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		<title>By: astoriaChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>astoriaChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s rare for anyone to apologize these days for anything, so props to Roger for doing so. Especially since he did nothing worse than making a snotty comment.

For those of you heaping abuse on Kos for his &quot;screw &#039;em&quot; comment, here is his explanation for it: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/2/175739/8203&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/2/175739/8203&lt;/a&gt; (the link markus provided above is wrong).

Kos is no saint, but at least understand where he&#039;s coming from before you condemn him, and maybe show as much class as Roger when discussing him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s rare for anyone to apologize these days for anything, so props to Roger for doing so. Especially since he did nothing worse than making a snotty comment.</p>
<p>For those of you heaping abuse on Kos for his &#8220;screw &#8216;em&#8221; comment, here is his explanation for it: <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/2/175739/8203" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/2/175739/8203</a> (the link markus provided above is wrong).</p>
<p>Kos is no saint, but at least understand where he&#8217;s coming from before you condemn him, and maybe show as much class as Roger when discussing him.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony (Los Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony (Los Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Kos dosn&#039;t deserve an apology, you showed yourself to be a gentleman, Roger. That&#039;s far more than Moulitsas will ever do, unless he grows up a lot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Kos dosn&#8217;t deserve an apology, you showed yourself to be a gentleman, Roger. That&#8217;s far more than Moulitsas will ever do, unless he grows up a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: dclydew</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

Thank you. I was worried that you might be slipping, but you have calmed my fears. I&#039;m just sad to see so many people using this simple statement as a platform to further rant about nonsense. Hopefully you will not catch the insanity that seems to be plaguing so many.

Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Thank you. I was worried that you might be slipping, but you have calmed my fears. I&#8217;m just sad to see so many people using this simple statement as a platform to further rant about nonsense. Hopefully you will not catch the insanity that seems to be plaguing so many.</p>
<p>Ratatosk, Squirrel of Discord</p>
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		<title>By: In Vino Veritas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that it matters, but I think that&#039;s a pretty cool thing for you to do. Bravo.

About Viswanathan, her case is oviously one of plagarism, but with Google scanning books, it will be that much easier now to accuse any new author of plagarism.  All it would take is some seven word sentence, for example, to be identical, and the shrill cries of &quot;Plagarist!&quot; will be raised.

Ecclesiastes told us several thousand years ago that &quot;What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun.&quot;  I&#039;m afraid we&#039;re about to get quantitative proof of that fact.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that it matters, but I think that&#8217;s a pretty cool thing for you to do. Bravo.</p>
<p>About Viswanathan, her case is oviously one of plagarism, but with Google scanning books, it will be that much easier now to accuse any new author of plagarism.  All it would take is some seven word sentence, for example, to be identical, and the shrill cries of &#8220;Plagarist!&#8221; will be raised.</p>
<p>Ecclesiastes told us several thousand years ago that &#8220;What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun.&#8221;  I&#8217;m afraid we&#8217;re about to get quantitative proof of that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: A Hermit</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Hermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear Roger Simon will soon be reporting that his friend John told him that the always reliable Drudge reports that nobody&#039;s listening to that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23169/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Commie Neil Young&lt;/a&gt;, but they are rushing out to buy the records of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gaede twins&lt;/a&gt; who are remarkably respected in the music industry for their integrity and intelligence...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear Roger Simon will soon be reporting that his friend John told him that the always reliable Drudge reports that nobody&#8217;s listening to that <a href="http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23169/" rel="nofollow">Commie Neil Young</a>, but they are rushing out to buy the records of the <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">Gaede twins</a> who are remarkably respected in the music industry for their integrity and intelligence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Dad, you have the economics of the book business substantially right.  Most of us do it for love - or, sometimes in my  case, for the chance of a film sale.  Of course, that&#039;s unlikely in the Kos or Reynolds case (political tomes don&#039;t film particularly well).

Another point:  authors complain about publishers (and I do!), but quite often you get an advance larger than you may deserve, essentially a subsidy - that is the few &quot;breakout&quot; books subsidize the rest. The DaVinci Code, reviled by some, is paying for a lot of other authors&#039; work.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Dad, you have the economics of the book business substantially right.  Most of us do it for love &#8211; or, sometimes in my  case, for the chance of a film sale.  Of course, that&#8217;s unlikely in the Kos or Reynolds case (political tomes don&#8217;t film particularly well).</p>
<p>Another point:  authors complain about publishers (and I do!), but quite often you get an advance larger than you may deserve, essentially a subsidy &#8211; that is the few &#8220;breakout&#8221; books subsidize the rest. The DaVinci Code, reviled by some, is paying for a lot of other authors&#8217; work.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Dad</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book business mystifies me. Most seem to agree that unit sales of 4000 after two months is pretty crappy. Sure seems crappy to me. But average nonfiction lifetime sales is 5000 units. Some speculate that Kos might scare 20000 units for this title.

