Comments on: Arrivederci, Silvio! (and Bonjour Tristesse for Dominique) http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:17:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Pooh http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76884 Pooh Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:31:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76884 Roger L Simon writes: "and Bonjour Tristesse for Dominique" Oh-la-la! Monsieur Roger, he show his advancing years. But yes, this novel c'est vraiment bon. 1953 it was a year magnifique: The Etas-Unis she develop hydrogen bomb; Joseph Stalin pop his clogs as we say in France; Jonas Salk announce his polio vaccine bringing the world one step closer to total domination by les juifs; most importantly, Francoise Sagan write Bonjour Tristesse. You can buy it here: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0066211697/sr=8-1/qid=1144710576/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6896552-6080106?%5Fencoding=UTF8" rel="nofollow"> Bonjour Tristesse at Amazon</a> Roger L Simon writes:

“and Bonjour Tristesse for Dominique”

Oh-la-la! Monsieur Roger, he show his advancing years. But yes, this novel c’est vraiment bon. 1953 it was a year magnifique: The Etas-Unis she develop hydrogen bomb; Joseph Stalin pop his clogs as we say in France; Jonas Salk announce his polio vaccine bringing the world one step closer to total domination by les juifs; most importantly, Francoise Sagan write Bonjour Tristesse.

You can buy it here:

Bonjour Tristesse at Amazon

]]> By: dclydew http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76883 dclydew Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:18:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76883 "Now would be the time that the employers start walking off the job. "Here are the keys, have a blast. We're gone."" Heh, nice comment Godzilla. Interesting isn't it? A thousand years ago, the employer was put in place by God and the employed were peasents. With the advent of the Industrial Age, the employed took the stance you mentioned and suddenly got treated like humans (or at least less like serfs). And now, the employers seem to have fallen towards serfdom (compliance with myrriads of rules and regulations that have nothing to do with the useful operation of business) while the employed have begun to trend toward insane demands. Wouldn't it be neat if humans treated each other like humans... I recall that one fellow recommended that and got nailed to some timber for his trouble... with all the people that claim to follw his ideas, you'd think we'd get somewhere further than this mess. ;-) “Now would be the time that the employers start walking off the job. “Here are the keys, have a blast. We’re gone.”"

Heh, nice comment Godzilla.

Interesting isn’t it? A thousand years ago, the employer was put in place by God and the employed were peasents. With the advent of the Industrial Age, the employed took the stance you mentioned and suddenly got treated like humans (or at least less like serfs).

And now, the employers seem to have fallen towards serfdom (compliance with myrriads of rules and regulations that have nothing to do with the useful operation of business) while the employed have begun to trend toward insane demands.

Wouldn’t it be neat if humans treated each other like humans… I recall that one fellow recommended that and got nailed to some timber for his trouble… with all the people that claim to follw his ideas, you’d think we’d get somewhere further than this mess. ;-)

]]> By: jaafar http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76882 jaafar Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:16:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76882 Oh, that comment about Ayn Rand is eerie. But that's the developing situation, isn't it? "Employers" risk everything, and "employees" risk nothing. The situation in France is scary indeed, with the manicured rich boys "rioting" for their "right" to lifetime employment. Oh, that comment about Ayn Rand is eerie.

But that’s the developing situation, isn’t it? “Employers” risk everything, and “employees” risk nothing. The situation in France is scary indeed, with the manicured rich boys “rioting” for their “right” to lifetime employment.

]]> By: Godzilla http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76881 Godzilla Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:42:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76881 The events surrounding the French jobs law and the riots seem straight out of an Ayn Rand novel. Now would be the time that the employers start walking off the job. "Here are the keys, have a blast. We're gone." The events surrounding the French jobs law and the riots seem straight out of an Ayn Rand novel. Now would be the time that the employers start walking off the job. “Here are the keys, have a blast. We’re gone.”

]]> By: flenser http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76880 flenser Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:26:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76880 Say what you will about the French, but at least when they cave in to mobs of demonstrators, they cave in to mobs of their own citizens. Say what you will about the French, but at least when they cave in to mobs of demonstrators, they cave in to mobs of their own citizens.

