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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It occurs to me this Purim eve that journalism would be much improved if Punk Sleazeburger and his entire editorial staff were hung by the neck from lampposts at Times Square like Haman and his sons.&quot;

Maybe the MSM should be threatened with just this until they come clean with why they&#039;ve chosen to demonize the Serbs continually for the last 20 years.  Lacking such a vivid reality, I think I&#039;ll make a point this year to read Rebecca West&#039;s &quot;Black Lamb and Grey Falcon&quot; to remind me of when journalists were professional and their writing inspired.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It occurs to me this Purim eve that journalism would be much improved if Punk Sleazeburger and his entire editorial staff were hung by the neck from lampposts at Times Square like Haman and his sons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe the MSM should be threatened with just this until they come clean with why they&#8217;ve chosen to demonize the Serbs continually for the last 20 years.  Lacking such a vivid reality, I think I&#8217;ll make a point this year to read Rebecca West&#8217;s &#8220;Black Lamb and Grey Falcon&#8221; to remind me of when journalists were professional and their writing inspired.</p>
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		<title>By: david72</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Hebe&#039;s with Coisty. The Slob and his people had a legitimate beef and they were thrown off the Western sled in the hope of appeasing Muslim wolves. That the Vatican sided against the Slob and his people is hardly surprising. The Romans have always sold out their Orthodox Christian bretheren to the Muslims. Others should have known better.

The Slob&#039;s methods weren&#039;t our methods but they fit right in with the local fashion in slaughter. His  prescription for dealing with mad dog Islamists was far more honest and effective than that of his ostensibly more civilized, less stalwart Western neighbors. Methinks Charles Martel just died in a UN jail cell. Who&#039;s left to defend European Christendom? Blair? Chirac? Merkel?

The rush by the NYT to assure us that there was no foul play involved in the Slob&#039;s passing is a hoot. It occurs to me this Purim eve that journalism would be much improved if Punk Sleazeburger and his entire editorial staff were hung by the neck from lampposts at Times Square like Haman and his sons.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Hebe&#8217;s with Coisty. The Slob and his people had a legitimate beef and they were thrown off the Western sled in the hope of appeasing Muslim wolves. That the Vatican sided against the Slob and his people is hardly surprising. The Romans have always sold out their Orthodox Christian bretheren to the Muslims. Others should have known better.</p>
<p>The Slob&#8217;s methods weren&#8217;t our methods but they fit right in with the local fashion in slaughter. His  prescription for dealing with mad dog Islamists was far more honest and effective than that of his ostensibly more civilized, less stalwart Western neighbors. Methinks Charles Martel just died in a UN jail cell. Who&#8217;s left to defend European Christendom? Blair? Chirac? Merkel?</p>
<p>The rush by the NYT to assure us that there was no foul play involved in the Slob&#8217;s passing is a hoot. It occurs to me this Purim eve that journalism would be much improved if Punk Sleazeburger and his entire editorial staff were hung by the neck from lampposts at Times Square like Haman and his sons.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should be flattered by Coisty&#039;s use of my material from another blog but I am not.

What I was trying to point out is not that Serbs were the &quot;white hats&quot; but that merely that our impressions of rights and wrongs were shaped, no more like warped, by the MSMs sympathies with the Muslims.  In many ways the Muslims in both Bosnia and Kosovo set the stage for the Arafat&#039;s manipulation of Western Public opinion to undermine Israel&#039;s legitimacy.  I did say that the European Man in the street will soon consider Milosevic and the Serbs heroes for standing up to Muslims.  I am a bit uncomfortable with Milosevic getting good press but the fact remains that the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo were successful in achieving dominance over Christians in the region.  The Balkans is the place where the modern clash of civilizations began. All I can say from personal experience and discussions with Canadian and British officers who served as Peacekeepers that what they tell me is substantially different then what I learned from the MSM.

I have come across a National Post article written in 2004 by Major General Lewis MacKenzie of the Canadian forces who commanded UNFOR in Bosnia in 19994.  It is instructive on how wrong are perceptions of the conflict were.

http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/apr04/hed6360.shtml

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should be flattered by Coisty&#8217;s use of my material from another blog but I am not.</p>
<p>What I was trying to point out is not that Serbs were the &#8220;white hats&#8221; but that merely that our impressions of rights and wrongs were shaped, no more like warped, by the MSMs sympathies with the Muslims.  In many ways the Muslims in both Bosnia and Kosovo set the stage for the Arafat&#8217;s manipulation of Western Public opinion to undermine Israel&#8217;s legitimacy.  I did say that the European Man in the street will soon consider Milosevic and the Serbs heroes for standing up to Muslims.  I am a bit uncomfortable with Milosevic getting good press but the fact remains that the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo were successful in achieving dominance over Christians in the region.  The Balkans is the place where the modern clash of civilizations began. All I can say from personal experience and discussions with Canadian and British officers who served as Peacekeepers that what they tell me is substantially different then what I learned from the MSM.</p>
<p>I have come across a National Post article written in 2004 by Major General Lewis MacKenzie of the Canadian forces who commanded UNFOR in Bosnia in 19994.  It is instructive on how wrong are perceptions of the conflict were.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/apr04/hed6360.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/apr04/hed6360.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Peters</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coisty:

