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1. Terrye:

Roger:

I expect Howard Dean to be a nuisance, but I was amazed at the number of people who think Ann Coulter is funny or that this is just about political correctness. It is not, it is about acting like grownups.

Mar 3, 2007 - 10:31 am 2. Buddy Larsen:

She has a valuable message–the hypocrisy and bad behavior on the left–and her comment was surely satirical off that theme. But, boy, did she ever count on her layers of nuance being understood. In the end, she stomped all over her own theme–that acting ugly is not good.

Mar 3, 2007 - 10:53 am 3. Terrye:

Buddy:

I think you are giving her too much credit. I think she is just plain mean.

I can remember when Harriet Miers was nominated and Coulter had an elitist little fit about how Miers went to {OH MY GAWD!} state university. Not top drawer at all doncha know.

No I intend to show her about as much respect as she would probably show a working class dullard like little old me.

Mar 3, 2007 - 11:16 am 4. Carl Spackler:

Well, for over 40 years the left in their industries of Hollywood, Academia, Theater, and Psychology have been running to tear down every barrier and stultifying convention.

So, I watch the monster offspring of the leftist womb, and I am not surprised. Although, for some reason I can not muster much sympathy for poor Mr. Edwards, a tobacco chasing trial lawyer.

Mar 3, 2007 - 11:25 am 5. Buddy Larsen:

Maybe so, Terrye. The whole line-up of media partisans need to entertain as much as inform–and this so easily turns ‘mean’. The right’s Miers reaction is a peeve of mine, too. Just couldn’t stand the atmospherics, better to drive themselves into a tailspin. Alas.

Mar 3, 2007 - 11:33 am 6. promoguy:

Let’s see now

1. I’m against gay marriages – I’m a HOMOPHOBE

2. I’m against racial preferences-I’m a BIGOT

3. Bush is a murderer

4. Jews kill babies for their blood in preparing Matzoh

4. Bill Maher thinks the country would be better off if Cheney was dead.

4. Bill Maher thinks the guys who flew planes into the Twin Towers weren’t cowards.

Where’s the moral outrage from the left????

But Ann Coulter uses the “f”=faggot word and their world is turned upside down.

Mar 3, 2007 - 12:20 pm 7. TomTom:

The Dean rage for denunciation of Coulter is so very oldschool Soviet. But that’s the left for you. I would have called Edwards a worm. Girlie-men is OK, but faggot is not? The outrage (such a cheapened emotion nowadays) is outaline.

Mar 3, 2007 - 12:26 pm 8. Buddy Larsen:

If I had to make a best estimate, I’d say that the total volume of maxed-out nutjob rhetoric runs about 80/20 left/right. As several above point out, Ann Coulter used a mean word in reference to a context, she did not drool over the news of an assassination attempt on the vice-president. But, as long as the subject is raised, Bill Maher is surely among those that the world could do without.

Mar 3, 2007 - 12:52 pm 9. rascalfair:

Coulter’s remarks are unfortunate….she managed to insult every homosexual I know…. Imagine comparing those decent people to that dolt, John Edwards. On their behalf, I demand an apology.

Mar 3, 2007 - 1:26 pm 10. Terrye:

promoguy:

That is not the point. Yes, the Left as a general rule is vile. Deliberately vile. But that does not make doing something as stupid as calling Edwards a faggot ok. Especially at a political conference where other people might have a problem with it, but are stuck with her and her mouth just because they are there.

Who knows maybe next year she will call Hillary a dyke. What a hoot.Yep, that Ann is a real pistol.

Mar 3, 2007 - 1:59 pm 11. JK Ribera:

Coulter makes me cringe. Joking about people being “faggots” is bigoted pure and simple. I don’t know how it can be read any other way. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, as they say. I’ve had enough of her myself.

Mar 3, 2007 - 2:49 pm 12. promoguy:

Terrye, did she actually call Edwards a faggot? I will agree it was a silly comment. My point is when they stop calling me a homophobe and a bigot and Bush a murderer, maybe then I’ll be a bit more sensitive. And Hillary a dyke, wowie!!!

