Comments on: Playing Freud with Hiltzik http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:06:12 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: dchamil http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77316 dchamil Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:53:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77316 I just want to say that dchamil has the most splendid, insightful, thoughtful, and remarkable comments that have ever appeared on the face of the internet. And that is my honest opinion. I just want to say that dchamil has the most splendid, insightful, thoughtful, and remarkable comments that have ever appeared on the face of the internet. And that is my honest opinion.

]]> By: Kevin Peters http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77315 Kevin Peters Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:48:08 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77315 Roger: How's this for irony. Earlier this week in the USC Annenberg Online Journalism review Hiltzig had this to say when he was asked whether he had an editor for his blog- "I think essentially they trusted me to know where the limits were" DOH! Roger:
How’s this for irony. Earlier this week in the USC Annenberg Online Journalism review Hiltzig had this to say when he was asked whether he had an editor for his blog- “I think essentially they trusted me to know where the limits were”

DOH!

]]> By: Greg D http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77314 Greg D Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:36:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77314 IMHO, the best part about this was his "reply" to Patterico. He writes a post that completely distorts what Patterico said, and then provides a link so that people can go and see how dishonest he's been. This guy is a perfect demonstration of the dishonesty of the MSM. They're used to being able to say whatever they want about someone, and for that someone not to be able to respond. The idea that the news consumers can go and get the facts, regardless of the distortions the MSM has imposed, just hasn't penetrated their skulls. Which is why they keep on getting their butts kicked. IMHO, the best part about this was his “reply” to Patterico. He writes a post that completely distorts what Patterico said, and then provides a link so that people can go and see how dishonest he’s been. This guy is a perfect demonstration of the dishonesty of the MSM. They’re used to being able to say whatever they want about someone, and for that someone not to be able to respond. The idea that the news consumers can go and get the facts, regardless of the distortions the MSM has imposed, just hasn’t penetrated their skulls.

Which is why they keep on getting their butts kicked.

]]> By: Larry J http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77313 Larry J Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:14:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77313 This is an example of why the Press is falling into such disfavor. How can I or anyone else read anything he has written and not believe that any "unnamed sources" were made up, too? This is an example of why the Press is falling into such disfavor. How can I or anyone else read anything he has written and not believe that any “unnamed sources” were made up, too?

]]> By: Mikey http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77312 Mikey Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:08:59 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77312 Of course, what isn't being said is that a man of his age and accomplishment had imaginary "friends". Think about what that says about him. And no, an Elwood Dowd reference does not help him because Harvey was real and Elwood wasn't a jerk. Of course, what isn’t being said is that a man of his age and accomplishment had imaginary “friends”. Think about what that says about him.

And no, an Elwood Dowd reference does not help him because Harvey was real and Elwood wasn’t a jerk.

]]> By: Godzilla http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77311 Godzilla Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:30:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77311 The <a href="http://goldenstateblog.latimes.com/goldenstate/2006/04/the_times_has_s.html" rel="nofollow">link</a> to Hiltzik's blog. The link to Hiltzik’s blog.

]]> By: Godzilla http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77310 Godzilla Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:29:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77310 Considering the content of the last post on Hiltzik's blog, I think his friends better put him on a suicide watch. In the real world, he has seriously damaged his one true identity. Considering the content of the last post on Hiltzik’s blog, I think his friends better put him on a suicide watch. In the real world, he has seriously damaged his one true identity.

]]> By: Ron http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77309 Ron Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:09:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77309 The Democrats are going to have to do a house cleaning eventually or they will become the minority party forever. They have to get back to mainstream thinking or they are finished as a power in this country for no longer is the propaganda machines of the main stream media listened to with the reverence they once had; every one knows they are tools of the progressive/loony left and those with a modicum of intelligence looks elsewhere for truth. Give me a party of Zell Millers and Harry Trumans the party of my youth and I would consider a party change, give me a Democrat Party that I don't have to worry if its patriotic. Give me a party that doesn't see millions of illegals streaming across the border as potential voters rather than law breakers. Give me a party whose presidential candidates military history is still shrouded in mystery because he won't release the records after more than a year from when he said that he would. I'm tired of the straight jacket of the Teacher's Union and George Soros's conniving, I'm tired of trying to figure out the real plan that they have for this country, the one they dare speak aloud. The Democrats are going to have to do a house cleaning eventually or they will become the minority party forever. They have to get back to mainstream thinking or they are finished as a power in this country for no longer is the propaganda machines of the main stream media listened to with the reverence they once had; every one knows they are tools of the progressive/loony left and those with a modicum of intelligence looks elsewhere for truth. Give me a party of Zell Millers and Harry Trumans the party of my youth and I would consider a party change, give me a Democrat Party that I don’t have to worry if its patriotic. Give me a party that doesn’t see millions of illegals streaming across the border as potential voters rather than law breakers. Give me a party whose presidential candidates military history is still shrouded in mystery because he won’t release the records after more than a year from when he said that he would. I’m tired of the straight jacket of the Teacher’s Union and George Soros’s conniving, I’m tired of trying to figure out the real plan that they have for this country, the one they dare speak aloud.

]]> By: Knucklehead http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77308 Knucklehead Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:08:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77308 This guy gets <a href="http://www.the-ocean.com/looney/sounds/embesal.wav" rel="nofollow">The Award</a> This guy gets The Award

]]> By: Kevin Peters http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77307 Kevin Peters Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:51:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/04/21/playing-freud-with-hiltzik/#comment-77307 Jedury: Stern is accussed of blackmail and may have broken a federal law. The courts will handle this case. The LAT has specific protocols regarding how Times writers can or can't use false id's when writing for the paper or other forms of media. So far, unless Hilziks denies what he has been accused of, he has violated the letter and the spirit of those internal rules. The Times will decide whether or not to retain his services. They will have to judge what damage Hilzik has done to the integrity of their paper. One of the factors they will have to take into account is how Hilzik, once he was caught, responded to the charges. His last post on the blog was a lame defense where he tried to atttack Patterco for hypocrisy for attacking phoney id tags when he had made a specific point in his post that he had no problem with bloggers not using their names when blogging. His response was dishonest and a attempt to misrepresent what he did and what Patterico was charging him with. In a nutshell Hilzik was trying to fool his readers by having conversations with himself and presenting them as multiple points of view. Fake but accurate. This is not a crime. But it is a major problem for any blog or newspaper that wants it's readers to trust what is written on their screen or page. Jedury:
Stern is accussed of blackmail and may have broken a federal law. The courts will handle this case. The LAT has specific protocols regarding how Times writers can or can’t use false id’s when writing for the paper or other forms of media. So far, unless Hilziks denies what he has been accused of, he has violated the letter and the spirit of those internal rules.

The Times will decide whether or not to retain his services. They will have to judge what damage Hilzik has done to the integrity of their paper. One of the factors they will have to take into account is how Hilzik, once he was caught, responded to the charges. His last post on the blog was a lame defense where he tried to atttack Patterco for hypocrisy for attacking phoney id tags when he had made a specific point in his post that he had no problem with bloggers not using their names when blogging. His response was dishonest and a attempt to misrepresent what he did and what Patterico was charging him with.

In a nutshell Hilzik was trying to fool his readers by having conversations with himself and presenting them as multiple points of view. Fake but accurate. This is not a crime. But it is a major problem for any blog or newspaper that wants it’s readers to trust what is written on their screen or page.

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