Milosevic&#039;s Christianity is seriously in doubt. And if you want to compare the American soldiers work in Iraq to the Serbian Militia&#039;s activities  in Bosnia you have the right. But I think the comparison will not hold up to serious inspection.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coisty:</p>
<p>Milosevic&#8217;s Christianity is seriously in doubt. And if you want to compare the American soldiers work in Iraq to the Serbian Militia&#8217;s activities  in Bosnia you have the right. But I think the comparison will not hold up to serious inspection.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mocky?

Interesting to watch a thread where the moonbattery is about evenly distributed, though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mocky?</p>
<p>Interesting to watch a thread where the moonbattery is about evenly distributed, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Coisty</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Rosen: &lt;i&gt;Kevin,

You can rest assured that coisty, who likes to write about &quot;trotskyist neocons&quot; *was* taking a shot at Israel.&lt;/i&gt;

Gary Rosen is obviously paranoid. He takes offense at a mere reference to Israel but sees nothing wrong with referring to Serbs (the main victims of the Nazis in the Balkans) as fascists. It was Roger who claimed Serbs are fascists (has he even heard of Jasenovacs?).

Gary, you poor deluded child, if you deny the connection between Trotskyism and neoconservatism then you are an ignoramus. That is not to say that neoconservatism is completely useless - it is not ALL about moronic wars for &quot;democracy&quot;. Some neocons are at the forefront in the battle against Islamofascism - though obviously Iraq has nothing to do with that. The problem is that most of them, like Trotsky, believe in universal wars for universal values. In other words they are fools with no understanding of human nature. Sadly 2300 Americans, 100 Brits and many thousands of Iraqis have had to die to show that neoconservative ideology is nonsense. The war in Iraq is lost and all but the most deluded (like the laughable Ralph Peters) know it.

I&#039;m wondering what the advocates of an &quot;idealistic foreign policy&quot; will say if the Kosovo talks break down and there is another war. Bill Kristol said publicly that the US should &quot;crush Serb skulls&quot; back in 1998-9 because Serbs weren&#039;t willing to be pushed around by the &quot;international community&quot;. The Israelis, understandably, won&#039;t be pushed around by the thinly veiled pro-Palestinian Tranzis either. Will Bill Kristol call for the crushing of Jewish skulls? I doubt it. What about you Gary? Do you want to crush the skulls of Serbian Christians too?

When people who were leftists only a few years ago dismiss Western Christians, like the Serbian nation, as fascists those of us of a Christian background must speak up. I&#039;d be curious to know what the Serb-haters really think about the American soldiers in Iraq. Are they Christian fascists too?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Rosen: <i>Kevin,</p>
<p>You can rest assured that coisty, who likes to write about &#8220;trotskyist neocons&#8221; *was* taking a shot at Israel.</i></p>
<p>Gary Rosen is obviously paranoid. He takes offense at a mere reference to Israel but sees nothing wrong with referring to Serbs (the main victims of the Nazis in the Balkans) as fascists. It was Roger who claimed Serbs are fascists (has he even heard of Jasenovacs?).</p>
<p>Gary, you poor deluded child, if you deny the connection between Trotskyism and neoconservatism then you are an ignoramus. That is not to say that neoconservatism is completely useless &#8211; it is not ALL about moronic wars for &#8220;democracy&#8221;. Some neocons are at the forefront in the battle against Islamofascism &#8211; though obviously Iraq has nothing to do with that. The problem is that most of them, like Trotsky, believe in universal wars for universal values. In other words they are fools with no understanding of human nature. Sadly 2300 Americans, 100 Brits and many thousands of Iraqis have had to die to show that neoconservative ideology is nonsense. The war in Iraq is lost and all but the most deluded (like the laughable Ralph Peters) know it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what the advocates of an &#8220;idealistic foreign policy&#8221; will say if the Kosovo talks break down and there is another war. Bill Kristol said publicly that the US should &#8220;crush Serb skulls&#8221; back in 1998-9 because Serbs weren&#8217;t willing to be pushed around by the &#8220;international community&#8221;. The Israelis, understandably, won&#8217;t be pushed around by the thinly veiled pro-Palestinian Tranzis either. Will Bill Kristol call for the crushing of Jewish skulls? I doubt it. What about you Gary? Do you want to crush the skulls of Serbian Christians too?</p>
<p>When people who were leftists only a few years ago dismiss Western Christians, like the Serbian nation, as fascists those of us of a Christian background must speak up. I&#8217;d be curious to know what the Serb-haters really think about the American soldiers in Iraq. Are they Christian fascists too?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick S Lasswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick S Lasswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studying history is a tremendous joy because you get to actually watch the changes happening.