I&#039;m further told that an 8% royalty is pretty good. So if Kos sells for $20 on average, he produces a total revenue stream of $400,000 and puts maybe $32,000 in his pocket. And that&#039;s good?

I can see why publishers publish, and booksellers sell, but I can&#039;t for the life of me see why anyone would write a book that if it outperformed the market would only sell 10,000 units.

No wonder there&#039;s no marketing.

As to the potential impact on the country of a Kos or Instapundit tome--zilch. Even if the titles do well, almost no one reads them.

What an odd business.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book business mystifies me. Most seem to agree that unit sales of 4000 after two months is pretty crappy. Sure seems crappy to me. But average nonfiction lifetime sales is 5000 units. Some speculate that Kos might scare 20000 units for this title.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m further told that an 8% royalty is pretty good. So if Kos sells for $20 on average, he produces a total revenue stream of $400,000 and puts maybe $32,000 in his pocket. And that&#8217;s good?</p>
<p>I can see why publishers publish, and booksellers sell, but I can&#8217;t for the life of me see why anyone would write a book that if it outperformed the market would only sell 10,000 units.</p>
<p>No wonder there&#8217;s no marketing.</p>
<p>As to the potential impact on the country of a Kos or Instapundit tome&#8211;zilch. Even if the titles do well, almost no one reads them.</p>
<p>What an odd business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ripper</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even writing about Kos makes one feel dirty.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even writing about Kos makes one feel dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: markus</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Roger.

Regarding his &quot;screw &#039;em&quot; comment, which I hadn&#039;t heard about before.

Ricky links to it above.  Contrary to what Ricky claims, every other pinko leftist on that thread that responds to his comment expresses disgust with it, not support.

Which in turn prompts him to write a response, which I think we can all agree is in fact an apology, in spite of its moral grandstanding about &quot;caring too much&quot;:  http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/4/1/144156/3224#16


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Roger.</p>
<p>Regarding his &#8220;screw &#8216;em&#8221; comment, which I hadn&#8217;t heard about before.</p>
<p>Ricky links to it above.  Contrary to what Ricky claims, every other pinko leftist on that thread that responds to his comment expresses disgust with it, not support.</p>
<p>Which in turn prompts him to write a response, which I think we can all agree is in fact an apology, in spite of its moral grandstanding about &#8220;caring too much&#8221;:  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/4/1/144156/3224#16" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2004/4/1/144156/3224#16</a></p>
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		<title>By: tim maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, if you&#039;re apologizing for being snarky, I can be supportive of that. We all say things a little sooner than we should from time to time and later regret it.

But if you&#039;re apologizing for being wrong, well, shouldnt a prerequisite be that you are wrong? I checked out instapundit&#039;s update and yes, Drudge said he sold 3,600 hundred copies when actually he sold 4,400 and is selling 700 copies a week when Drudge said it was selling few. So basically Drudge was right, the book is selling shockingly poorly.

Yes, Kos stands a decent chance of selling above average, but so what? This is Kos, a guy with one of the highest trafficked websites in existance, a household name on the blogosphere, a man with popular television personalities pushing his book, a free pass to a number of TV shows. But Drudge is wrong becuase Kos sold a handfull more copies then Drudge said and might eventually sell slightly better than authors most people have never heard of who can&#039;teven get an ad buy?

Please, Drudge was right.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, if you&#8217;re apologizing for being snarky, I can be supportive of that. We all say things a little sooner than we should from time to time and later regret it.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re apologizing for being wrong, well, shouldnt a prerequisite be that you are wrong? I checked out instapundit&#8217;s update and yes, Drudge said he sold 3,600 hundred copies when actually he sold 4,400 and is selling 700 copies a week when Drudge said it was selling few. So basically Drudge was right, the book is selling shockingly poorly.</p>
<p>Yes, Kos stands a decent chance of selling above average, but so what? This is Kos, a guy with one of the highest trafficked websites in existance, a household name on the blogosphere, a man with popular television personalities pushing his book, a free pass to a number of TV shows. But Drudge is wrong becuase Kos sold a handfull more copies then Drudge said and might eventually sell slightly better than authors most people have never heard of who can&#8217;teven get an ad buy?</p>
<p>Please, Drudge was right.</p>
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