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	<title>Comments on: Gore Deserves Nobel Prize More Than Oscar</title>
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		<title>By: tim maguire</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim maguire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger: thank you for describing some of the inside baseball on documentary awards.

Interesting how a perfectly reasonable rule (that voters must have actually seen the documentary they are voting on) could have effects that debase the award (by making it susceptible to manipulation) through the innately obscure nature of most submissions.

The law of intended consequences, I guess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger: thank you for describing some of the inside baseball on documentary awards.</p>
<p>Interesting how a perfectly reasonable rule (that voters must have actually seen the documentary they are voting on) could have effects that debase the award (by making it susceptible to manipulation) through the innately obscure nature of most submissions.</p>
<p>The law of intended consequences, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: wmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will slightly disagree with you, in that &#039;as stated&#039; there is essentially no chance that the Gore Theory is correct, although there is a plausible argument to be made that human activity is contributing at some (most likely small) level.

The most important element of this that I find is the pre-Copernican viewpoint of the Warmers.  Originally, humans knew that they did not control things such as weather, but needed to.  Thus, they created religion so that they could beseech the gods, who were in control, to do the job for them.  Over time, this elevated humans to be the reason for the existence of the universe, leading to the belief that the sun and planets revolved around them.  Copernicus, overturned that (credits also to Galileo) by pointing out that humans aren&#039;t really all that important after all.  Having given up gods, the left still wants to be the at the center of it all, so if the globe is warming, then we must be responsible for it.  If we were not responsible, since there are no gods to appeal to, then we could not change it.  So it must be our fault.  That is the only way we can maintain control (or the illusion of it).

Unfortunately, this veiwpoint carries into otheer areas as well; the &#039;anti-war&#039; crowd expresses a viewpoint which clearly states that if the U.S. were not in Iraq there would be no war.  This is both stupid and arrogant, since any rational observer would conclude that the character of the war would change (and it would get uglier - witness the S.E. Asia wars after we abandoned the people there), but it certainly would not end.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will slightly disagree with you, in that &#8216;as stated&#8217; there is essentially no chance that the Gore Theory is correct, although there is a plausible argument to be made that human activity is contributing at some (most likely small) level.</p>
<p>The most important element of this that I find is the pre-Copernican viewpoint of the Warmers.  Originally, humans knew that they did not control things such as weather, but needed to.  Thus, they created religion so that they could beseech the gods, who were in control, to do the job for them.  Over time, this elevated humans to be the reason for the existence of the universe, leading to the belief that the sun and planets revolved around them.  Copernicus, overturned that (credits also to Galileo) by pointing out that humans aren&#8217;t really all that important after all.  Having given up gods, the left still wants to be the at the center of it all, so if the globe is warming, then we must be responsible for it.  If we were not responsible, since there are no gods to appeal to, then we could not change it.  So it must be our fault.  That is the only way we can maintain control (or the illusion of it).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this veiwpoint carries into otheer areas as well; the &#8216;anti-war&#8217; crowd expresses a viewpoint which clearly states that if the U.S. were not in Iraq there would be no war.  This is both stupid and arrogant, since any rational observer would conclude that the character of the war would change (and it would get uglier &#8211; witness the S.E. Asia wars after we abandoned the people there), but it certainly would not end.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterUK.</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterUK.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1677&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;British Judge points out errors in Al Gore&#039;s advert for carbon offsets&lt;/a&gt;.Al thinks that Greenland the earth&#039;s largest island is going to melt.Yeah Al and they called it Green.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1677" rel="nofollow">British Judge points out errors in Al Gore&#8217;s advert for carbon offsets</a>.Al thinks that Greenland the earth&#8217;s largest island is going to melt.Yeah Al and they called it Green.</p>
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		<title>By: srlucado</title>
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		<dc:creator>srlucado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to look at the bright side.  Gore, one of the most pedantic and boring people on the planet, won an award that his former boss tried everything to win for himself.

Ol&#039; Bill probably has trouble sleeping at night just thinking about it.

No need to worry, though.  Emperor Hillary will name the first re-education camp after Gore, and put his head on a pike at the entry gate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to look at the bright side.  Gore, one of the most pedantic and boring people on the planet, won an award that his former boss tried everything to win for himself.</p>
<p>Ol&#8217; Bill probably has trouble sleeping at night just thinking about it.</p>
<p>No need to worry, though.  Emperor Hillary will name the first re-education camp after Gore, and put his head on a pike at the entry gate.</p>
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		<title>By: qrstuv</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;co2 is a lagging indicator and not a cause&quot;

I want to draw attention to this.

Historically, the warming of oceans has occurred BEFORE a rise in the co2. (You can google this &amp;  find the paper.)

Warmers do not deny this fact. Rather they come up with bizarre* and non-physical &quot;explanations&quot; for it.

But it&#039;s a little embarrassing, so the warmers tend not to draw attention to it.

