Comments on: Gag me with a coke spoon! http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:10:29 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: AlanC http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91108 AlanC Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:38:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91108 Buddy you are one BAAADD man!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!! 8^) I've used that phrase for 50 years and that implication never crossed my mind. (Duh!!) Buddy you are one BAAADD man!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!
8^)

I’ve used that phrase for 50 years and that implication never crossed my mind. (Duh!!)

]]> By: Buddy Larsen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91107 Buddy Larsen Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:56:09 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91107 <i>"...close but no cigar"</i> (*whew!*) :-\ “…close but no cigar”

(*whew!*)
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]]> By: AlanC http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91106 AlanC Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91106 Buddy, you're close but no cigar. Likeable don't mean squat. The big four are: Experience, character, philosophy, policies. I'll give Obama character, but he flunks the other 3. Hillary flunks all 4. Experience - what have you run and how have you succeeded? Have you been effective? Likeable may play a small role here but not necessarily. Character - do you mean what you say and say what you mean. Are you trustworthy? Philosophy - what principles guide you decision making? This, combined with character will inform you on what to expect when the unexpected happens. Do you truly believe in individual rights and freedom or are you a statist? Policies - self evident, also informs on character and philosophy. Buddy, you’re close but no cigar.

Likeable don’t mean squat.

The big four are:

Experience, character, philosophy, policies.

I’ll give Obama character, but he flunks the other 3. Hillary flunks all 4.

Experience – what have you run and how have you succeeded? Have you been effective? Likeable may play a small role here but not necessarily.

Character – do you mean what you say and say what you mean. Are you trustworthy?

Philosophy – what principles guide you decision making? This, combined with character will inform you on what to expect when the unexpected happens. Do you truly believe in individual rights and freedom or are you a statist?

Policies – self evident, also informs on character and philosophy.

]]> By: Buddy Larsen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91105 Buddy Larsen Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:32:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91105 wellspring is sure right--if this wasn't planned, i'm a monkey's uncle--the hit, then the disavowal after the hit is safely injected into the campaign bloodstream. In fact the disavowal just added more headlines, spreading the shot deeper and wider. Maybe an Obama staffer ought to let slip "the GOP probably has proof that Hillary is a member of the Communist Party USA". Then Obama can fire the staffer (wink) and then spend the next week saying that he "...never said that Hillary is a Communist". TomTom, i agree that the Dems don't have a candidate that wouldn't be a mess--just the break between their own hard-left people vs middle America almost guarantees that their governance will take the form of permanent emergency disaster control (see "Pelosi/House"). But, give me Obama over Hillary any day. The three big things a person wants in a leader--to be right on the issues, trustworthy, and likeable--are being demonstrated by their campaigns, and so far Obama is okay on the latter two out of the three. Hillary may have him beat on issues but she's not even in the contest on the other two (which sort of moots her 'issues'). Myself, my feets is slowly, sort of by their will, climbing aboard the Romney bandwagon. The more i see & hear, the better i like. wellspring is sure right–if this wasn’t planned, i’m a monkey’s uncle–the hit, then the disavowal after the hit is safely injected into the campaign bloodstream. In fact the disavowal just added more headlines, spreading the shot deeper and wider.

Maybe an Obama staffer ought to let slip “the GOP probably has proof that Hillary is a member of the Communist Party USA”. Then Obama can fire the staffer (wink) and then spend the next week saying that he “…never said that Hillary is a Communist”.

TomTom, i agree that the Dems don’t have a candidate that wouldn’t be a mess–just the break between their own hard-left people vs middle America almost guarantees that their governance will take the form of permanent emergency disaster control (see “Pelosi/House”).

But, give me Obama over Hillary any day.

The three big things a person wants in a leader–to be right on the issues, trustworthy, and likeable–are being demonstrated by their campaigns, and so far Obama is okay on the latter two out of the three.

Hillary may have him beat on issues but she’s not even in the contest on the other two (which sort of moots her ‘issues’).

Myself, my feets is slowly, sort of by their will, climbing aboard the Romney bandwagon. The more i see & hear, the better i like.

]]> By: dclydew http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91104 dclydew Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:14:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91104 The Presidents of the future, will come from generations where 35% of Americans smoke pot regularly. 15 to 20% (depending on the study) have tripped on Acid, more than that on shrooms... coke and crack are a much smaller percentage, but the reality is that drug experimentation is gonna be likely with most future presidential candidates. Both our current and previous President obviously experimented (didn't inhale, what a crock), and it seems likely to me that if all of our politicians were honest, a lot more would have to raise their hands when asked. If we have to have a Democrat in power, Obama, at least, seems honest about his history and mistakes (unlike Mrs. Clinton and Family). Also, you should give Dennis a break. He stated rather clearly that he saw a flying object which he couldn't identify... that's not the same thing as saying "I saw Aliens". I see things that I can't identify all the time, flying or otherwise. The Presidents of the future, will come from generations where 35% of Americans smoke pot regularly. 15 to 20% (depending on the study) have tripped on Acid, more than that on shrooms… coke and crack are a much smaller percentage, but the reality is that drug experimentation is gonna be likely with most future presidential candidates. Both our current and previous President obviously experimented (didn’t inhale, what a crock), and it seems likely to me that if all of our politicians were honest, a lot more would have to raise their hands when asked. If we have to have a Democrat in power, Obama, at least, seems honest about his history and mistakes (unlike Mrs. Clinton and Family).

