Comments on: The Set America Free Coalition – Count me in http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:06:12 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Barry Dauphin http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84647 Barry Dauphin Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:55:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84647 It looks like the website Climate Audit (www.climateaudit.com) has been hijacked. I posted a comment earlier, and when I went back to check, there's another site in its place. What's free speech when we're dealing with Armageddon. It looks like the website Climate Audit (www.climateaudit.com) has been hijacked. I posted a comment earlier, and when I went back to check, there’s another site in its place. What’s free speech when we’re dealing with Armageddon.

]]> By: bigger http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84646 bigger Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:57:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84646 I tend to agree with you on the problems which have resulted from Bush's failure to become a great communicator, but I suspect this was done deliberately. The war we are waging is not against 'terror' but against 'islamofascist jihadism,' which would have required Bush to accurately name the enemy, which would have resulted in most moslems being seen as the 'enemy' by most Americans, with enormous problems arising from that. As to climate amageddon. My MA was in archaeology -- I know for a fact that the 'past' described by Mann et al.'s hockey stick is fraud, that Oreskes' _Science_ paper describing a 'consensus' is, well, something she should not be proud of putting on her resume (Google 'Oreskes Peiser [or Peisser]). _Science_ has a tendency to just igore anyone who isn't 'with the program.' People interested in the problem should go to wwws 'climateaudit.org' {for the Mannists) 'realclimate.com,' or 'climatechange.com' or 'motls.blogspot.com' for corrective data. As to the IPCC, they are a political body from the UN, the same people who gave us Oil for Food and the Rwanda genocide. I tend to agree with you on the problems which have resulted from Bush’s failure to become a great communicator, but I suspect this was done deliberately. The war we are waging is not against ‘terror’ but against ‘islamofascist jihadism,’ which would have required Bush to accurately name the enemy, which would have resulted in most moslems being seen as the ‘enemy’ by most Americans, with enormous problems arising from that.

As to climate amageddon. My MA was in archaeology — I know for a fact that the ‘past’ described by Mann et al.’s hockey stick is fraud, that Oreskes’ _Science_ paper describing a ‘consensus’ is, well, something she should not be proud of putting on her resume (Google ‘Oreskes Peiser [or Peisser]). _Science_ has a tendency to just igore anyone who isn’t ‘with the program.’ People interested in the problem should go to wwws ‘climateaudit.org’ {for the Mannists) ‘realclimate.com,’ or ‘climatechange.com’ or ‘motls.blogspot.com’ for corrective data. As to the IPCC, they are a political body from the UN, the same people who gave us Oil for Food and the Rwanda genocide.

]]> By: Terrye http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84645 Terrye Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:27:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84645 I think Barry is right here. It is also hard to keep up support for the war when the Senate seems to think that Commander in Chief is a shared a position and they have the right to interject themselves into the decision making process. How did presidents ever manage to do their jobs before there was a Washngton Press Corp and the Gallup poll? I think Barry is right here. It is also hard to keep up support for the war when the Senate seems to think that Commander in Chief is a shared a position and they have the right to interject themselves into the decision making process.

How did presidents ever manage to do their jobs before there was a Washngton Press Corp and the Gallup poll?

]]> By: timmah! http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84644 timmah! Wed, 31 Jan 2007 02:47:45 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84644 Energy reform is power lying in the street (yuk yuk). Whoever picks it up will be tough to beat. Just yesterday there was a report out on behalf of DoE stating that we could pretty easily and very cleanly generate 2,000 times our annual electricity consumption using enhanced geothermal power. For about $1B over the next 10 years, we could develop a commercial scale op; using that technology we could shift 10% of our electricity production to geothermal in 2050. No hydrogen miracles required. Who wouldn't like that? http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/070129/25373_id.html?.v=1 http://geothermal.inel.gov/publications/future_of_geothermal_energy.pdf Energy reform is power lying in the street (yuk yuk). Whoever picks it up will be tough to beat. Just yesterday there was a report out on behalf of DoE stating that we could pretty easily and very cleanly generate 2,000 times our annual electricity consumption using enhanced geothermal power. For about $1B over the next 10 years, we could develop a commercial scale op; using that technology we could shift 10% of our electricity production to geothermal in 2050. No hydrogen miracles required. Who wouldn’t like that?

