… sounds a little like “Miss Otis Regrets,” doesn’t it? Anyway, TigerHawk does some graphing to show us the egregious failures of the NYT when it comes to economic prognostication, a fool’s game for most of us, but for the Grey Lady nach ein ander opportunity to bash the Bush administration. What does Suzlberger care that they are dead wrong again? His niche market has no memory … or does it?
And speaking of memory and the NYT, perhaps I missed something, but I’m still waiting for someone to enlighten me on the difference between the NSA’s Echelon program of the 1990s and the current “misuse” of that intelligence agency recently posited by the Xenophons of Zabars. I guess the niche market isn’t listening. There are sales at Bloomingdale’s.
UPDATE: Now the Justice Department is weighing in on what could emerge as one of the most bloody government/press face-offs of our time:
The Justice Department has opened an investigation into the leak of classified information about President Bush’s secret domestic spying program, Justice officials said Friday.
The officials, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe, said the inquiry will focus on disclosures to The New York Times about warrantless surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
The Times revealed the existence of the program two weeks ago in a front-page story that acknowledged the news had been withheld from publication for a year, partly at the request of the administration and partly because the newspaper wanted more time to confirm various aspects of the program.
Catherine Mathis, a spokeswoman for The Times, said the paper will not comment on the investigation.
I’m betting it’s the Times that has more to lose than the government in this one. They are going to have to explain why they held onto this story for a year and then suddenly decided it was okay to release it. New York Times stock has plummeted in the last quarter. How much lower can it go?
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1. Sandy P:This country really needs a serious discussion about the environazis w/ANWR drilling (provide for the common defense) and now this via Econopundit. Anyone who complains about the deficit should be asked a couple of questions:
New-age activism continues to kill America’s small family businesses:
The never-reported truth is that the family-owned sawmills that survived the decade-long collapse of the federal timber sale program no longer have much interest in doing business with a government they no longer trust. Most now get their timber from lands they’ve purchased in recent years, other private lands, tribal forests or state lands. Some even import logs from other countries, including Canada, New Zealand and Chile.
You would think environmentalists who campaigned against harvesting in the West’s national forests for 30-some years would be dancing in the streets. And, in fact, some of them are. But many aren’t. Railing against giant faceless corporations is easy, but facing the news cameras after small family-owned mills fold has turned out to be very difficult. Everyone loves the underdog, and across much of the West there is a gnawing sense that environmentalists have hurt a lot of underdogs in their lust for power.
For extra credit: did you notice how environmental activism increases the current account deficit?
Dec 30, 2005 - 9:30 am 2. Peg C.:This can’t be good for the NYT, but my guess is it’s way worse for some mid-level beaurocrats, or disgruntled spies, or some really big fish in the Senate and/or their staffs, or all of the above. In my opinion the more that get reeled in with this thing, the better. Nothing less than the safety and security of this nation is at stake and flushing out our enemies domestic is mandatory now.
Dec 30, 2005 - 11:37 am 3. Tim:We now know why they are so concerned about the spying on American citizens.
Dec 30, 2005 - 12:08 pm 4. Mark Poling:I guess it’s too much to hope for that some honchos in Jay Rockefeller’s office end up in Club Fed. (Does any state have a worse pair of Senators than West Virgia’s duds?)
Dec 30, 2005 - 12:17 pm 5. photoncourier.blogspot.com:‘How much lower can it go?” NYT market capitalization is still $3.8 billion, so there’s still quite a ways it could fall. Demographics and technology would make the task faced by Times management difficult in any case; they’re making it worse for themselves with their excessive politicization of everything.
Here;s an article on problems faced by old media in the new world: Old Media Is Clueless on Web
The point about electronic paper / electronic ink technologies, which is alluded to in the Red Herring article, is an important one, and this may prove to be a killer blow for many traditional media companies.
Dec 30, 2005 - 1:10 pm 6. Insufficiently Sensitive:Unfortunately, the NYT will make all too dramatic of a case for being an oppressed victim of the fascist Federal Government. Better that an ‘independent’ prosecutor take this one on, and worry it like the Plame case.
But the Plame case was harped on constantly by the MSM, to keep up the attack on the Administration. With the press as the defendant (or at least the beneficiary of the real leaker-defendant), the parts of the investigation not spun as ‘persecution of the oh-so-professional press’ will just be suppressed to the greatest extent possible.
