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		<title>By: david72</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad for the Jews of France but nothing new. The Jewish communityóeven here in America in more traditional corners--is the only place where passing reference to flight capital and such doesnít raise eyebrows. Too bad Churchill isnít alive to intone that the lights are going out all over Europe.

I do not mean to belittle the troubles of my brothers and sisters in France, a community that long predates many of those who call themselves Gaulois. (French scholars turn to the writings of the ancient rabbis of Provence to read descriptions of how their beloved French language was pronounced a thousand years ago.) But Iím not one for gívaltism.  My grandparents uncles and cousinsóthose who survivedóhad no opportunity to make arrangements. They left everything behind.

That the Gaulois are more than happy to see their Hebrew neighbors depart is more a tragedy for them than for the departing Hebrews. These are, after all, the last of their kind in France. Their more realistic, less Francophile brethren have been leaving for years. The Hebrews who remain are the fools who truly love France. As that fool in French uniform Dryfus once loved her.

But when these Jews will be settling into new lives in Montreal, and elsewhere where freedomís light yet burns, the Gaulois will be studying Sharia 101 in madrassa reeducation camps.

The debate over immigration now roiling congress may soon take an ominous turn. Any day now, Frenchmen in their millions will notice that the disgusting albeit not uninteresting stench wafting up from the wine cellar appears to have left the canary cold and stiff at the bottom of its cage.  Can the United States handle the human tsunami that follows? Mass migration from Europe?

Strategically speaking, can we Americans allow ourselves to be overwhelmed by a huge, reflexively dependent, enterprise and entrepreneurship averse refugee horde brought to our shores only for lack of courage and commitment to democracy?

Our best bet is to work out an agreement with Canada and Australia to immediately suspend immigration from Europe. If Muslim bombs, fires, torture and murder canít rouse the Europeans, maybe pulling in the welcome mat will.

We bore the cost of Europeís defense for the entire twentieth century. To have civilized Europeans cave to Twelfth Century primitives without a fight on the assumption they can eventually jump ship for America and Australia is not acceptable. We have no shortage of socially and morally corrosive weaklings of our own and our workers donít need competition from a spineless, unambitious  socialist mob of riot-prone foreigners.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad for the Jews of France but nothing new. The Jewish communityóeven here in America in more traditional corners&#8211;is the only place where passing reference to flight capital and such doesnít raise eyebrows. Too bad Churchill isnít alive to intone that the lights are going out all over Europe.</p>
<p>I do not mean to belittle the troubles of my brothers and sisters in France, a community that long predates many of those who call themselves Gaulois. (French scholars turn to the writings of the ancient rabbis of Provence to read descriptions of how their beloved French language was pronounced a thousand years ago.) But Iím not one for gívaltism.  My grandparents uncles and cousinsóthose who survivedóhad no opportunity to make arrangements. They left everything behind.</p>
<p>That the Gaulois are more than happy to see their Hebrew neighbors depart is more a tragedy for them than for the departing Hebrews. These are, after all, the last of their kind in France. Their more realistic, less Francophile brethren have been leaving for years. The Hebrews who remain are the fools who truly love France. As that fool in French uniform Dryfus once loved her.</p>
<p>But when these Jews will be settling into new lives in Montreal, and elsewhere where freedomís light yet burns, the Gaulois will be studying Sharia 101 in madrassa reeducation camps.</p>
<p>The debate over immigration now roiling congress may soon take an ominous turn. Any day now, Frenchmen in their millions will notice that the disgusting albeit not uninteresting stench wafting up from the wine cellar appears to have left the canary cold and stiff at the bottom of its cage.  Can the United States handle the human tsunami that follows? Mass migration from Europe?</p>
<p>Strategically speaking, can we Americans allow ourselves to be overwhelmed by a huge, reflexively dependent, enterprise and entrepreneurship averse refugee horde brought to our shores only for lack of courage and commitment to democracy?</p>
<p>Our best bet is to work out an agreement with Canada and Australia to immediately suspend immigration from Europe. If Muslim bombs, fires, torture and murder canít rouse the Europeans, maybe pulling in the welcome mat will.</p>
<p>We bore the cost of Europeís defense for the entire twentieth century. To have civilized Europeans cave to Twelfth Century primitives without a fight on the assumption they can eventually jump ship for America and Australia is not acceptable. We have no shortage of socially and morally corrosive weaklings of our own and our workers donít need competition from a spineless, unambitious  socialist mob of riot-prone foreigners.</p>
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		<title>By: photoncourier.blogspot.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cynic...but wasn&#039;t arrogance and stupidity characteristic of *all* the WWI high commands? (with the possible exception of the American, who had had the opportunity of observing the others for several years)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cynic&#8230;but wasn&#8217;t arrogance and stupidity characteristic of *all* the WWI high commands? (with the possible exception of the American, who had had the opportunity of observing the others for several years)</p>
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		<title>By: ganzo azul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Michael Haneke&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/cache&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cache&lt;/a&gt; yesterday afternoon.  It&#039;s an unnerving portrait of France&#039;s bien-pensants, you see their fear, guilt, denial, obstinacy, rationalizations, passiveness. Like the overt racism portrayed in Crash, I&#039;d like to believe that Cache reflects an introspection and cultural shift that is well underway in France.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Michael Haneke&#8217;s <a href="http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/cache" rel="nofollow">Cache</a> yesterday afternoon.  It&#8217;s an unnerving portrait of France&#8217;s bien-pensants, you see their fear, guilt, denial, obstinacy, rationalizations, passiveness. Like the overt racism portrayed in Crash, I&#8217;d like to believe that Cache reflects an introspection and cultural shift that is well underway in France.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;... but the truth about France&#039;s tremendous losses in WWI should be respected. &quot;