What a thrill typing those words.

Mar 3, 2007 - 2:53 pm 13. Roger:

Promoguy, I have a gay son and I find your words repellent and bigoted. I don’t know whether you are a homophobe or anything like that, but I do know that what you said was offensive in the same way that the use of the word nigger is. Ann Coulter was not just silly, she was stupid, vulgar and self-serving. She wasn’t content for that event to be about the candidates – it had to be about her. She cares more about that than about winning the War on Terror or anything else. Don’t fall into that trap. Grow up and suck it up. This is a big world. A lot of people in it are not like you. Learn to love and respect them.

Mar 3, 2007 - 4:49 pm 14. ricpic:

Well, Edwards does pay an awful lot of attention to his hair. ;^)

Mar 3, 2007 - 5:01 pm 15. promoguy:

Roger, you’re much better at the written word than I am. Read my post again. There is an uproar from the left on what she said. She shouldn’t have said what she did.

But let’s not get our t**s in a wringer when those of us on the right are called words, like homophobe and bigot.

It’s a one way party, with words.

And to work off a cliche, I actually have two good friends who are gay and a bunch who are black. None of them agree with me on anything political but they would never consider me homophobe or bigoted. But guess what the left does and like you I don’t like those words.

Sorry for the repellence.

Mar 3, 2007 - 5:16 pm 16. Roger:

I am well aware of the uproar, promoguy. I wrote about it. Unfortunately, Coulter asked for it – indeed probably wanted it for her own publicity purposes. When you have a career like Coulter’s, you have to continually top yourself in order to get noticed. It’s like drugs.

Apology accepted, but this is another example of why the terms left and right don’t interest me much anymore. I’m like Joe Friday. I’m just interested in the facts.

Mar 3, 2007 - 5:22 pm 17. Terrye:

Roger:

I agree. It was just tacky and I can’t believe people really try to defend her, she is probably happy with herself today.

Mar 3, 2007 - 6:57 pm 18. Harley:

“Semblable”? Okay, setting aside the smarty-pants showoff look-at-me word usage — ahh, so smart, our Roger, except, of course, when it comes to Shakespeare — it would be nice if Roger could condemn Coulter without the winger/urge to find some equivalence to a Democrat, in this case, oddly enuf, Howard Dean. Dean has his faults, no kidding. But suggesting he is the Coulter of the Left is both braindead and lazy.

Mar 3, 2007 - 7:24 pm 19. Terrye:

Harley:

I have offended friends on the right by going after Coulter, but when it comes to which side of the debate is more deliberately offensive and crude and just plain nasty, the Democrats win hands down. Not even close.

Mar 3, 2007 - 7:42 pm 20. Buddy Larsen:

Harley, to me, Dean lucks out in a Coulter comparison. Here’s my thinking:

Dumb name-calling aside, Coulter at least has not accused–not, as head of the RNC, accused–the other party of orchestrating 911.

Imagining how swell that little performance made the country look, to friend & foe alike, I’d say, in our look-see at comparisons, score one for Coulter.

And anyway, even if it was okay to make high-profile hints that the other party did 911 for political power, Dean’s conspiracy story tanked with the Bush polls, and the paranoia-inducement would now belong to Coulter (”the evil left did 911 in order to take back Congress”).

But note, even tho she is a mere entertainer/ commentator/ and not head of her party’s national committee, she has never stooped so low, while Howard Dean has in fact, while the leader and spokesman of his party’s national committee, stooped so low (and rather gleefully and unapologetically at that).

Mar 3, 2007 - 8:33 pm 21. Barrett:

Ann consistently uses what I would call acerbic wit to maker points. As a result, she can come across as less than sensitive and mean. Nevertheless, she often makes valid points even if you don’t like her style.

In my opinion, she often crosses the line. Whether that is motivated by it being all about Ann as some have suggested, obtaining ratings or something else, I don’t know. The faggot comment seems to have crossed the line.

However, the number of times the people on the Left have crossed the line is more than I can count. I agree with Terrye that when it comes down to “which side of the debate is more deliberately offensive and crude and just plain nasty, the Democrats win hands down”.

