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		<title>By: CapitalistKerry</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/06/24/leaking-the-obvious/#comment-79250</link>
		<dc:creator>CapitalistKerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

There are two big differences you should keep in mind.

Knowing that the Police are going to crack down on drunk drivers over a holiday weekend and knowing exactly which intersections will have check points.

There is a big difference in the public ìfootprintî between the New York Times and the Counterrorism Blog.

This revelation hurt. It is unpatriotic if not treason.

HOW MANY AMERICANS MUST DIE before the LAT and NYT believes we are at war??

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>There are two big differences you should keep in mind.</p>
<p>Knowing that the Police are going to crack down on drunk drivers over a holiday weekend and knowing exactly which intersections will have check points.</p>
<p>There is a big difference in the public ìfootprintî between the New York Times and the Counterrorism Blog.</p>
<p>This revelation hurt. It is unpatriotic if not treason.</p>
<p>HOW MANY AMERICANS MUST DIE before the LAT and NYT believes we are at war??</p>
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		<title>By: Sissy Willis</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/06/24/leaking-the-obvious/#comment-79249</link>
		<dc:creator>Sissy Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to cancel your subscription. My sister has bitten the bullet and given up her biweekly Acrostic:

&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2006/06/authority_has_d.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I shall never buy the New York Times again&lt;/a&gt;&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to cancel your subscription. My sister has bitten the bullet and given up her biweekly Acrostic:</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2006/06/authority_has_d.html" rel="nofollow">I shall never buy the New York Times again</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nieporent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason they do this is because they can. They will continue to do so until they start going to jail for their treasonous actions.  Make no mistake about it, the NYT is effectively on the side of our enemies.  They don&#039;t care what damage they do to our country as long as they can do something to hurt or embarrass the Bush administration.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason they do this is because they can. They will continue to do so until they start going to jail for their treasonous actions.  Make no mistake about it, the NYT is effectively on the side of our enemies.  They don&#8217;t care what damage they do to our country as long as they can do something to hurt or embarrass the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore ( Useful Fools )</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore ( Useful Fools )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with &lt;b&gt;mikem&lt;/b&gt;.

Just like one should never assume stupidity on the part of one&#039;s enemy, it is equally foolish to assume that they know as much as you think they do. This is especially true in this age where Al Qaeda&#039;s viral ideology is creating independent groups (such as the bozos just arrested) who are not as sophisticated as &quot;the center&quot; but still may be capable of inflicting a lot of damage (can you say Tim Al-McVeigh?).

Maybe this action by the NYT is harmless, but maybe it is very harmful. For example, the enemy may not know what mechanisms are available for us to monitor financial transactions. They may not know whether we can monitor transactions between Afghanistan and Switzerland, for example.

Now they know more.

In any case, it is simply not up to the MSM to decide which classified information should be released. That is an undemocratic arrogation of power, and a clear violation of our democratically passed laws. They should be prosecuted for these serious federal crimes.

The New York Times, especially, seems to believe that it is wiser than our president (well, they are sure he is a dunce), our congress, and most of our citizens. They are willing to collaborate with unelected bureaucrats who are have similar arrogance, and together they happily give all of our secrets to the enemy.

I, for one, are damned tired of this. Whether it is leaking &quot;obvious&quot; information, really critical stuff (such as oversease CIA detentiona facilities), or simply badly damaging our psy-war efforts (Abu Ghraib-fest), the New York Times and its ilk have gone way past the line. &lt;b&gt;They are behaving as an enemy of the people of the United States&lt;/b&gt;. I don&#039;t know what we can do about this, but damn it, we need to something about these arrogant, unpatriotic Bushater bastards who have so much power.

I don&#039;t want to hear from these toads about the First Amendment, because it does not (according to the Supreme Court) protect them in these cases. Beyond that, the First Amendment defines what the government may and may not duue, but it doesn&#039;t define what is in good taste, poor taste, or darn right treasonous.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with <b>mikem</b>.</p>
<p>Just like one should never assume stupidity on the part of one&#8217;s enemy, it is equally foolish to assume that they know as much as you think they do. This is especially true in this age where Al Qaeda&#8217;s viral ideology is creating independent groups (such as the bozos just arrested) who are not as sophisticated as &#8220;the center&#8221; but still may be capable of inflicting a lot of damage (can you say Tim Al-McVeigh?).</p>
<p>Maybe this action by the NYT is harmless, but maybe it is very harmful. For example, the enemy may not know what mechanisms are available for us to monitor financial transactions. They may not know whether we can monitor transactions between Afghanistan and Switzerland, for example.</p>
<p>Now they know more.</p>
<p>In any case, it is simply not up to the MSM to decide which classified information should be released. That is an undemocratic arrogation of power, and a clear violation of our democratically passed laws. They should be prosecuted for these serious federal crimes.</p>
<p>The New York Times, especially, seems to believe that it is wiser than our president (well, they are sure he is a dunce), our congress, and most of our citizens. They are willing to collaborate with unelected bureaucrats who are have similar arrogance, and together they happily give all of our secrets to the enemy.</p>
<p>I, for one, are damned tired of this. Whether it is leaking &#8220;obvious&#8221; information, really critical stuff (such as oversease CIA detentiona facilities), or simply badly damaging our psy-war efforts (Abu Ghraib-fest), the New York Times and its ilk have gone way past the line. <b>They are behaving as an enemy of the people of the United States</b>. I don&#8217;t know what we can do about this, but damn it, we need to something about these arrogant, unpatriotic Bushater bastards who have so much power.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to hear from these toads about the First Amendment, because it does not (according to the Supreme Court) protect them in these cases. Beyond that, the First Amendment defines what the government may and may not duue, but it doesn&#8217;t define what is in good taste, poor taste, or darn right treasonous.</p>
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		<title>By: mikem</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 03:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So what&#039;s the story here? Exactly none....&quot;