]]> By: lindenen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76879 lindenen Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:59:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76879 France isn't a democracy. Democracies are more than rule by the latest mob gathered on the street. France isn’t a democracy. Democracies are more than rule by the latest mob gathered on the street.

]]> By: syn http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76878 syn Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:26:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76878 More importanly, how much of an effect will this form of mob rule have over our own Democracy? Will ANSWER/World Workers Party's communist influence strike a fatal blow to free market capitalist America by staging rallies using emotional blackmail to sway public opinion? The progressive left couldn't kill us with their anti-war theatrics but they may have a chance using millions of illegal aliens as the sword to carry out their attack. The Left has already established among the minds of the mob that 'illegal is legal regardless of the law', Republicans are racist bigots who hate brown people, and the Catholic Church can be used to advocate the Left's political agenda (where are advocates for separation of Church and State? Oh I forgot, they're the ones organizing the rallies). More importanly, how much of an effect will this form of mob rule have over our own Democracy? Will ANSWER/World Workers Party’s communist influence strike a fatal blow to free market capitalist America by staging rallies using emotional blackmail to sway public opinion?

The progressive left couldn’t kill us with their anti-war theatrics but they may have a chance using millions of illegal aliens as the sword to carry out their attack. The Left has already established among the minds of the mob that ‘illegal is legal regardless of the law’, Republicans are racist bigots who hate brown people, and the Catholic Church can be used to advocate the Left’s political agenda (where are advocates for separation of Church and State? Oh I forgot, they’re the ones organizing the rallies).

]]> By: beautifulatrocities http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76877 beautifulatrocities Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:24:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76877 I recently met an Italian, a grad student here at Berkeley. He was intelligent & educated, & of course against the Iraq War & George Bush, etc. So I asked him a few questions, & it was clear that not only did he know nothing about Gulf Wars I or II, Oil for Fraud, Hussein's Iraq, etc, he had never even given it any thought. He just came from Europe where the media feeds up a monolithic, pro-Arab p.o.v., & he swallowed it whole. The funny thing is, he thought he was VERY informed, yet he was incapable of constructing a coherent argument without resorting to red herrings or changing the subject, because he'd never heard such views challenged anywhere. I recently met an Italian, a grad student here at Berkeley. He was intelligent & educated, & of course against the Iraq War & George Bush, etc. So I asked him a few questions, & it was clear that not only did he know nothing about Gulf Wars I or II, Oil for Fraud, Hussein’s Iraq, etc, he had never even given it any thought. He just came from Europe where the media feeds up a monolithic, pro-Arab p.o.v., & he swallowed it whole.

The funny thing is, he thought he was VERY informed, yet he was incapable of constructing a coherent argument without resorting to red herrings or changing the subject, because he’d never heard such views challenged anywhere.

]]> By: jaafar http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76876 jaafar Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:57:27 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76876 Gosh, we're suddenly believing in exit polls again? After all, 2004 was SO LONG AGO! :-0 Gosh, we’re suddenly believing in exit polls again?

After all, 2004 was SO LONG AGO! :-0

]]> By: Kevin Peters http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76875 Kevin Peters Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:52:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/10/arrivederci-silvio-and-bonjour-tristesse-for-dominique/#comment-76875 Roger: We won, we saved our employment rights, we stopped the government, we own the streets!!!!!!! We get to keep the system that keeps us on the dole, we won't get any jobs, our unemployment rate will stay at 22%, we get to protest again in 1 year over the fact that we are depressed because we can't get a job, we get to rationalize burning cars because we have a high unemployment rate, we get to continue the fight to keep the status qou and then protest that the status qou is not working. We are the new rhetorical schizophrenics, revolutionists and reactioniary at the same time. We won!!! Strange victory. Roger:

We won, we saved our employment rights, we stopped the government, we own the streets!!!!!!! We get to keep the system that keeps us on the dole, we won’t get any jobs, our unemployment rate will stay at 22%, we get to protest again in 1 year over the fact that we are depressed because we can’t get a job, we get to rationalize burning cars because we have a high unemployment rate, we get to continue the fight to keep the status qou and then protest that the status qou is not working. We are the new rhetorical schizophrenics, revolutionists and reactioniary at the same time. We won!!! Strange victory.

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