia when he, Seymour, was a hero. I can sympathize. This is a temptation we all have" It may be a temptation that many people have but it deserves no sympathy whatsoever. It ought to be roundly condemned. The stakes for the west as a whole are simply too high to pander to the ego needs of baby-boomer has-beens. Roger Simon: “No, I think in comments like this he is trying to relive his glory days of the secret bombing of Cambodia when he, Seymour, was a hero.

I can sympathize. This is a temptation we all have”

It may be a temptation that many people have but it deserves no sympathy whatsoever. It ought to be roundly condemned. The stakes for the west as a whole are simply too high to pander to the ego needs of baby-boomer has-beens.

]]> By: MikeD http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68899 MikeD Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68899 "The L.A. Times finally fired Robert Scheer after 2000 editions of the same story written over and over and over and over and over again. Someday Scheer and Hersch will wake up and realize that 1972 ended long ago." But the best part, (or so I understand) is that he has been replaced by Jonah Goldberg's syndicated column. I'm not sure this will halt the LAT's decline but the irony is delicious! “The L.A. Times finally fired Robert Scheer after 2000 editions of the same story written over and over and over and over and over again. Someday Scheer and Hersch will wake up and realize that 1972 ended long ago.”

But the best part, (or so I understand) is that he has been replaced by Jonah Goldberg’s syndicated column. I’m not sure this will halt the LAT’s decline but the irony is delicious!

]]> By: Kevin P http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68898 Kevin P Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:33:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68898 Roger: Vietnam,Nixon, Watergate. It not only set the Journalistic mind set of Hersch and his leftist buddies but they can't go two months without working at least one if not all three subjects into their work. The quagmire, Vietnam analogy started with the beginning of Afghanistan war and of course they eventually got around to the Bush-Nixon duet with the slim Plame, "16 words" scandals. It's Pavlovian. They just take every political story and they eventually work their themes in. It is as suprisng as Mick Jagger putting his hands on his hips and doing his Stones strut. The L.A. Times finally fired Robert Scheer after 2000 editions of the same story written over and over and over and over and over again. Someday Scheer and Hersch will wake up and realize that 1972 ended long ago. Roger:

Vietnam,Nixon, Watergate. It not only set the Journalistic mind set of Hersch and his leftist buddies but they can’t go two months without working at least one if not all three subjects into their work. The quagmire, Vietnam analogy started with the beginning of Afghanistan war and of course they eventually got around to the Bush-Nixon duet with the slim Plame, “16 words” scandals. It’s Pavlovian. They just take every political story and they eventually work their themes in. It is as suprisng as Mick Jagger putting his hands on his hips and doing his Stones strut.

The L.A. Times finally fired Robert Scheer after 2000 editions of the same story written over and over and over and over and over again. Someday Scheer and Hersch will wake up and realize that 1972 ended long ago.

]]> By: doc99 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68897 doc99 Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:06:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68897 This curious stance puts Sy Hersh in the same camp with George Galloway, Pro-Fascist and Anti-Democrat. Soon he'll find himself confronted by Hitchens on a dark podium. This curious stance puts Sy Hersh in the same camp with George Galloway, Pro-Fascist and Anti-Democrat. Soon he’ll find himself confronted by Hitchens on a dark podium.

]]> By: TedM http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68896 TedM Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:44:31 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68896 Totten wrote something very appropriate to this about 6 months ago. It is well worth reading today. http://www.techcentralstation.com/050504D.html In it he cites Berman's Terror and Liberalism. This book is a must reading, particularly since it is written by a noted liberal. Totten wrote something very appropriate to this about 6 months ago. It is well worth reading today.

http://www.techcentralstation.com/050504D.html

In it he cites Berman’s Terror and Liberalism. This book is a must reading, particularly since

it is written by a noted liberal.

]]> By: Terrye http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68895 Terrye Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:36:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2005/11/12/seymour-an-introduction/#comment-68895 The other day a young man I know looked at me and said "We will never get to stop hearing about Viet Nam until all the baby boomers are dead." And you know what? He is right. Viet Nam and Watergate were the events which fashioned the modern media mindset and the baby boomers that nursed it along. The other day a young man I know looked at me and said “We will never get to stop hearing about Viet Nam until all the baby boomers are dead.”

And you know what? He is right. Viet Nam and Watergate were the events which fashioned the modern media mindset and the baby boomers that nursed it along.

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