It would be nice if we could be more civil, but name calling has become an effective tactic when the facts escape oneself.

I second Roger’s Joe Friday position. Just give me the facts. Indeed, give me all of the facts. Then I can make an informed judgment.

But alas, people are often lazy and fall for the name calling when it benefits their position – informed or otherwise.

Mar 3, 2007 - 9:18 pm 22. Barrett:

The first line should read “make her” points. My typing was sloppy and I did not proof read. My apologies.

Mar 3, 2007 - 9:19 pm 23. Captain Hate:

Sod off Harley. Your arrogant snark adds nothing of substance. Go back to Kos and post with your peers.

Mar 3, 2007 - 9:21 pm 24. ricpic:

When Coulter makes her over the top remarks they’re always made in the spirit of wink-wink nudge-nudge, with the intent of getting under the skin of the opposition. Not so the haters on the left. Their verbal assaults are deadly serious. No comparison whatsoever.

Mar 4, 2007 - 6:45 am 25. Terrye:

ricpic:

I don’t care about the left. I am sick of saying that it is ok for Coulter to act like a bitch because there are nasty people on the left. Personally I think it is too bad that we can not take the Coulters and Frankens and Mahers and the Savages and put them on an island somewhere without any internet access. The world would probably be a more civil place without all of them.

Mar 4, 2007 - 10:15 am 26. Terrye:

My God people she was ranting about faggots at a CPAC conference.

Mar 4, 2007 - 10:16 am 27. WichitaBoy:

Thank you Roger for finally putting into words why I find that woman so repellant. Tasteless and dimwitted she is, but she is hardly alone there in our debased political culture. Somehow it is the fact that the tastelessness and dimwittedness are ultimately so self-serving that makes her extremely loathsome. Wouldn’t Howard Stern be a closer fit than Howard Dean?

Mar 4, 2007 - 11:28 am 28. Henry Bowman:

Well, I for one think Roger got it right this time. Ann Coulter is simply trying to be outrageous in order to attract attention to herself. She is typically not funny in her wacko diatribes, though I think she could be with a little effort; she’s really rather bright, I think. Calling Edwards a faggot is so absurd it simply staggers the imagination of reasonable folk. Calling him “the Breck Girl”, which I think Mr. Limbaugh does, is in greater taste and provides more information on both his hair and his intellect.

I think Ann Coulter needs to seriously re-evaluate her usefulness to the Republican Party (and the RP its association with her).

Mar 4, 2007 - 4:50 pm 29. CT Tom:

Ann Coulter is full of contradictions.

Mar 5, 2007 - 8:38 am 30. Buddy Larsen:

…partly truth and partly friction

Mar 5, 2007 - 8:43 am 31. zefal:

Ann speaks the truth. You do have to go to rehab if you use the “f” word and john edwards is a British cigarette. The guy’s a preener.

If some one wants to take issue with her opinion of him, that’s one thing, but I think it’s silly to attack her for her use of a word.

What happen to the sticks and stones and words are just sounds?

And where would Ratso Rizo be if he couldn’t use the new “f” word?

Mar 5, 2007 - 7:54 pm 32. Buddy Larsen:

I’d take Ratso Rizzo for president over John Edwards, any day. Ratso was real. He took Joe Buck to visit his dad’s gravesite, and while they were talking he said, “He was even dumber than you. He couldn’t even write his whole name. “X,” that’s what it ought to say on that goddamn headstone, one big lousy “X.”

Mar 5, 2007 - 8:41 pm 33. Bostonian:

zefal,
I wish she had stuck to calling Edwards a preener.

But she insulted gays as well as (trying to insult) Edwards.

Actually I think she insulted gays by associating Edwards with them, and I am only half joking.

Mar 6, 2007 - 1:37 pm 34. Steven Mitchell:

Coulter gives the left excuses and cover for acting the way they do. Even if what she did wasn’t crude and stupid, I still wouldn’t like it for that reason.

Mar 6, 2007 - 3:06 pm

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