Roger L. Simon

May 3rd, 2007 6:16 pm

Who is winning the Republican Debate (near end)?

Fred Thompson. By a lot.

Much as I admire Giuliani and agree with most of his policies, this whole debate was dull dull dull. The wise man stayed out.

One other observation: Ron Paul looks like an extra in a 1940s movie.

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1. Lem:

This thing was so dull people in comma where changing the channel.

BTW, did you all noticed what was NOT asked? the most important question of the day.

Mac or PC?

May 4, 2007 - 5:17 am 2. markus:

I can’t understand why Giuliani has so much trouble with the abortion issue. All he has to say is “I’m personally opposed to abortion, our diverse nation is sharply divided on this issue, it would be a good thing if Roe v. Wade were overturned and the issue was given to the people to decide through the fifty state legislatures.” I suppose his high-priced pollsters and consultants would tell him this is a terrible idea, that it would alienate everyone and please nobody. On the contrary, though I personally disagree with it, I think it is a logical compromise, neither explicitely pro-choice or pro-life.

May 4, 2007 - 8:26 am 3. Lem:

If you want to be president you can’t be on the abortion fence. You got to pick a side.

May 4, 2007 - 9:25 am 4. David Thomson:

“If you want to be president you can’t be on the abortion fence. You got to pick a side.”

Nonsense. The president merely needs to select judges who are loyal to the Constitution. Their personal opinions are not even slightly relevant. Roe vs. Wade was a stupid decision. Laurence Silberman is pro-choice regarding abortion—and still believes the U.S. Supreme Court blundered in its infamous 1973 decision.

May 4, 2007 - 11:11 am 5. Terrye:

I think social conservatives worrying about abortion need to stop and think about the fact that Gulliani wins in polls against major Democrats. Maybe they liked losing in 2006 and intend to make it a habit by running off everyone in the middle, but somehow I doubt they will like that so much once it happens. All that purity might seem a little hollow when they find themselves in the minority. So let’s see, run off the hispanics, run off th women…anyone else left?

May 4, 2007 - 11:53 am 6. Buddy Larsen:

I thought Tommy Thompson sounded good. Nice record, too.

May 4, 2007 - 12:05 pm 7. David:

I like Fred and want to see him run. I was in Illinois when Tommy was overlord of Wisconsin. I think he would make a good president.

May 4, 2007 - 12:18 pm 8. ricpic:

Why the Republicans agreed to be questioned by the execrable Chris Matthews, ex-aide to Tip O’Neill!, is beyond me.
They never fail to live up to their Stupid Party label.

May 4, 2007 - 12:52 pm 9. dclydew:

I think social conservatives worrying about abortion need to stop and think about the fact that Gulliani wins in polls against major Democrats. Maybe they liked losing in 2006 and intend to make it a habit by running off everyone in the middle

The term “Social Conservative” doesn’t seem to accurately fit with people that wish to see abortion made illegal at a Federal level. A “Social Conservative” would be against Roe v. Wade, but equally against the opposite of Roe v. Wade (Federal prohibition of abortion). So the folks who are anti-abortion (from a metaphysical perspective) might find a better road if they drop the pretense of being conservative and accept that they are somewhat more authoritarian and pro-federal than the label Conservative usually denotes. In fact, they might be much happier with their candidates if they create their own party that appealed to folks that would like their particular metaphysical position mandated by the federal government. However, if they are ‘conservative’ in all ways except on the abortion issue, maybe they should rethink their position, or realize that their emotional/metaphysical position may need to take a back seat when it comes to examining conservative candidates, as you pointed out.

May 4, 2007 - 1:58 pm 10. Sandy P:

country’s not sharply divided on abortion, never really was.

Polls for about 35 years were about 60%, we don’t like it, won’t pay for it, but we’re not going to tell you what to do.

What has changed the debate is medical techology and the millenials don’t like it.

Quit listening to shrivelled ovaries.

May 4, 2007 - 6:14 pm 11. Sandy P:

In short, the debate’s over, during bubba, IIRC, he had to specifically fund the LA chapter cos they were broke.

what they’re arguing about now is money, power and access….

May 4, 2007 - 6:15 pm

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