If I may….

Sometimes people make statements that bely their intellect, for instance,
“Coisty, I would recommend you never, never ever, say something like that to my face. Whether about Terrye or about me.”

Presumably this means that you would attempt to inflict physical harm to the person.
School yard response………..unworthy of you.

Had I not been reading your post’s for a few years now, I might not suspect what an intelligent, insightful person I have discovered you to be.

With that in mind………..

I suspect that Renzo was trying to broaden the scope of the argument and did not take the time to do a background check of the orator. He may have been more focused on the message contained in the speech, which is at the very least, worthy of consideration.

With respect,

KJ

Bingo!

Why this nonsense of tying it to

What’s really going on with illegal immigration, in my opinion, is that there is an employment sector where government taxes and regulation is expensive enough that employers choose to ignore it and hire workers off the books so they can profitably operate businesses. And they’re forced to do so or the market will shut down their businesses since the market price for their goods and services is driven by the producers with the lowest costs. Since employers are far more afraid of business competition than government enforcement, anything that doesn’t address the market realities, or tries to “legalize” this economy by imposing its regulations on it – such as “guest workers” – simply won’t work.

If you wanted to allow low-end employers to “legalize” things, you’d have to do the following:

1. Get rid of much workplace regulation, particularly expensive form-filing.

2. Redo workman’s comp so it isn’t specific to employers. Workman’s comp insurance is part of the reason many construction jobs are pretty much all-illegal nowadays.

3. Allow piecework pay and non-monetary compensation like room and board. Many illegals are paid at least partially in-kind, ie in the form of a cot in the back room, food, and a certain amount of cash per month, but this sort of pay approach is hard to do legally without stirring up a hornet’s nest of regulation, tax, and liability issues.

4. Abolish payroll withholding, and implement something like the “fair tax”. Taxation must be separate from payroll, or you’ll never address the fact that someone paying people off the books starts with a minimum of 15.7% advantage over someone who is paying them legally. The advantage rapidly shoots up to 30-40% if all payroll costs are included.

I don’t fear Mexicans, I fear the dogmatic people that think our way of life will end because of a new immigrant group (we see this same sick pattern repeated several times throughout American history, notably with the Know Nothings, so Coisty and ricpic are joining up with a noble group of Americans who have embarrassed the rest of us for generations). I don’t fear Muslims. I fear the dogmatic psychology of Muslim extremists. I don’t even fear Liberals or Conservatives, I fear the dogmatic mindset of any group that thinks that they have all the right answers and the “OTHERS” are not only WRONG, but evil and hate America to boot.

What he said.

The world needs a lot of things, but Newsweek isn’t one of them. ‘Read it every week for the latest predictions and prescriptions, helpfully illustrated by last week’s most important news. You’ll get insights of unfathomable depth carefully presented by the most informed, best-connected writers so that someone like you can understand the issues that everyone will be talking about from Edgartown to Georgetown. Don’t be at a loss for the right cliche at your next social function, or feel out of place because you didn’t get reminded about the plot details of the unfolding narrative. You don’t want to have people calling you a George Bush. This way to the egress. See you next week. And remember not to confuse yourself by reading old issues.’ It’s hard to believe that I once had subscriptions to some of these hokey cliche-delivery platforms. That was another world, the one Zakaria still thinks he lives in.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp

Then post…