The Administration has an uphill battle, and will need all possible assistance from the non-Exempt media.
Dec 30, 2005 - 1:50 pm 7. Terrye:I wonder if it has occured to the NYT that Bush is going to be gone in a couple of years but leaking classified information can have consequences that go on and on?
I don’t doubt the NYT will try to make themselves the victim, but this leak is a crime and I think Americans are getting tired of of the press running its mouth like this and the public wants to know is giving out this kind of information.
Dec 30, 2005 - 2:07 pm 8. TomTom:Roger,
“noch”, nicht “nach”.
Dec 30, 2005 - 2:28 pm 9. pastorius:Roger,
I see no difference between the Echelon computer, which intercepts messages over phone lines by keywords, and the current plan which is being criticized.
Even as a Clinton-loving Democract back in the 90’s, I approved of Echelon and still approve of it today.
Dec 30, 2005 - 2:33 pm 10. ForNow:Roger wrote:
What does Suzlberger care that they are dead wrong again? [emphasis added]
Look closely, that’s a misspelling of the NYT publisher’s name. “Suzlberger”? Some sizzle, I guess the NYT publisher just “suzles.”
The correct spelling is P-I-N-C-H.
Dec 30, 2005 - 2:50 pm 11. jedrury:There is really no law for Risen to hide behind now that the issue of proclaimed press shield law on the Federal level does not exist. Hopefully some low level attorney at DOJ is now filling out the grand jury subpoena in the name of “James Risen;” your appearance and all of “your notes and handbooks” is demanded for the Federal Grand Jury sitting in the District of Columbia, 3rd and Constitution Avenues, for the first week of Janaury, 2006.
Thank you, Ambassador Joe Wilson, Judy Miller and Matt Cooper for the clarification and affirmation of the existing law. You are to be saluted. Floyd Abrams and Bob Bennett get ready for more appearances before the Chief Judge.
The screw turns; the justfication for a DOJ investigation screams out in this case. This is not some two bit leak case, this is a major spill. Leakers should go to jail.
Lest we forget that the President of the United States met personally with Risen, Pinch Sulzberger and the head of the Times Washington DC office before publication seeking a moratorium on publishing this story. You may call one “ballsy” to turn down a personal appeal by the president at that juncture, the more apt phrase in retrospect is “utterly brainless.”
Dec 30, 2005 - 2:52 pm 12. Sandy P:Via Capt Quarters on the WaPo:
In another attempt to find something sinister to hang onto the Bush administration, another secret program constituting a major part of the war on terror has been exposed by another member of the Exempt Media. This time, the Washington Post uses its contacts in the CIA to expose an umbrella program called GST, the code for a loose affiliation of dozens of programs designed to locate and fight terrorists abroad rather than wait for them to show up here. Nothing about the article stands out as a smoking gun, it never alleges anything specifically illegal, but Dana Priest writes the front-pager as a warning that the President has gone out of control in defending the US from attack:
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006040.php
Dec 30, 2005 - 3:10 pm 13. Pamela aka "Atlas":SHAMELESS PROMOTION (but that’s only because I am losing)
From Delicious Dan…………………It’s now or never guys. YOU GOT TO GIVE IT TO ME!
Vote for
Atlas here now! and make the kid happy!
Dec 30, 2005 - 4:04 pm 14. David:P-I-N-C-H heh.
Actually what this calls for are warrants and full blown and simultaneous raids for computers etc. Sick ‘em boys.
Dec 30, 2005 - 4:39 pm 15. cestmoi:How low can it go?Apparently $0.00 . rogerlsimon, on the other hand, is worth considerably more…
Dec 31, 2005 - 8:23 am 16. Nomorelies:Heads rolling in my dreams. I just love it when liberals push the button on the trap door while standing over the crapper.
Dec 31, 2005 - 4:45 pm 17. Mescalero:Why do you refer to the NYT as the “Grey Lady”?
From where I’m standing, this Sulzberger slut is nothing more than a Stalino-Islamo-Fascist prostitute!
Dec 31, 2005 - 8:28 pm 18. ForNow:The mode runs from grey to red.
Old Grey Lady –> Martian Gazette –> Rotten Red Hag
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