I think the story here is that there is a difference between the enemy knowing that we are trying to examine international financial transactions and them being told precisely which financial institutions/instruments/crossroads we are examining and the fact that they are cooperating with us.
Or is there no difference between a child molester knowing that child protection agencies try to monitor chatrooms for their activities and publishing a list of which chatrooms are actually monitored with the cooperation of website owners?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what&#8217;s the story here? Exactly none&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the story here is that there is a difference between the enemy knowing that we are trying to examine international financial transactions and them being told precisely which financial institutions/instruments/crossroads we are examining and the fact that they are cooperating with us.<br />
Or is there no difference between a child molester knowing that child protection agencies try to monitor chatrooms for their activities and publishing a list of which chatrooms are actually monitored with the cooperation of website owners?</p>
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		<title>By: Vulgorilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vulgorilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Patterico has canceled his LAT subsrciption over this brouhaha.&quot;

I cancelled my subscriptions a couple of years ago in disgust over their (NYT) &quot;red, anti-american&quot; journalism.  I&#039;ve been watching with great glee over their lay offs and such, hoping that I will eventually see their name on the docket for bankruptcy court.  If things keep going as they are, I shouldn&#039;t have too long to wait.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Patterico has canceled his LAT subsrciption over this brouhaha.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cancelled my subscriptions a couple of years ago in disgust over their (NYT) &#8220;red, anti-american&#8221; journalism.  I&#8217;ve been watching with great glee over their lay offs and such, hoping that I will eventually see their name on the docket for bankruptcy court.  If things keep going as they are, I shouldn&#8217;t have too long to wait.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He can always go to the store and purchase the Wednesday edition cooking section.&lt;/i&gt;

And when you do that, I might suggest that you either take the copy in the window of the box, or take the window copy and turn it around so the &quot;below the fold&quot; portion of the front page is displayed upside down.  This could result in the loss of some &quot;impulse&quot; sales from the box without actually stealing or damaging anything.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He can always go to the store and purchase the Wednesday edition cooking section.</i></p>
<p>And when you do that, I might suggest that you either take the copy in the window of the box, or take the window copy and turn it around so the &#8220;below the fold&#8221; portion of the front page is displayed upside down.  This could result in the loss of some &#8220;impulse&#8221; sales from the box without actually stealing or damaging anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had declined to resubscribe to the WSJ because it leans left, but they offered me $100/yr.



I&#039;m calling Monday to cancel and I will use the word &quot;treason.&quot;  Haven&#039;t gotten any more letters from the NYT or Newsweek using that term written in red.



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OT:  Must Read, via Lucianne:



Muslims address silence on Europe attacks



** In short, not my problem.**

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had declined to resubscribe to the WSJ because it leans left, but they offered me $100/yr.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m calling Monday to cancel and I will use the word &#8220;treason.&#8221;  Haven&#8217;t gotten any more letters from the NYT or Newsweek using that term written in red.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>OT:  Must Read, via Lucianne:</p>
<p>Muslims address silence on Europe attacks</p>
<p>** In short, not my problem.**</p>
<p>-</p>
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		<title>By: kcom</title>
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		<dc:creator>kcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of the immortal words of Nathan Hale (which I hearby insert into Patterico&#039;s mouth), &quot;My only regret is that I have but one LA Times subscription to cancel for my country.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of the immortal words of Nathan Hale (which I hearby insert into Patterico&#8217;s mouth), &#8220;My only regret is that I have but one LA Times subscription to cancel for my country.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But we dare not call it treason&lt;/i&gt;
And that is what the treasonous media count on, that the public is too intimidated to call this by its rightful name. I&#039;m damn fed up with them. I don&#039;t know how many young Americans may lose their lives directly or indirectly because of this, but one is too many, and I for one will not hesitate to call what they&#039;re doing treason. And I will never spend another dime on that newspaper, and will check very carefully for links to their web pages on various sites and avoid them so that I will not drive their page views up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But we dare not call it treason</i><br />
And that is what the treasonous media count on, that the public is too intimidated to call this by its rightful name. I&#8217;m damn fed up with them. I don&#8217;t know how many young Americans may lose their lives directly or indirectly because of this, but one is too many, and I for one will not hesitate to call what they&#8217;re doing treason. And I will never spend another dime on that newspaper, and will check very carefully for links to their web pages on various sites and avoid them so that I will not drive their page views up.</p>
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