One respects the sacrifice of the individuals but not French haughtiness, arrogance that resulted in those terrible losses.
The total stupidity on the part of the Officer Corps is a reflection of the attitude of the French &quot;Elite&quot; which has led to the morass they find themselves in.
I don&#039;t know if there was a French attempt to understand what really happened in the Great War but &quot;The Donkeys&quot; was a British attempt at explaining.

Roger&#039;s Apropos reminds me of a discussion some 30 odd years ago about research papers and why some French research was simply &quot;reinventing the wheel&quot;.
The answer was revealed by showing that the French  demanded that the foreign research be submitted in French whereas in other countries papers in all languages were received and appropriately translated for faculty members.

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<p>&#8220;&#8230; but the truth about France&#8217;s tremendous losses in WWI should be respected. &#8221;</p>
<p>One respects the sacrifice of the individuals but not French haughtiness, arrogance that resulted in those terrible losses.<br />
The total stupidity on the part of the Officer Corps is a reflection of the attitude of the French &#8220;Elite&#8221; which has led to the morass they find themselves in.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if there was a French attempt to understand what really happened in the Great War but &#8220;The Donkeys&#8221; was a British attempt at explaining.</p>
<p>Roger&#8217;s Apropos reminds me of a discussion some 30 odd years ago about research papers and why some French research was simply &#8220;reinventing the wheel&#8221;.<br />
The answer was revealed by showing that the French  demanded that the foreign research be submitted in French whereas in other countries papers in all languages were received and appropriately translated for faculty members.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was certainly a great choice for at least the one spy attribute -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_Inayat_Khan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not talking&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;The princess was taken to Germany and imprisoned at Pforzheim in solitary confinement (she was considered dangerous and uncooperative). Inayat Khan continued to refuse to give any information on her work or her fellow operatives.

