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September 2nd, 2007 8:18 am

Baldwin on Craig – oh shut up!

Incredible as it may seem, (father of the year!) Alec Baldwin is back opining on Sen. Larry Craig on the HuffPost. Naturally, Baldwin, living proof of the clich&eacute about the intelligence of actors, seizes on this as a gay self-realization issue and completely misses the point.

But if Craig has the chance, especially now that his Republican colleagues have cut his throat, maybe he will experience a change of heart and realize that to be gay, whether he is or not, ought not be a shameful thing, let alone a crime, for anyone. Had he embraced at least that he might still be a Senator today.

Hello, Alec, this isn’t about gay rights or one’s ability to come out or not. No one gives a damn what Larry Craig does in a Holiday Inn Express. This is about having sex in a public bathroom in an airport where people bring their children. Doesn’t matter whether you’re doing it with a man, woman or a baboon. But narcissist Alec can’t get beyond his puerile argument out of 1972 with its obvious not-very-subconscious intention to highlight the eclipsed movie star as some kind of “true liberal” and not some disgusting hothead who yells insults at his daughter.

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9 Comments

1. Stephen_M:

Yup. Every word.

Baldwin. I rarely thought harshly about him. Just another Hollywood crank, I figured. Until that insanity with his daughter.
Maybe it’s unfair but after his blow up at his daughter I’ve been seeing something really sinister in Baldwin’s,
“If we were in another country… we would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families”.

It’s important how a man treats his children.
I’ll never again be so breezy about Baldwin’s temper problem.

Looking forward to your comments on another fine showbiz moralist and father – Arthur Miller.

Sep 2, 2007 - 12:09 pm 2. Roger:

Stephen M, the Arthur Miller story is heartbreaking and almost surreal. It does make you reconsider Miller’s work in some ways.

But of course Miller and Baldwin are not even faintly to be compared as artists. Death of a Salesman is a masterpiece of our culture. Baldwin is just another actor.

Sep 2, 2007 - 12:14 pm 3. Lem:

Sorry Roger but I think it was and is about gay sex.

Propositioning adultS should not be a criminal ofence. Clinton used the oval office and we were told to mind our business, that he was entitled to his private life. A public bathroom is in my opinion no were near as prime real state as the oval office.

As George Will said today on ‘This Week’, the sort of thing the senator is being accused of goes on in thousands of bars every Friday night.

We have a senator that drove off a bridge drunk and left a young woman to dye with a quasi permanent seat.

When they say is not about gay sex, it about gay sex.

Sep 2, 2007 - 3:05 pm 4. Barry Dauphin:

Then why didn’t Craig go into a gay bar? Trolling bathrooms for sex is different than what happens in bars every Friday night.

So it would have been OK with everyone if he had gone into the women’s bathroom and used some pick-up lines? After all that happens in bars every Friday night too. So whatever happens in bars every Friday night is OK to do everywhere else? Do they have sex right there in the bar every Friday night? Oh was the policeman supposed to have sex with him before arresting him, so he could be sure?

BTW kids aren’t allowed into bars every Friday night, but they are allowed into the bathrooms, which is partly why the police have sting operations in particular ones to begin with. But the police don’t try to close down gay bars anymore. Are the police ipso facto homophobic by having sting operations in bathrooms?

And Ted Kennedy could probably do just about anything and keep his seat. It’s one of the perks of being a Kennedy.

Sep 2, 2007 - 3:45 pm 5. Captain Hate:

Why should Baldwin care about Craig’s sexuality since he moved to France after GWB got re-elected. Standup guys like him consider their word their bond, right? Kind of like how he will honor Kim ’til death?

Sep 2, 2007 - 4:40 pm 6. Charlie (Colorado):

Uh, guys, Craig didn’t proposition anyone. At most he gave some pretty subtle signals that he was open to gay sex; at worst, he was caught by a police officer trolling for queers and willing to abuse his power and position to get Craig to plead down, knowing that if Craig didn’t plead down, and fought the charge, Craig’s life would be over anyway.

I mean, honey, I been propositioned. That wasn’t one.

Sep 2, 2007 - 8:02 pm 7. BenJCarter:

Seems to me the bathroom is the hookup point, not the ultimate destination. Forget the kids. A US senator can afford digs far better than the urine soaked floors of an airport bathroom to get his freak on. At least I hope a US senator can afford better, more discreet accommodations, to dip his wick or whatever he plead guilty to.

Is it about sex in a public bathroom, or hypocrisy?

He has acted as if being gay is bad. Then he does some (apparently) gay stuff. EG: He is a Hypocrite.

And that makes him a worse POLITICIAN than many others HOW?

Now if only Democrats proven so hypocritical will stand down so easily.

Sep 2, 2007 - 9:12 pm 8. Barry Dauphin:

For any who are interested, you can read the police report of the incident here.

Sep 3, 2007 - 4:02 pm 9. mikem:

The Washington Post has a supportive write up on Mike Rogers and his campaign to expose those who fail to live up to their image and voting record.
What was once seen as one of the most despicable sides of human nature, an eagerness to pry into other’s private lives inorder to destroy them for political and idealogical points, is now praised as morally right by some bloggers and journalists. But they themselves are now exposed as petty, hateful ogres who delight in the destruction of other’s lives. Some are even now claiming they do so “for the children”. The
nerve.

Just think of the moral righteousness I could award myself with a camera and pen outside some local DC gay bar. Imagine the higher planes of morality I too could reach exposing the hypocrisy of married men and women who cheat. Or “Just Say No” teachers and parents who smoke some herb that I could conveniently supply (for the sake of the children, of course). Yes, suddenly it is so clear.

Craig has been exposed as a closeted gay conservative. He, his family, and “the children” will suffer, of course. But Roger and his ilk are also exposed, and they represent a much uglier face of human failing.

Sep 4, 2007 - 2:00 pm

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