Comments on: The BBC and the Queen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:02:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Pooh http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88764 Pooh Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:05:29 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88764 "I'm not well versed on the "boycott" to witch the writer intellectual Jacobson refers to." That's the academic boycott of Israeli universities by British academics. There were a number of other excellent speeches including one by Princess Diana's lawyer (also at YouTube). The Jews of Britain are under attack. According to one distinguised refugee from Nazi Germany things are as bad as the late 1930s. I had hoped that Pajamas would cover this meeting. Obviously, they have more important fish to fry. “I’m not well versed on the “boycott” to witch the writer intellectual Jacobson refers to.”

That’s the academic boycott of Israeli universities by British academics.

There were a number of other excellent speeches including one by Princess Diana’s lawyer (also at YouTube).

The Jews of Britain are under attack. According to one distinguised refugee from Nazi Germany things are as bad as the late 1930s. I had hoped that Pajamas would cover this meeting. Obviously, they have more important fish to fry.

]]> By: ricpic http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88763 ricpic Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:55:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88763 One look at Liebowitz is enough to make a sane person run screaming into the woods. One look at Liebowitz is enough to make a sane person run screaming into the woods.

]]> By: valjean http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88762 valjean Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:29:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88762 Lem, Sorry to be so pedantic, but I think your "witch" is actually "which." (Or occasionally "that.") Unless this is some blog lingo to witch I'm not attuned. Your points are good -- but I'll twitch less reading them if you'll correct this ... thanks. Lem,

Sorry to be so pedantic, but I think your “witch” is actually “which.” (Or occasionally “that.”) Unless this is some blog lingo to witch I’m not attuned.

Your points are good — but I’ll twitch less reading them if you’ll correct this … thanks.

]]> By: Lem http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88761 Lem Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:01:37 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88761 I'm not well versed on the "boycott" to witch the writer intellectual Jacobson refers to. Nevertheless, I did enjoy the speech. From what I could tell, It was a spoken fisking of the Independent. I’m not well versed on the “boycott” to witch the writer intellectual Jacobson refers to.

Nevertheless, I did enjoy the speech. From what I could tell, It was a spoken fisking of the Independent.

]]> By: Pooh http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88760 Pooh Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:29:08 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88760 <b>OT: Major speech on anti-Semitism in Britain by leading UK writer and intellectual Howard Jacobson (video)</b> <a href="http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=1253" rel="nofollow">Howard Jacobson's Speech</a> <a href="http://www.contemporarywriters.com/authors/?p=auth53" rel="nofollow">About Howard Jacobson</a> OT: Major speech on anti-Semitism in Britain by leading UK writer and intellectual Howard Jacobson (video)

Howard Jacobson’s Speech

About Howard Jacobson

]]> By: Luther McLeod http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88759 Luther McLeod Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:53:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88759 krothering Thanks for fleshing out what I was attempting to say above. Such as "dignity and restraint" and "strong, thoughtful and brave". Attributes we should all attempt to emulate. Well said. krothering

Thanks for fleshing out what I was attempting to say above. Such as “dignity and restraint” and “strong, thoughtful and brave”. Attributes we should all attempt to emulate. Well said.

]]> By: photoncourier.blogspot.com http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88758 photoncourier.blogspot.com Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:25:58 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88758 Mike K--"the collapse of education"--speaking of which, have you seen <a href="http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5074.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>? Mike K–”the collapse of education”–speaking of which, have you seen this?

]]> By: MarkD http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88757 MarkD Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:24:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88757 Unfortunately, not everyone knows the BBC are liars. Once you know that someone lies, it's not much of a problem. Unfortunately, not everyone knows the BBC are liars. Once you know that someone lies, it’s not much of a problem.