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/070129/25373_id.html?.v=1

http://geothermal.inel.gov/publications/future_of_geothermal_energy.pdf

]]> By: Barry Dauphin http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84643 Barry Dauphin Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:40:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84643 I have come to the conclusion that the President has not developed a strong enough communication strategy and effort, although I felt very much like terrye for a long time. I believe the issue is more complicated than that Bush isn't smart in this area, becuase whether he is or not, there are lots of smart people around him. Nonetheless no market democracy maintains a war effort without this. How many WWII film clips were played at the cinema during the war to keep the population informed and on board with the effort? Maybe people used to support war efforts without being prompted to, but I really doubt it. In either event, we no longer live in that world. We are a rich and somewhat spoiled citizenry that will need to be involved in some ways that we haven't been so far. In some ways it might be too late to salvage a public relations strategy vis a vis Iraq. Success (however defined) will have to be the public relations strategy. Should the surge succeed and the picture change, Bush will be considered a genius down the road. If not, I think few people will blame it on a communications problem. Energy independence is a big dream, perhaps even a grandiose dream, but if we are in an existential conflict, then we had better dream big. Although Bush has been somewhat allergic to the idea of a Big Government effort like this, he has used Big Government for education reform and creating the Dept. of Homeland Security (and yes I know the Administration didn't want to but they did it and Bush showed less resolve about that issue than about Iraq in general) and has not been a small government President, except in rhetoric. It is conceivable that "go shop" was not only about maintaing normalcy, but also about letting the Islamofascists know that we are going about our business, so F you. I think that the Administration did not plan to be in such a precarious position in Iraq in 2007 (<i>yeah, no joke</i>-ed). I believe most officials thought the worst would be long over there by now. I think that the Administration has perceived that we are about over the hump numerous times, but not. So the idea of developing this kind of strategy probably seemed unnecessary at an earlier point, because the WoT (outside of Iraq and Afghanistan) would be much less visible and less like a convnetional war. I also believe that the Administration hasn't figured out how to have a communications strategy in this kind of war effort, which is more like fighting the IRA on steroids than anything we did in WWII. I have come to the conclusion that the President has not developed a strong enough communication strategy and effort, although I felt very much like terrye for a long time. I believe the issue is more complicated than that Bush isn’t smart in this area, becuase whether he is or not, there are lots of smart people around him.

Nonetheless no market democracy maintains a war effort without this. How many WWII film clips were played at the cinema during the war to keep the population informed and on board with the effort? Maybe people used to support war efforts without being prompted to, but I really doubt it. In either event, we no longer live in that world. We are a rich and somewhat spoiled citizenry that will need to be involved in some ways that we haven’t been so far. In some ways it might be too late to salvage a public relations strategy vis a vis Iraq. Success (however defined) will have to be the public relations strategy. Should the surge succeed and the picture change, Bush will be considered a genius down the road. If not, I think few people will blame it on a communications problem.

Energy independence is a big dream, perhaps even a grandiose dream, but if we are in an existential conflict, then we had better dream big. Although Bush has been somewhat allergic to the idea of a Big Government effort like this, he has used Big Government for education reform and creating the Dept. of Homeland Security (and yes I know the Administration didn’t want to but they did it and Bush showed less resolve about that issue than about Iraq in general) and has not been a small government President, except in rhetoric.

