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	<title>Comments on: Krauthammer misses the point on OJ</title>
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		<title>By: Twill00</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/11/24/krauthammer-misses-the-point-on-oj/#comment-83319</link>
		<dc:creator>Twill00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in both cases the OJ verdicts were accurate.

OJ was found criminally &quot;not guilty&quot;, not necessarily because he deserved to win, but because the police had so badly screwed up the case that they deserved to lose.  On the standard of &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty&quot;, OJ was not guilty in that particular trial.

On the other hand, in the civil trial, OJ was shown by a preponderance of the evidence to have done the crime.  Which is also quite correct.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in both cases the OJ verdicts were accurate.</p>
<p>OJ was found criminally &#8220;not guilty&#8221;, not necessarily because he deserved to win, but because the police had so badly screwed up the case that they deserved to lose.  On the standard of &#8220;beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty&#8221;, OJ was not guilty in that particular trial.</p>
<p>On the other hand, in the civil trial, OJ was shown by a preponderance of the evidence to have done the crime.  Which is also quite correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2006/11/24/krauthammer-misses-the-point-on-oj/#comment-83318</link>
		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From David Horowitz.

&quot;If it is true, as Robert Shapiro says, that the race card was dealt from the bottom of the deck all during the proceedings that freed his client, it is also clear that the race card was played long before the trial began and Mark Fuhrman became the shadow defendant. From the outset, white officials in the Los Angeles County district attorney&#039;s office behaved like the character in The Manchurian Candidate who enters a state of mesmerized suggestibility whenever a Soviet control agent gets out a deck of cards. In the movie it was the Queen of Hearts that triggers this response, but in the Simpson trial it was the race card.&quot;

For the entire article go here.
http://tinyurl.com/yy7e89


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From David Horowitz.</p>
<p>&#8220;If it is true, as Robert Shapiro says, that the race card was dealt from the bottom of the deck all during the proceedings that freed his client, it is also clear that the race card was played long before the trial began and Mark Fuhrman became the shadow defendant. From the outset, white officials in the Los Angeles County district attorney&#8217;s office behaved like the character in The Manchurian Candidate who enters a state of mesmerized suggestibility whenever a Soviet control agent gets out a deck of cards. In the movie it was the Queen of Hearts that triggers this response, but in the Simpson trial it was the race card.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the entire article go here.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yy7e89" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yy7e89</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Den Beste</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Den Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 05:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice was not done, but it is not Cochran&#039;s fault. Justice was not done because the LA police and the LA district attorney&#039;s office botched the case. If they had done their job correctly, even Cochran wouldn&#039;t have been able to get OJ off.

Don&#039;t blame Cochran because of the injustice of this particular case.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice was not done, but it is not Cochran&#8217;s fault. Justice was not done because the LA police and the LA district attorney&#8217;s office botched the case. If they had done their job correctly, even Cochran wouldn&#8217;t have been able to get OJ off.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame Cochran because of the injustice of this particular case.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone wants to speak he can buy the air time. Of course, I would like to see how, should he be able to afford it and still have a number of unfulfilled adjudicated claims against him.

If what somebody has to say is of so little value and so contemptuous, why should we act as if we fear it?

On Letterman, Jerry Seinfeld was put in the unenviable position of asking people not to laugh. It&#039;s similarly strange when a writer asks that someone not speak.

Then again that someone did kill two people. The least we can summon from each other is for him not to be allowed to continue in the limelight he so brazenly craves.

Decency still matters. I think I&#039;m with Roger on this one.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone wants to speak he can buy the air time. Of course, I would like to see how, should he be able to afford it and still have a number of unfulfilled adjudicated claims against him.</p>
<p>If what somebody has to say is of so little value and so contemptuous, why should we act as if we fear it?</p>
<p>On Letterman, Jerry Seinfeld was put in the unenviable position of asking people not to laugh. It&#8217;s similarly strange when a writer asks that someone not speak.</p>
<p>Then again that someone did kill two people. The least we can summon from each other is for him not to be allowed to continue in the limelight he so brazenly craves.</p>
<p>Decency still matters. I think I&#8217;m with Roger on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Oregon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Oregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, let&#039;s not use the term &quot;justice&quot; when talking about what defense attorneys are doing in instances where they get a client off the hook when they KNOW the client is guilty. Cochran did what he&#039;s supposed to do, but it wasn&#039;t justice. Ours is not really a justice system, it&#039;s an adversary system where most often the best lawyer wins. When the premise is that it&#039;s better to let 1,000 guilty go free than convict one person &quot;unjustly&quot; you get what we got in the O.J. verdict.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, let&#8217;s not use the term &#8220;justice&#8221; when talking about what defense attorneys are doing in instances where they get a client off the hook when they KNOW the client is guilty. Cochran did what he&#8217;s supposed to do, but it wasn&#8217;t justice. Ours is not really a justice system, it&#8217;s an adversary system where most often the best lawyer wins. When the premise is that it&#8217;s better to let 1,000 guilty go free than convict one person &#8220;unjustly&#8221; you get what we got in the O.J. verdict.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony (Los Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony (Los Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing to consider: what must OJ&#039;s children have thought at the prospect of Dad writing a book on how he would have murdered their mother? The mind just boggles.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing to consider: what must OJ&#8217;s children have thought at the prospect of Dad writing a book on how he would have murdered their mother? The mind just boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Luther McLeod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luther McLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, just a small defense of Roger here. I think we all understand what Cochran did. He pulled out all stops to cast aspersions and discredit upon the prosecution. He won. So in a very focused and distinct way, laurels upon him. He successfully defended his client. IOW&#039;s justice won out. But do you really believe that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, just a small defense of Roger here. I think we all understand what Cochran did. He pulled out all stops to cast aspersions and discredit upon the prosecution. He won. So in a very focused and distinct way, laurels upon him. He successfully defended his client. IOW&#8217;s justice won out. But do you really believe that?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Den Beste</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Den Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, you misunderstand what Cochran&#039;s job is. A defense attorney in our criminal justice system performs the same job as a QA engineer in product development. His job is to find and bring to light all of the problems in the prosecution case.