]]> By: krothering http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88756 krothering Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:26:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88756 This middle-aged black guy grew up on Hollywood images of British society, and I loved them. The old Edwardian stereotypes of cool, courtesy and understated courage struck me as intensely admirable. I was always proud to be an American, but if I couldn't have been, I'd have wanted to be a Brit--John Steed of The Avengers, or maybe The Brigadier of Dr. Who. I knew perfectly well that these characters were fictional and the real world was nothing like this, but I still loved and admired this fictional ideal. I think it was still inside my head back when Princess Di was killed. And I think that's why I was so horrified by the reaction of the British public--the bathetic, whiny public hysteria. Even more horrifying was the way the whole country seemed to turn on Queen Elizabeth, pretty much the only public figure who seemed intent on conducting herself with dignity and restraint. I loved the very traits that now inspired so much hatred in her subjects. A certain idea of England died for me that day. Just as well; it was a false idea. But still, I think it's clear that any country who could despise someone like Elizabeth has lost something very important to its national character. I think the makers of the movie The Queen understand this. Roger Simon seems to imply that it's accidental that the movie makes you like Elizabeth. I think that was exactly the filmmakers' intent. She's clearly shown as a thoroughly admirable and sympathetic figure--isolated and a little clueless, but strong, thoughtful and brave. A few million more like her, and Britain will be just fine. And maybe even cool again. This middle-aged black guy grew up on Hollywood images of British society, and I loved them. The old Edwardian stereotypes of cool, courtesy and understated courage struck me as intensely admirable. I was always proud to be an American, but if I couldn’t have been, I’d have wanted to be a Brit–John Steed of The Avengers, or maybe The Brigadier of Dr. Who. I knew perfectly well that these characters were fictional and the real world was nothing like this, but I still loved and admired this fictional ideal.

I think it was still inside my head back when Princess Di was killed. And I think that’s why I was so horrified by the reaction of the British public–the bathetic, whiny public hysteria. Even more horrifying was the way the whole country seemed to turn on Queen Elizabeth, pretty much the only public figure who seemed intent on conducting herself with dignity and restraint. I loved the very traits that now inspired so much hatred in her subjects.

A certain idea of England died for me that day. Just as well; it was a false idea. But still, I think it’s clear that any country who could despise someone like Elizabeth has lost something very important to its national character.

I think the makers of the movie The Queen understand this. Roger Simon seems to imply that it’s accidental that the movie makes you like Elizabeth. I think that was exactly the filmmakers’ intent. She’s clearly shown as a thoroughly admirable and sympathetic figure–isolated and a little clueless, but strong, thoughtful and brave. A few million more like her, and Britain will be just fine. And maybe even cool again.

]]> By: jedrury http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88755 jedrury Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:51:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/07/12/the-bbc-and-the-queen/#comment-88755 Oberfuehrer is out of bounds, over the edge. I can not recall a TV commentator to be so viciously partisan. Television has gone to another level of partisan commentary; all the time saying "see what Fox has done." But, when you watch Fox, it is conservative, but middle of the road conservativism. Hannity is balanced by Commes and O'Reilly always has on someone to jost with and offers a certain "give and take" to any liberal. Oberfuehrer, however, is the Jimmie Swaggert of bombastic liberal outrage, mimicking Edward R. Murrow with his "good night and good luck," who only pits liberal with liberal. I seldom see a conservative voice on it. There is no balance on MSNBC. There is no debate. Oberfuehrer is out of bounds, over the edge.

I can not recall a TV commentator to be so viciously partisan. Television has gone to another level of partisan commentary; all the time saying “see
what Fox has done.” But, when you watch Fox,
it is conservative, but middle of the road conservativism. Hannity is balanced by Commes and O’Reilly always has on someone to jost with and offers a certain “give and take” to any liberal.
Oberfuehrer, however, is the Jimmie Swaggert of bombastic liberal outrage, mimicking Edward R. Murrow with his “good night and good luck,”
who only pits liberal with liberal. I seldom see a conservative voice on it. There is no balance on MSNBC. There is no debate.

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