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		<title>By: markus</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/15/movies-on-the-edge/#comment-72812</link>
		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WhiteDemon -- i can imagine defeating the vast majority of radical Islamist terrorist cells, or defeating a few backward, rogue dictatorships that rule over Muslims.  I can&#039;t imagine winning a &quot;clash of civilizations&quot; with a billion and a half people.  I don&#039;t think any other SANE person can imagine doing this either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WhiteDemon &#8212; i can imagine defeating the vast majority of radical Islamist terrorist cells, or defeating a few backward, rogue dictatorships that rule over Muslims.  I can&#8217;t imagine winning a &#8220;clash of civilizations&#8221; with a billion and a half people.  I don&#8217;t think any other SANE person can imagine doing this either.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteDemon}:)</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiteDemon}:)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 07:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markus,



&quot;I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.&quot;



And if they do &quot;wake up&quot; -- doesn&#039;t what lies ahead then make you shudder as well?





Of course it does, but at least then non-muslims in general and western civilization in particular will have a chance to survive and possibly even win the war that islam is waging on us now, and for the past 1400 years.

If the MSM keeps up the sedition, sabotage and outright treason, I don&#039;t think America can win.  Perhaps what the MSM in the US needs is a couple of US media personalities to be savagely murdered for criticizing islam before the MSM here wakes up.  But maybe they won&#039;t wake up even then.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus,</p>
<p>&#8220;I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if they do &#8220;wake up&#8221; &#8212; doesn&#8217;t what lies ahead then make you shudder as well?</p>
<p>Of course it does, but at least then non-muslims in general and western civilization in particular will have a chance to survive and possibly even win the war that islam is waging on us now, and for the past 1400 years.</p>
<p>If the MSM keeps up the sedition, sabotage and outright treason, I don&#8217;t think America can win.  Perhaps what the MSM in the US needs is a couple of US media personalities to be savagely murdered for criticizing islam before the MSM here wakes up.  But maybe they won&#8217;t wake up even then.</p>
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		<title>By: Han_Solo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Han_Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Is jihadism the real Islam or is there an actual

&gt;moderate strain of the religion?



This quote from Marco Polo&#039;s Diary when he traveled around what is known today as the middle  east is very instructive on what the &quot;REAL&quot; nature of Islam has been for nearly 1000 years. (From:The Travels of Marco Polo, pp57-58 Peguin Books 1958):



&quot;The &lt;b&gt;Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.&lt;/b&gt; The law which their propehet Mohamet[Muhammad] has given them lays down that &lt;b&gt;any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all&lt;/b&gt;.. And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs. For this reason they would be great wrongdoers, if it were not for the government. And all the other Muslims in the world act on the same principle. When they are on the point of death up comes their preist[Mullah] and asks whether they believe that Mahomet was the true messenger of God; if they answer &quot;Yes&quot; then he tells them that they are saved.&quot;



Marco Polo saw the very SAME things we see today with Islam and this was 800 YEARS AGO!



Will we never learn from history??



Islam is Islam, always has, always will be.  Its simply an evil religion, with a twisted, primitive and scary belief system.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Is jihadism the real Islam or is there an actual</p>
<p>&gt;moderate strain of the religion?</p>
<p>This quote from Marco Polo&#8217;s Diary when he traveled around what is known today as the middle  east is very instructive on what the &#8220;REAL&#8221; nature of Islam has been for nearly 1000 years. (From:The Travels of Marco Polo, pp57-58 Peguin Books 1958):</p>
<p>&#8220;The <b>Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.</b> The law which their propehet Mohamet[Muhammad] has given them lays down that <b>any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all</b>.. And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs. For this reason they would be great wrongdoers, if it were not for the government. And all the other Muslims in the world act on the same principle. When they are on the point of death up comes their preist[Mullah] and asks whether they believe that Mahomet was the true messenger of God; if they answer &#8220;Yes&#8221; then he tells them that they are saved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marco Polo saw the very SAME things we see today with Islam and this was 800 YEARS AGO!</p>
<p>Will we never learn from history??</p>
<p>Islam is Islam, always has, always will be.  Its simply an evil religion, with a twisted, primitive and scary belief system.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Is jihadism the real Islam or is there an actual moderate strain of the religion? &quot;