Also, you should give Dennis a break. He stated rather clearly that he saw a flying object which he couldn’t identify… that’s not the same thing as saying “I saw Aliens”. I see things that I can’t identify all the time, flying or otherwise.

]]> By: Wellspring http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91103 Wellspring Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:37:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91103 Jill, it's a good point but the trick is that this is a very thin veil for the real attack. After all, Clinton attacking Obama on drugs directly comes off as self-serving and hypocritical. This is how politicians attack each other these days. First, you use a proxy, a campaign staffer or someone high profile who isn't formally on your campaign at all (Andrew Young, anyone? hence his recent comments about Obama not being black enough). Then you basically say, "Look this isn't a valid allegation and it's a real cheap shot and we here at Clinton 08 are beyond that kind of thing. But those mean evil Republicans are bound to say, 'blah blah blah' in the general election because they're vicious petty bastards." This way you get to make your attack and with luck you get away with it. If the attack doesn't stick, you say, "look *I* don't believe that, I'm just saying what those evil Republicans are going to do." Jill, it’s a good point but the trick is that this is a very thin veil for the real attack. After all, Clinton attacking Obama on drugs directly comes off as self-serving and hypocritical. This is how politicians attack each other these days.

First, you use a proxy, a campaign staffer or someone high profile who isn’t formally on your campaign at all (Andrew Young, anyone? hence his recent comments about Obama not being black enough). Then you basically say, “Look this isn’t a valid allegation and it’s a real cheap shot and we here at Clinton 08 are beyond that kind of thing. But those mean evil Republicans are bound to say, ‘blah blah blah’ in the general election because they’re vicious petty bastards.”

This way you get to make your attack and with luck you get away with it. If the attack doesn’t stick, you say, “look *I* don’t believe that, I’m just saying what those evil Republicans are going to do.”

]]> By: jill bryant http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91102 jill bryant Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:55:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91102 Seemed like the article was about a Clinton person saying he didn't think Obama and Edwards were electable. That Obama's drug use was going to be questioned heavily by the Republicans if he gets the nomination. The headline IS misleading but, having done PR and talked to many journalists, I know the headline is not written by the writer. Doesn't seem incredibly nefarious or hypocritical to me but I'm sure I'm missing something. Seemed like the article was about a Clinton person saying he didn’t think Obama and Edwards were electable. That Obama’s drug use was going to be questioned heavily by the Republicans if he gets the nomination.

The headline IS misleading but, having done PR and talked to many journalists, I know the headline is not written by the writer.

Doesn’t seem incredibly nefarious or hypocritical to me but I’m sure I’m missing something.

]]> By: TomTom http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91101 TomTom Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:55:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91101 That Obama "seems to believe what he says" is faint praise, Buddy. That is entirely true of all psychotics also, no matter how bizarre their ideation. Belief in something doesn't make it so, and I surely do not share Obama's. That Obama “seems to believe what he says” is faint praise, Buddy. That is entirely true of all psychotics also, no matter how bizarre their ideation. Belief in something doesn’t make it so, and I surely do not share Obama’s.

]]> By: Buddy Larsen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91100 Buddy Larsen Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:41:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91100 Agree with the above--HRC's ''competence'' mantra is baloney, and neither of the two Clintons have what Obama has--that he seems to believe what he says. Agree with the above–HRC’s ”competence” mantra is baloney, and neither of the two Clintons have what Obama has–that he seems to believe what he says.

]]> By: Peter G. http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91099 Peter G. Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:49:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2007/12/12/gag-me-with-a-coke-spoon/#comment-91099 It seems a bit of a bi-partisan stretch to include in this post some politicians taking positions to help them get their party's nomination. The ones truly out there are worth mentioning (Huckabee, Kucinich), and the Clintons are due their backlash for having the gall to question anyone else's character. But Thompson and Giulani don't seem to belong in this group. Even Romney, whom seems too much of a flip-flopper to me, doesn't belong. Their respective compromises don't match the hypocrisy or outright lunacy of some others. These campaign decisions do matter though. Previously I thought I'd prefer the Clintons (for they are a packaged deal) to Obama, but I don't anymore. It seems a bit of a bi-partisan stretch to include in this post some politicians taking positions to help them get their party’s nomination. The ones truly out there are worth mentioning (Huckabee, Kucinich), and the Clintons are due their backlash for having the gall to question anyone else’s character. But Thompson and Giulani don’t seem to belong in this group. Even Romney, whom seems too much of a flip-flopper to me, doesn’t belong. Their respective compromises don’t match the hypocrisy or outright lunacy of some others.

These campaign decisions do matter though. Previously I thought I’d prefer the Clintons (for they are a packaged deal) to Obama, but I don’t anymore.

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