On 11 September 1944, Noor Inayat Khan, along with three other SOE agents, Yolande Beekman, Eliane Plewman and Madeleine Damerment, were moved to Dachau Concentration Camp. The other three women were lined up and forced to kneel, after which each was executed by a single shot to the head. Noor was shackled in chains for months and beaten until she was a bloody mess and then shot. Her last word was &quot;LibertÈ.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Brave, brave women.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was certainly a great choice for at least the one spy attribute &#8212; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_Inayat_Khan" rel="nofollow">not talking</a>:</p>
<p><i>The princess was taken to Germany and imprisoned at Pforzheim in solitary confinement (she was considered dangerous and uncooperative). Inayat Khan continued to refuse to give any information on her work or her fellow operatives.</p>
<p>On 11 September 1944, Noor Inayat Khan, along with three other SOE agents, Yolande Beekman, Eliane Plewman and Madeleine Damerment, were moved to Dachau Concentration Camp. The other three women were lined up and forced to kneel, after which each was executed by a single shot to the head. Noor was shackled in chains for months and beaten until she was a bloody mess and then shot. Her last word was &#8220;LibertÈ.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Brave, brave women.</p>
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		<title>By: beautifulatrocities</title>
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		<dc:creator>beautifulatrocities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noor Khan aka Madeleine was actually born in the Kremlin in 1914, her father a Sufi mystic invited to Russia by Rasputin. They wisely fled to England before the revolution, &amp; later moved to Paris. When the Nazis overran France, she escaped on the last boat evacuating British subjects, then returned to France secretly in 1943 as a RAF spy. She was very brave, altho she was so exotic she was probably not a great choice for a spy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noor Khan aka Madeleine was actually born in the Kremlin in 1914, her father a Sufi mystic invited to Russia by Rasputin. They wisely fled to England before the revolution, &amp; later moved to Paris. When the Nazis overran France, she escaped on the last boat evacuating British subjects, then returned to France secretly in 1943 as a RAF spy. She was very brave, altho she was so exotic she was probably not a great choice for a spy</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger:
Ah, poor pathetic Chirac. Instead of taking the actions that are required to earn respect and admiration from the world community he picks puny and childish symbolic protests to give the impression of strength. Did he threaten to hold his breath too?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger:<br />
Ah, poor pathetic Chirac. Instead of taking the actions that are required to earn respect and admiration from the world community he picks puny and childish symbolic protests to give the impression of strength. Did he threaten to hold his breath too?</p>
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		<title>By: photoncourier.blogspot.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy Larsen, glad you mentioned Violette Szabo and Noor Inayat Khan: two women who very definitely deserve to be remembered. One minor clarification: Leo Marks originally wrote the poem for his then-girlfriend, who was killed in a plane crash. He gave it to Violette after she was having trouble memorizing her original poem-code.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy Larsen, glad you mentioned Violette Szabo and Noor Inayat Khan: two women who very definitely deserve to be remembered. One minor clarification: Leo Marks originally wrote the poem for his then-girlfriend, who was killed in a plane crash. He gave it to Violette after she was having trouble memorizing her original poem-code.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s literally impossible to hold in mind the thought of European culture and the mid 20th century expression of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s literally impossible to hold in mind the thought of European culture and the mid 20th century expression of it.</p>
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		<title>By: beautifulatrocities</title>
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		<dc:creator>beautifulatrocities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The French-Arab connection goes back over a century, to France&#039;s Arab colonies. Post WWII, de Galle sought to build a French-Arab axis to rival the British - US alliance (a move supported by many ex-Vichy antisemites). And France led the way in truckling to the Arab regimes&#039; demonizing of Israel &amp; fawning over Yassir Arafat to secure cheap sources of oil, workers, &amp; to triangulate against the US.

And Paris has always been very anti-semitic; there&#039;s no difference between Nazi ideology that Jews were the source of the world&#039;s problems, &amp; the current depraved intellectual current that Israel is the source of all the world&#039;s problems, a position fomented by Arabs &amp; eagerly promulgated by European elites.

Now, however, the tail is wagging the dog, &amp; France&#039;s kowtowing to Islam looks more like dhimmitude in exchange for (temporary) exemption from Muslim terror.

All this chronicled in Eurabia by Bat Ye&#039;or
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The French-Arab connection goes back over a century, to France&#8217;s Arab colonies. Post WWII, de Galle sought to build a French-Arab axis to rival the British &#8211; US alliance (a move supported by many ex-Vichy antisemites). And France led the way in truckling to the Arab regimes&#8217; demonizing of Israel &amp; fawning over Yassir Arafat to secure cheap sources of oil, workers, &amp; to triangulate against the US.</p>
<p>And Paris has always been very anti-semitic; there&#8217;s no difference between Nazi ideology that Jews were the source of the world&#8217;s problems, &amp; the current depraved intellectual current that Israel is the source of all the world&#8217;s problems, a position fomented by Arabs &amp; eagerly promulgated by European elites.</p>
<p>Now, however, the tail is wagging the dog, &amp; France&#8217;s kowtowing to Islam looks more like dhimmitude in exchange for (temporary) exemption from Muslim terror.</p>
<p>All this chronicled in Eurabia by Bat Ye&#8217;or</p>
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