Those with “Bush Derangement Syndrome” are, by and large, DEMOCRATS who simply blame Bush for EVERYTHING that they don’t like.

Those who opposed/disliked Clinton, did so because of his sexual ASSAULT on women (and his lying about it [wagging his finger at us all]) – and, yes, they were (are) mostly Republicans.

The so-called “McCain derangement syndrome” is First, and foremost, based on McCain’s RECORD and ACTIONS against HIS OWN PARTY. It is, therefore, worthy of note that those who oppose McCain (at least until after the Republican Convention) are REPUBLICANS.

Where are the Democrats who oppose McCain?

Where are the Moderates who oppose McCain?

Is it “derangement” to not trust a man who has sided with the OTHER PARTY (McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman) – AND voted against Tax Cuts (one of the Republican Party’s “planks”)?

It’s NOT leadership to abandon one’s principles and side with “the opposition”. Is it not possible (probable) that McCain’s positions are NOT, in fact, in opposition to those of the Liberals in the Democrat party?

WHY, then, should Republicans (especially Conservative Republicans) vote FOR him?

YES – I DO think it would be EASIER to recover from the disaster that would result from ANY Democrat executing their “cut and run” policy. Yes, there WILL be a heavy price to pay, but getting Republicans to come to their senses (and act like Republicans again) is, in my opinion, MORE valuable than allowing someone like McCain to think that THEIR vision for America is correct.

Therefore, IF (and I sure hope not) McCain is the Nominee, I WILL NOT vote for POTUS.

I get the distinct impression that there is a majority of military types here that think McCain is NOT the person to be the nation’s Commander-In-Chief.

And, based on their arguments, with good reason.

Is this ‘derangement’? Or is Roger ‘projecting’?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

I have been a conservative longer than a lot of you have been alive and only vote Republican because that’s where the least liberal candiates usually are. I am an American first. Party labels aren’t going to mean much if we end up living in a socialist state with no freedom, property rights, gun rights, etc..

Also, as a veteran, I get pretty tired of having to hear of McCain referred to as a hero. So he spent some time as a prisoner and was mistreated. So were several thousand other servicemen in all our wars. (Read about Andersonville if you want to understand real mistreatment). At best, he is just another pilot who got his ass shot down and got captured. That doesn’t make him Sgt. York. The term “hero” is grossly over used today. I got news for you; everyone who serves in the military is not a hero, especially if they fail in carrying out their mission. After 7 years in the military I don’t consider myself worthy of wiping a true hero’s boots. None of our true military heroes that I know of have ever been pompous egotists like John McCain.

Worst of all, McCain is a lier. God hates a lier. If McCain is on the ballot, I’ll be out hunting on election day while I can still legally own a gun.

I treat them as I would my soldiers and I treated my soldiers as though they were my own kids.

It’s interesting how the two are so closely related, after all, an infantry company is made up, for the most part, of very young men.

Back on our off-topic discussion

“1. Kill them on the battlefield.
2. Capture survivors, stick them in front of a competent tribunal. The tribunal would weed out any innocents caught up in the battle, could provide POW status to those who were unwilling or conscripted fighters and could label all the others as independent agents operating outside law.
3. Innocents go directly home with some compensation for their inconvenience. POW and Independent Agents are questioned (using whatever means short of torture are available) POW’s are held until the end of hostilities (which in this case may be the rest of their lives), but held according to GC. Independent Agents once questioned… are shot… we can ask them what they would like on their Tombstone (pep and sausage maybe?).” — dclydew

I begin to see something of an approach that you might find interesting. Emphasis on the word, ‘might’.

It’s one that I’ve been contemplating since late 2001. I refer to it as the Pershing Technique.

Are you familiar with General of the Armies Pershing?

During the Moro [Muslim] Insurrection in the PIs he was a captain of infantry.

His technique, as I’ve heard it was to execute captured guerrillas by firing squad.

His one modification to the procedure was to have a pig slaughtered before the post-tied honorees and then the firing party would slather their bullets in the pig blood before loading their weapons and carrying out their duty.

The insurrection sort of collapsed.

Captain Pershing was recalled to Washington….and promoted DIRECTLY to general-officer….over a goodly number of his peers and superiors.

My variation on this technique would be that we do not execute the captured.

Rather, they are interned for the rest of their natural life.

That life is spent tending a prison farm.

On this farm there are pigs. They will, on occasion, tend the pigs.

They will not eat pig flesh or by-products during their internment. However, upon their death….

…their carcasses will be fed to the pigs.

Videos will be provided to Al Jezrel and YouTube.

“Seems like it would be cheaper than GitMo and all the bad press. I mean other than the cost of bullets and pizzas.” — dclydew

With my idea of a modified Pershing Technique, we might turn Gitmo into a money making activity while (1) meeting most, if not all, of your options and (2) dissuading our ‘friends’ from continuing their attacks on us.