*If you think it is OK for the cause to follow the effect, work that theory in the next time you do homework in physics, chemistry, or engineering. Just see what your professor tells you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;co2 is a lagging indicator and not a cause&#8221;</p>
<p>I want to draw attention to this.</p>
<p>Historically, the warming of oceans has occurred BEFORE a rise in the co2. (You can google this &amp;  find the paper.)</p>
<p>Warmers do not deny this fact. Rather they come up with bizarre* and non-physical &#8220;explanations&#8221; for it.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s a little embarrassing, so the warmers tend not to draw attention to it.</p>
<p>*If you think it is OK for the cause to follow the effect, work that theory in the next time you do homework in physics, chemistry, or engineering. Just see what your professor tells you.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Hate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can it be any more banal than to give a &quot;peace&quot; prize for somebody droning on about &quot;Earth has a fever&quot;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can it be any more banal than to give a &#8220;peace&#8221; prize for somebody droning on about &#8220;Earth has a fever&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: reliapundit - the astute blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>reliapundit - the astute blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gore deserved neither.

the movie was not a doc&#039;.
and his efforts have nothing to do with peace anywhere and have not led to peace anywhere.

institutions which are dominated by the left use their powers to advance leftist causes.

AGW is a hoax propagated to increase taxes and regulations on industry and trade LONGTIME goals of the left.

climate change is natural and periodic.

co2 does not casue GW. co2 is a lagging indicator and not a cause; it is a relatively small part of the atmosphere (with man-made co2 being an even smaller part), and co2 is an inefficient conductor.

gore is a demagogue of the left.
the left likes him and is rewarding him.
like joe wilson and kerry and bj clinton.

end of story.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gore deserved neither.</p>
<p>the movie was not a doc&#8217;.<br />
and his efforts have nothing to do with peace anywhere and have not led to peace anywhere.</p>
<p>institutions which are dominated by the left use their powers to advance leftist causes.</p>
<p>AGW is a hoax propagated to increase taxes and regulations on industry and trade LONGTIME goals of the left.</p>
<p>climate change is natural and periodic.</p>
<p>co2 does not casue GW. co2 is a lagging indicator and not a cause; it is a relatively small part of the atmosphere (with man-made co2 being an even smaller part), and co2 is an inefficient conductor.</p>
<p>gore is a demagogue of the left.<br />
the left likes him and is rewarding him.<br />
like joe wilson and kerry and bj clinton.</p>
<p>end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Nieporent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is at least conceivable that Al Gore is correct that the anthropogenic causes of global warming are serious and need swift correction.&lt;/i&gt;

Not in your wildest dreams. If you believe in the anthropogenic causes of global warming, then the rational approach to solving the problem is the one proposed by Bjorn Lomborg, not by Al &quot;Chicken Little&quot; Gore. Also, what does Global Warming have to do with peace? The answer of course is nothing. However, just like the prize given to Jimmy &quot;I hate Jews&quot; Carter, the purpose was to make an anti-American political statement.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is at least conceivable that Al Gore is correct that the anthropogenic causes of global warming are serious and need swift correction.</i></p>
<p>Not in your wildest dreams. If you believe in the anthropogenic causes of global warming, then the rational approach to solving the problem is the one proposed by Bjorn Lomborg, not by Al &#8220;Chicken Little&#8221; Gore. Also, what does Global Warming have to do with peace? The answer of course is nothing. However, just like the prize given to Jimmy &#8220;I hate Jews&#8221; Carter, the purpose was to make an anti-American political statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger‚Äî

&lt;i&gt;Hoop Dreams&lt;/i&gt; probably would have won had it been nominated, but it wasn&#039;t and the nominating process was finally changed as it became ever clearer that box office success in the genre was too often being penalized so that less well known documentaries/documentarians would be recognized.  &lt;i&gt;Hoop Dreams&lt;/i&gt; did get a Film Editing nomination.  Score one for the Editors.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger‚Äî</p>
<p><i>Hoop Dreams</i> probably would have won had it been nominated, but it wasn&#8217;t and the nominating process was finally changed as it became ever clearer that box office success in the genre was too often being penalized so that less well known documentaries/documentarians would be recognized.  <i>Hoop Dreams</i> did get a Film Editing nomination.  Score one for the Editors.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim maguire, it&#039;s not quite that Hollywood disrespects the documentary form.  There are other things involved here, including the method for choosing the Best Documentary Oscar.  Academy members, like yours truly, are not permitted to vote in the category unless we can prove we have seen the films. This is a good idea in principle,but in practice means you have to go down to the Academy during the work week when they are all screening.  Hence a small number see and vote.  Those people are a small clique of very pedestrian, conventionally liberal documentarians themselves who have a strong business/ideological interest in who wins.  Hence some really good films of recent years like Hoop Dreams have been overlooked.  It&#039;s pathetic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim maguire, it&#8217;s not quite that Hollywood disrespects the documentary form.  There are other things involved here, including the method for choosing the Best Documentary Oscar.  Academy members, like yours truly, are not permitted to vote in the category unless we can prove we have seen the films. This is a good idea in principle,but in practice means you have to go down to the Academy during the work week when they are all screening.  Hence a small number see and vote.  Those people are a small clique of very pedestrian, conventionally liberal documentarians themselves who have a strong business/ideological interest in who wins.  Hence some really good films of recent years like Hoop Dreams have been overlooked.  It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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