Comments on: What to do about the new Axis of Evil? http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:17:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: stéphane paz http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73271 stéphane paz Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:04:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73271 Hello, Has somebody a contact e-mail for google corporates people ? I'd like to inform them that I'm now using a new search tool. Thanks. Lucane Hello,

Has somebody a contact e-mail for google corporates people ? I’d like to inform them that I’m now using a new search tool.

Thanks.
Lucane

]]> By: Maezeppa http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73270 Maezeppa Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:00:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73270 Oh, for crying out loud. At this time we need to support Google and OUR RIGHTS. Let the Chinese business wait. Oh, for crying out loud. At this time we need to support Google and OUR RIGHTS. Let the Chinese business wait.

]]> By: jill bryant http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73269 jill bryant Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:57:37 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73269 If this is the type of action you are talking about, shouldn't you be starting with WalMart? If this is the type of action you are talking about, shouldn’t you be starting with WalMart?

]]> By: BushHasDamnedUs http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73268 BushHasDamnedUs Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:19:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73268 "Since this is obviously a manifestation of corporate greed at its most unbridled, not to say cynically exploitive of (even, in a way, racist towards) the people of the most populace country on Earth, it's time to deal with Google in a manner that could actually affect the retrograde policy of the company. In other word, it's time for... ... a Google stock divestment campaign." Mr. Simon, you should do a little research before you post sensationalist crap like this. Google has done all that the Chinese government will allow, and then some. If someone does search for information on Tibetan independence or the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, a search page will come up with the headers for the results, thereby letting the user know there is information there that their government does not want them to see. Yahoo, MSN et al didn't even do that. Why don't you direct your venom at Cisco? They are the ones who designed and sold thousands of custom routers that enable the government to censor the internet and track down users that violate policies. This would qualify as "corporate greed at its most unbridled, not to say cynically exploitive". Poor research on your part, yes? “Since this is obviously a manifestation of corporate greed at its most unbridled, not to say cynically exploitive of (even, in a way, racist towards) the people of the most populace country on Earth, it’s time to deal with Google in a manner that could actually affect the retrograde policy of the company. In other word, it’s time for…

… a Google stock divestment campaign.”

Mr. Simon, you should do a little research before you post sensationalist crap like this.
Google has done all that the Chinese government will allow, and then some. If someone does search for information on Tibetan independence or the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, a search page will come up with the headers for the results, thereby letting the user know there is information there that their government does not want them to see. Yahoo, MSN et al didn’t even do that.
Why don’t you direct your venom at Cisco? They are the ones who designed and sold thousands of custom routers that enable the government to censor the internet and track down users that violate policies. This would qualify as “corporate greed at its most unbridled, not to say cynically exploitive”.
Poor research on your part, yes?

]]> By: incajones http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73267 incajones Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:30:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73267 Roger, The fact that you are not a current Google shareholder shouldn't stop you from selling google shares. As most people know, you can sell the stock short. If your idea come from a deep conviction, not just a ill-thoughtout rant, then I would hope that you short Google. If others feel the same way and either sell the stock or better yet, stop using google (which, by the way, you didn't espouse - although it is by far the most effective way to promote your view), the stock will go down, thereby confirming your stance, as well as putting money in your pocket. If the stock goes up, your conviction will be tested with real money. Will you sign up to this? Roger,

The fact that you are not a current Google shareholder shouldn’t stop you from selling google shares. As most people know, you can sell the stock short. If your idea come from a deep conviction, not just a ill-thoughtout rant, then I would hope that you short Google.

If others feel the same way and either sell the stock or better yet, stop using google (which, by the way, you didn’t espouse – although it is by far the most effective way to promote your view), the stock will go down, thereby confirming your stance, as well as putting money in your pocket. If the stock goes up, your conviction will be tested with real money. Will you sign up to this?

]]> By: nittypig http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73266 nittypig Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:29:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73266 The argument that Chinese users can go to Google.com is bogus. I know for a fact that, presumably to comply with Belgian laws, I cannot get to google.com from a Belgian IP address. So I'm almost certain that the chinese user needs to log on to a non-Chinese (and non-Belgian) IP address in order to access Google.com. This may not be so easy. The argument that Chinese users can go to Google.com is bogus. I know for a fact that, presumably to comply with Belgian laws, I cannot get to google.com from a Belgian IP address. So I’m almost certain that the chinese user needs to log on to a non-Chinese (and non-Belgian) IP address in order to access Google.com. This may not be so easy.

]]> By: clockwork bluejay http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73265 clockwork bluejay Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:44:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73265 (Full disclosure: I do not own any Google stock, but would, I'm assuming (?), have the courage of my convictions, if I did.) Assuming? assuming? I guess JFK wouldn't have picked you for Profiles in Courage II. (Full disclosure: I do not own any Google stock, but would, I’m assuming (?), have the courage of my convictions, if I did.)

Assuming? assuming?

I guess JFK wouldn’t have picked you for Profiles in Courage II.

]]> By: Pat Curley http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73264 Pat Curley Thu, 26 Jan 2006 07:25:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73264 There's an argument to be made that you have to comply with the laws of a country to do business in that country, regardless of how repugnant we may find the particular regime. And of course, it's not like Google is providing China with rocket engine technology. My personal belief is that the internet will not be able to be controlled from the China side any better than it has been here in the USA. Anything that gets more of them online will help bring down the regime. There’s an argument to be made that you have to comply with the laws of a country to do business in that country, regardless of how repugnant we may find the particular regime. And of course, it’s not like Google is providing China with rocket engine technology.

My personal belief is that the internet will not be able to be controlled from the China side any better than it has been here in the USA. Anything that gets more of them online will help bring down the regime.

]]> By: lindenen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73263 lindenen Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:43:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73263 I went to google.cn and got tons of info on Falungong and Tiananmen. Do you have to physically be in China to get censored results? I went to google.cn and got tons of info on Falungong and Tiananmen. Do you have to physically be in China to get censored results?

]]> By: Mescalero http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73262 Mescalero Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:12:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/01/25/what-to-do-about-the-new-axis-of-evil/#comment-73262 Roger-- I own stock in all of these companies. If you could supply me with the e-mail addresses of the appropriate corporate chairmen (or should I say women) I am more than willing to threaten stock-holder lawsuits and other, if necessary, action! Roger–

I own stock in all of these companies. If you could supply me with the e-mail addresses of the appropriate corporate chairmen (or should I say women) I am more than willing to threaten stock-holder lawsuits and other, if necessary, action!

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