It’ll take some time, but I think it will be VERY effective.

It’s sort of a lesson learned from when the characters in Hizballah kidnapped a Soviet diplomat.

The KGB did something like Pershing’s technique to the leader of Hizballah; kidnapped him, killed him, stuffed his genetals in his mouth, stuffed him in a bag and dropped him off at Hizballah HQ.

The Soviet diplomat was released, unharmed.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Here's how ya do it. If Capone puts one of your people in the hospital, you put one of his in the morgue. -- Sean Connery in The Untouchables]

“You could approach all of those people in exactly the same way, I dunno… maybe you do. ” — dclydew

….I do.

I treat all people, essentially the same. And, on occasion, I get the sort of result that Charlie (Colorado) was threatening me with.

Case in point….

…..a year ago, I was attending a Board of Directors meeting of an organization I belong to.

During the course of the meeting, the president of this board started dropping the F-bomb as part of his ‘management style’.

I said, loud and clear, “I don’t think that kind of language is appropriate.”

At this point the president of the organization, jumped to his feet and attempted to do what Charlie (Colorado) was threatening.

I managed to capture part of his failed efforts to assault me and give me the bum’s rush with my cell-phone camcorder. It is rather humorous.

It would have been much more ‘humorous’, if friends of his and mine had not blocked him as he ran back back and forth trying to get around the tables to me.

It would have been much more ‘interesting’ if he had succeeded….

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[God is alive, and Airborne-Ranger qualified. And so am I.]

P.S. Some guy in another venue was trying to do the same, much more recently. All because I stood up for the neighborhoods in my community against government mis-management and big business rapine interests.

I might be shocked by the latter, if it weren’t for the fact that, in Congress, one member almost thrashed another to death with his cane.

[Politics is never REALLY 'cordial'. Polite, maybe, never cordial.]

McCain as the Republican nominee would need those “very conservative” voters. He will encounter some of them at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington Feb. 7-9. His campaign Wednesday asked for McCain to speak there after rejecting an invitation to last year’s meeting. At CPAC, he might well consider providing “straight talk” about Samuel Alito and promising to veto any tax increase by a Democratic Congress.

Novak speaks of ‘very conservative’ voters in Florida, who were by the count I saw at the NYT were 27%. In SC they were 5%. So let’s call these guys the Super Conservatives. Are they the base of the party? They are the *energized* base of the party, and that is primarily because Karl Rove decided to make them that and because Ann Coulter has so much airtime. But they are not the majority of Republicans and that is what I’ve been struggling with all these years. It is why McCain’s candidacy, which in some ways I might have rather had Rudy, is very important to me.

I am rather shocked to see how Patterico has crawled deep into the Romney foxhole and is tossing bombs towards McCain, but I’m willing to categorically deal with the complaints against McCain. I think they’re all red herrings but I am willing to check to see exactly how red they are.

Herring One: McCain Feingold
I haven’t heard one cogent explanation on exactly how McCain Feingold operates to restrain free speech. This one just passes through conservative lips without going through the proper brain channels, rather like ‘Halliburton’ in liberal throats. Bloody Red Herring

Herring Two: Immigration
There is no immigration bill. So who has the best idea that can actually pass Congress is an open question. But what people who blame McCain for this seem to forget that his is the direction that the President wanted. So you can’t say McCain was out in left field about this. Today he is willing to split this into separate parts which is the practical route. Secure the border first. This is his mantra and there is nothing wrong with that. The fact that there is no fence on the border is not McCain’s fault any more than it’s Duncan Hunter’s fault. It’s a national security issue.

As for the Z Visa. Well it’s reasonable to say that the jury is out on all of those immigration provisions. Nobody came up with a solution, and everybody has to be aware of that. I’m not sure that Republicans should be mad at McCain for going with the president. But this is an issue I’m certainly willing to get into the weeds on. The problem is that there’s only so much you can make an issue over dead legislation. Nothing happened. Because nothing happened, he changed his mind. You can’t ask more of a principled man. Slightly Pink Herring.

Herring Three: Keating Five
No indictment. No conviction. No problem. Red herring.

Herring Four: Dissing Alito
Who the hell is Alito, and who knew or cared about him before his name was proffered? This is clearly a litmus test and an example of the degree of unanimity (read groupthink) that the Super Conservatives require in order to succeed.

You could approach all of those people in exactly the same way, I dunno… maybe you do. But, I think that would be an exception to the general behavior of humans.

“I think you might want to refine your posts a little, but that’s more etiquette than anything else. ” — dclydew

What!??!?!?! You’d have me be different than I am??!??!?!!!!!

Where is the celebration of ‘diversity’, here?

Or, as one superior officer once said….

….”His sense of tact is best described as ‘He attacked’.”

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Ride hard, shoot straight and ALWAYS tell the truth. -- Cyrus the Great]