It is conceivable that “go shop” was not only about maintaing normalcy, but also about letting the Islamofascists know that we are going about our business, so F you. I think that the Administration did not plan to be in such a precarious position in Iraq in 2007 (yeah, no joke-ed). I believe most officials thought the worst would be long over there by now. I think that the Administration has perceived that we are about over the hump numerous times, but not. So the idea of developing this kind of strategy probably seemed unnecessary at an earlier point, because the WoT (outside of Iraq and Afghanistan) would be much less visible and less like a convnetional war. I also believe that the Administration hasn’t figured out how to have a communications strategy in this kind of war effort, which is more like fighting the IRA on steroids than anything we did in WWII.

]]> By: Stace http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84642 Stace Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:29:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84642 I just received this link to a picture of folks from the group I mentioned, secureenergy.org, meeting with the President yesterday. http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070129/ids_photos_ts/r1302972970.jpg I would bet that he's been meeting with Woolsey's group, too. I just received this link to a picture of folks from the group I mentioned, secureenergy.org, meeting with the President yesterday.

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070129/ids_photos_ts/r1302972970.jpg

I would bet that he’s been meeting with Woolsey’s group, too.

]]> By: Sandy P http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84641 Sandy P Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:23:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84641 Via Bros. Judd: THE STEFANI WIVES (via Bryan Francoeur): Chairman: Bush officials misled public on global warming (AP, January 30, 2007) The Democratic chairman of a House panel examining the government's response to climate change said Tuesday there is evidence that senior Bush administration officials sought repeatedly "to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming." Because the Left can't tolerate doubt. Via Bros. Judd:

THE STEFANI WIVES (via Bryan Francoeur):

Chairman: Bush officials misled public on global warming (AP, January 30, 2007)

The Democratic chairman of a House panel examining the government’s response to climate change said Tuesday there is evidence that senior Bush administration officials sought repeatedly “to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming.”

Because the Left can’t tolerate doubt.

]]> By: Stace http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84640 Stace Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:08:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84640 Thanks for the information, Alan. I suspect that interesting story of the roman mine emerging from the glacier has caused some panties to get bunched up. Thanks for the information, Alan. I suspect that interesting story of the roman mine emerging from the glacier has caused some panties to get bunched up.

]]> By: Cap'n Billy http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84639 Cap'n Billy Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:49:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84639 I recall after the first energy crisis of the early 70's I said, "Well, at least now we'll become energy independent and stop depending on this unstable part of the world for oil." Never in my wildest nightmares did I suspect that 30-odd years later we would be more dependent on them than ever. Thanks a lot Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth and all the other usual gadflies and all the poltroon politicians that allowed themselves to be intimidated by them. I recall after the first energy crisis of the early 70’s I said, “Well, at least now we’ll become energy independent and stop depending on this unstable part of the world for oil.” Never in my wildest nightmares did I suspect that 30-odd years later we would be more dependent on them than ever. Thanks a lot Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth and all the other usual gadflies and all the poltroon politicians that allowed themselves to be intimidated by them.

]]> By: AlanC http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84638 AlanC Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:28:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/01/29/the-set-america-free-coalition-count-me-in/#comment-84638 Stace, I've enough statistics training to follow the arguments of the skeptics vis a vis the IPCC and they are very persuasive. Read, if you haven't, the refutations on JunkScience and you'll see that the infamous IPCC hockey stick is a total statistical crock. If you feed their equations random data you STILL get a hockey stick. This stuff is right up there with the Lancet casualty study. I heard an interesting anecdote the other day that a receding glacier in the Alps uncovered a Roman period mining operation. Guess that glacier's been coming and going for a while. Stace,

I’ve enough statistics training to follow the arguments of the skeptics vis a vis the IPCC and they are very persuasive.

Read, if you haven’t, the refutations on JunkScience and you’ll see that the infamous IPCC hockey stick is a total statistical crock. If you feed their equations random data you STILL get a hockey stick.

This stuff is right up there with the Lancet casualty study.

I heard an interesting anecdote the other day that a receding glacier in the Alps uncovered a Roman period mining operation. Guess that glacier’s been coming and going for a while.

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