It&#039;s the prosecution&#039;s job to prove that the defendant is guilty. The defense attorney&#039;s job is to demonstrate that the prosecution failed to do so.

Justice isn&#039;t the job of the defense attorney. That&#039;s the job of the judge and jury. The system depends on the fact that the defense attorney does his best to get his client off &lt;i&gt;even if the client is guilty&lt;/i&gt;. If he doesn&#039;t, then the system fails.

If defense attorneys acted otherwise, they&#039;d be substituting their own judgment for that of the judge and jury. I don&#039;t want a criminal justice system in which defense attorneys decide who should be convicted, before any trials take place.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, you misunderstand what Cochran&#8217;s job is. A defense attorney in our criminal justice system performs the same job as a QA engineer in product development. His job is to find and bring to light all of the problems in the prosecution case.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the prosecution&#8217;s job to prove that the defendant is guilty. The defense attorney&#8217;s job is to demonstrate that the prosecution failed to do so.</p>
<p>Justice isn&#8217;t the job of the defense attorney. That&#8217;s the job of the judge and jury. The system depends on the fact that the defense attorney does his best to get his client off <i>even if the client is guilty</i>. If he doesn&#8217;t, then the system fails.</p>
<p>If defense attorneys acted otherwise, they&#8217;d be substituting their own judgment for that of the judge and jury. I don&#8217;t want a criminal justice system in which defense attorneys decide who should be convicted, before any trials take place.</p>
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		<title>By: AskMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>AskMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At a health club in Florida, a friend&#039;s daughter met a woman who had been asked out by Simpson.  A slap and the threat of a restraining order if he ever came into her vision again was her response.

Too bad every woman isn&#039;t as sensible.  But there will always be those who are willing to gamble their lives for publicity.  Selling oneself may be the oldest profession, it can also so easily be the last one a person ever practices.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At a health club in Florida, a friend&#8217;s daughter met a woman who had been asked out by Simpson.  A slap and the threat of a restraining order if he ever came into her vision again was her response.</p>
<p>Too bad every woman isn&#8217;t as sensible.  But there will always be those who are willing to gamble their lives for publicity.  Selling oneself may be the oldest profession, it can also so easily be the last one a person ever practices.</p>
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		<title>By: jedrury</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedrury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

I agree with you on Alcee Hastings.

The Alcee issue is off point to OJ which for most Americans is a settled matter [disgraceful racist acquittal], Alcee is more important now and politicially charged since it involves national security. Once Pelosi commits to the corruptible Hastings in December or January, it is probably the perogative of the Speaker to appoint the committee chairs. So there may be no vote.

The GOP and the president should make it a major issue by challenging his top secret clearance.
Or,  the president and Negroponte should simply refuse to turn over classified information to Alcee.
They should,  but they won&#039;t because I am not convinced that the administration is committed to confrontation. It is only through an  intense media generating confrontation pitting Alcee&#039;s utter lack of probity against the national security interests of the nation can the GOP take the issue of national security to a higher level. The key to take back the Congress starts now and everyday for the next two years and while the media may focus on the presidential race, the real long term interest lies in trench warfare in the Congres with Pelosi.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>I agree with you on Alcee Hastings.</p>
<p>The Alcee issue is off point to OJ which for most Americans is a settled matter [disgraceful racist acquittal], Alcee is more important now and politicially charged since it involves national security. Once Pelosi commits to the corruptible Hastings in December or January, it is probably the perogative of the Speaker to appoint the committee chairs. So there may be no vote.</p>
<p>The GOP and the president should make it a major issue by challenging his top secret clearance.<br />
Or,  the president and Negroponte should simply refuse to turn over classified information to Alcee.<br />
They should,  but they won&#8217;t because I am not convinced that the administration is committed to confrontation. It is only through an  intense media generating confrontation pitting Alcee&#8217;s utter lack of probity against the national security interests of the nation can the GOP take the issue of national security to a higher level. The key to take back the Congress starts now and everyday for the next two years and while the media may focus on the presidential race, the real long term interest lies in trench warfare in the Congres with Pelosi.</p>
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