Anglicans for Israel has this to say:



http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/01/16/the-trials-of-abu-hamza/



&quot;Unfortunately, itís entirely based on fact. The Qurían, the holy Traditions (sayings of the Prophet) and shariía law all enshrine an unshakeable policy of discrimination on a purely religious basis.&quot;



&quot;But so long as Muslim children watch animated films (like one I saw this week) showing Jews turning into apes and pigs, so long as anti-Semitic books and pamphlets outsell most other items in Muslim bookstores, so long as Christians are persecuted in Egypt, the West Bank, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere, so long as Islamic schools tell children that Muslims are superior to all others and that they should not make friends with non-believers, ...&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Is jihadism the real Islam or is there an actual moderate strain of the religion? &#8221;</p>
<p>Anglicans for Israel has this to say:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/01/16/the-trials-of-abu-hamza/" rel="nofollow">http://www.anglicansforisrael.com/docs/2006/01/16/the-trials-of-abu-hamza/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, itís entirely based on fact. The Qurían, the holy Traditions (sayings of the Prophet) and shariía law all enshrine an unshakeable policy of discrimination on a purely religious basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But so long as Muslim children watch animated films (like one I saw this week) showing Jews turning into apes and pigs, so long as anti-Semitic books and pamphlets outsell most other items in Muslim bookstores, so long as Christians are persecuted in Egypt, the West Bank, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere, so long as Islamic schools tell children that Muslims are superior to all others and that they should not make friends with non-believers, &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to post twice.  I know it is useful as propaganda to bemoan the alleged indifference of Hollywood to Theo Van Gogh&#039;s fate.  I for one would rather challenge the powers that be on this matter.  And I&#039;d like to see the film.  In Silver Spring, MD we have the American Film Institute -- perhaps they can be lobbied to show this film.  There are also a wide range of film festivals on a yearly basis, all of the country.  And perhaps the &quot;PEN&quot; organization - the writers group that created a lot of support for Rushdie in the late eighties - can be supportive.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to post twice.  I know it is useful as propaganda to bemoan the alleged indifference of Hollywood to Theo Van Gogh&#8217;s fate.  I for one would rather challenge the powers that be on this matter.  And I&#8217;d like to see the film.  In Silver Spring, MD we have the American Film Institute &#8212; perhaps they can be lobbied to show this film.  There are also a wide range of film festivals on a yearly basis, all of the country.  And perhaps the &#8220;PEN&#8221; organization &#8211; the writers group that created a lot of support for Rushdie in the late eighties &#8211; can be supportive.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.&quot;



And if they do &quot;wake up&quot; -- doesn&#039;t what lies ahead then make you shudder as well?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>And if they do &#8220;wake up&#8221; &#8212; doesn&#8217;t what lies ahead then make you shudder as well?</p>
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		<title>By: sport</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Islam: What the West Needs to Know and the question that you raise, Roger, the answers can be found in Tony Blankley&#039;s book, The West&#039;s Last Chance:  Will We Win the Clash of Civilizations?



I&#039;m reading it now, and by coincidence I happened to have read the part dealing with the questions you say are raised by the film--specifically, about moderate versus extremist Islam.  Chapter 3, The Threat, provides the answers and their not good.  They can be found in the words and actions of Moslims themselves, and Tony quotes them, line and verse.



I&#039;ve read several of the authors you&#039;ve cited, and so far in my reading of Blankley&#039;s his is one of the clearest expositions of the grave threat that faces Western civilization today and which, too many are oblivious to.



I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Islam: What the West Needs to Know and the question that you raise, Roger, the answers can be found in Tony Blankley&#8217;s book, The West&#8217;s Last Chance:  Will We Win the Clash of Civilizations?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading it now, and by coincidence I happened to have read the part dealing with the questions you say are raised by the film&#8211;specifically, about moderate versus extremist Islam.  Chapter 3, The Threat, provides the answers and their not good.  They can be found in the words and actions of Moslims themselves, and Tony quotes them, line and verse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read several of the authors you&#8217;ve cited, and so far in my reading of Blankley&#8217;s his is one of the clearest expositions of the grave threat that faces Western civilization today and which, too many are oblivious to.</p>
<p>I shudder to think what lies ahead for my children and grandchildren in the years ahead unless our politicians and the MSM wake up soon.</p>
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