Remember the movie &quot;Wag the Dog?&quot;  For a time it was plausible that a movie producer could manipulate a fake war to cover a blown presidency.  Figure the odds anybody would buy that movie&#039;s premise today, 18 months after the blogosphere chewed Dan Rather to shreds.

The more important point of the movie was that a bunch of anti-war leftists put it together to oppose Clinton.  Those same anti-war leftists are still doing everything they can to oppose freedom brought by Bush.

I remember getting really pissed watching &quot;Wag the Dog&quot; with my family because it was so insulting to the US military, implying that they were nothing more than lapdogs for their political masters.  Ignoring history is the first step to being part of the anti-war movement, dismissing honor is the second.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studying history is a tremendous joy because you get to actually watch the changes happening.</p>
<p>Remember the movie &#8220;Wag the Dog?&#8221;  For a time it was plausible that a movie producer could manipulate a fake war to cover a blown presidency.  Figure the odds anybody would buy that movie&#8217;s premise today, 18 months after the blogosphere chewed Dan Rather to shreds.</p>
<p>The more important point of the movie was that a bunch of anti-war leftists put it together to oppose Clinton.  Those same anti-war leftists are still doing everything they can to oppose freedom brought by Bush.</p>
<p>I remember getting really pissed watching &#8220;Wag the Dog&#8221; with my family because it was so insulting to the US military, implying that they were nothing more than lapdogs for their political masters.  Ignoring history is the first step to being part of the anti-war movement, dismissing honor is the second.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra von Maltzan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra von Maltzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Things Beautiful TrackBack &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/all_things_beautiful/2006/03/slobodan_milose.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slobodan Milosevic &#039;The Butcher Of The Balkans&#039;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Things Beautiful TrackBack <a href="http://www.allthingsbeautiful.com/all_things_beautiful/2006/03/slobodan_milose.html" rel="nofollow">Slobodan Milosevic &#8216;The Butcher Of The Balkans&#8217;</a></p>
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		<title>By: gumshoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my personal views,
(i imagine,like many americans),
the history of the Balkans
was(and remains)
too byzantine and convoluted for many of us
to sort out the ethnic rivalries
and historical grievances.

i tried for a time,
but couldn&#039;t grasp what the basic
conflict(s) were about,
except to view it as evidence
of &quot;Islam&#039;s Bloody Borders&quot;.

that Europe seemed o take so little interest in the events at the time was both baffling and alarming.

as several here have pointed out,
some of the Balkans events were generated
by the Soviet Union&#039;s collapse
and the power vacuum that left behind.

the recent rumblings about
Putin,Venona,McCarthy,
Castro,Chavez+Ahmadingdong,etc.
are evidence to me that
there&#039;s a substantial stretch of the Cold War that&#039;s not been completely put to bed.

the symbiosis of the Mahdi-Mad
and the Glorious-Socialist-Utopia types
seems to indicate more of the same,
from my biased viewpoint.

the messy reality is that the collapse
of the bi-polar/super-power world
has not been an unmitigated good.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my personal views,<br />
(i imagine,like many americans),<br />
the history of the Balkans<br />
was(and remains)<br />
too byzantine and convoluted for many of us<br />
to sort out the ethnic rivalries<br />
and historical grievances.</p>
<p>i tried for a time,<br />
but couldn&#8217;t grasp what the basic<br />
conflict(s) were about,<br />
except to view it as evidence<br />
of &#8220;Islam&#8217;s Bloody Borders&#8221;.</p>
<p>that Europe seemed o take so little interest in the events at the time was both baffling and alarming.</p>
<p>as several here have pointed out,<br />
some of the Balkans events were generated<br />
by the Soviet Union&#8217;s collapse<br />
and the power vacuum that left behind.</p>
<p>the recent rumblings about<br />
Putin,Venona,McCarthy,<br />
Castro,Chavez+Ahmadingdong,etc.<br />
are evidence to me that<br />
there&#8217;s a substantial stretch of the Cold War that&#8217;s not been completely put to bed.</p>
<p>the symbiosis of the Mahdi-Mad<br />
and the Glorious-Socialist-Utopia types<br />
seems to indicate more of the same,<br />
from my biased viewpoint.</p>
<p>the messy reality is that the collapse<br />
of the bi-polar/super-power world<br />
has not been an unmitigated good.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Rosen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

You can rest assured that coisty, who likes to write about &quot;trotskyist neocons&quot; *was* taking a shot at Israel.  Kinda like Pat Buchanan, who recently referred to David Brooks as &quot;cosmopolitan&quot;.

These code words aren&#039;t code words any more.  Might as well just use kike, mocky and sheeny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>You can rest assured that coisty, who likes to write about &#8220;trotskyist neocons&#8221; *was* taking a shot at Israel.  Kinda like Pat Buchanan, who recently referred to David Brooks as &#8220;cosmopolitan&#8221;.</p>
<p>These code words aren&#8217;t code words any more.  Might as well just use kike, mocky and sheeny.</p>
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