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		<title>By: dclydew</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/06/putting-my-finger-in-a-bee-hive/#comment-92358</link>
		<dc:creator>dclydew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;stop with the &#039;you people&#039; thing, Michael.&lt;/i&gt;

Because &quot;you people&quot; seems so much more offensive than being called one of the worst dictators in the 20th century? I would say MJT&#039;s response was more than polite.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>stop with the &#8216;you people&#8217; thing, Michael.</i></p>
<p>Because &#8220;you people&#8221; seems so much more offensive than being called one of the worst dictators in the 20th century? I would say MJT&#8217;s response was more than polite.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Totten</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/06/putting-my-finger-in-a-bee-hive/#comment-92357</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. Totten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;stop with the &#039;you people&#039; thing, Michael.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, okay. Sorry...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>stop with the &#8216;you people&#8217; thing, Michael.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, okay. Sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/06/putting-my-finger-in-a-bee-hive/#comment-92356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that &#039;you people&#039; reference is an omage to Rush.

see, MJT is a Rush Limbauh listener ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that &#8216;you people&#8217; reference is an omage to Rush.</p>
<p>see, MJT is a Rush Limbauh listener <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stop with the &#039;you people&#039; thing, Michael.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stop with the &#8216;you people&#8217; thing, Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Totten</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/02/06/putting-my-finger-in-a-bee-hive/#comment-92354</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. Totten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AlanC: &lt;i&gt;As a conservative I&#039;m getting annoyed by all this crap about &quot;whiny&quot;, &quot;purist&quot; conservatives and how we should be ignored and laughed at.&lt;/i&gt;

You follow &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; with &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt;?

&lt;i&gt;I&#039;d vote for him on the grounds that Mussolini is less evil than Stalin.&lt;/i&gt;

You aren&#039;t whiny, you&#039;re as unhinged as the Bush=Hitler people.

I&#039;m going to start calling you people the Wilderness-wing of the GOP.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AlanC: <i>As a conservative I&#8217;m getting annoyed by all this crap about &#8220;whiny&#8221;, &#8220;purist&#8221; conservatives and how we should be ignored and laughed at.</i></p>
<p>You follow <i>that</i> with <i>this</i>?</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;d vote for him on the grounds that Mussolini is less evil than Stalin.</i></p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t whiny, you&#8217;re as unhinged as the Bush=Hitler people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to start calling you people the Wilderness-wing of the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: AlanC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlanC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a conservative I&#039;m getting annoyed by all this crap about &quot;whiny&quot;, &quot;purist&quot; conservatives and how we should be ignored and laughed at.  Look at the issues and how far left he actually is.


A Scoop Jackson Democrat is the closest analog for McCain that I&#039;ve heard.

Other than the WoT and Pork I don&#039;t know of any major issue that McC could be considered conservative.

Immigration?  not hardly.

Judges?  not hardly (Bork was not conservative)

Taxes?   nope

Free Speech?  Oh, right.  BTW Roger, I&#039;ve asked you twice if you would run a paid advertisement from me in PJM come October supporting one of the candidates.  Well......hmmmmm.......?  Oh that&#039;s right IT&#039;S ILLEGAL thanks to McCain.

So, 2 out of 8 or 9 hardly makes him a conservative unless you&#039;re comparing him the the extreme left. Of course that&#039;s the pitiful choice we have. The only way that McCain could even come close to getting active support from me would be to name Fred as VP.


Luckily for me I can write in Fred come November and it won&#039;t matter in the slightest since I vote in MA. Somehow McCain won&#039;t have much run there.

If I DID vote in a state that it might matter in, I&#039;d vote for him on the grounds that Mussolini is less evil than Stalin.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a conservative I&#8217;m getting annoyed by all this crap about &#8220;whiny&#8221;, &#8220;purist&#8221; conservatives and how we should be ignored and laughed at.  Look at the issues and how far left he actually is.</p>
<p>A Scoop Jackson Democrat is the closest analog for McCain that I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>Other than the WoT and Pork I don&#8217;t know of any major issue that McC could be considered conservative.</p>
<p>Immigration?  not hardly.</p>
<p>Judges?  not hardly (Bork was not conservative)</p>
<p>Taxes?   nope</p>
<p>Free Speech?  Oh, right.  BTW Roger, I&#8217;ve asked you twice if you would run a paid advertisement from me in PJM come October supporting one of the candidates.  Well&#8230;&#8230;hmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.?  Oh that&#8217;s right IT&#8217;S ILLEGAL thanks to McCain.</p>
<p>So, 2 out of 8 or 9 hardly makes him a conservative unless you&#8217;re comparing him the the extreme left. Of course that&#8217;s the pitiful choice we have. The only way that McCain could even come close to getting active support from me would be to name Fred as VP.</p>
<p>Luckily for me I can write in Fred come November and it won&#8217;t matter in the slightest since I vote in MA. Somehow McCain won&#8217;t have much run there.</p>
<p>If I DID vote in a state that it might matter in, I&#8217;d vote for him on the grounds that Mussolini is less evil than Stalin.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of those upset conservatives have been strong supporters of Giuliani or whoever, and they are in the middle of sobbing in their beer at the local pub.  But..  this is FEBRUARY.  The election, the real one, is in NOVEMBER.  There is therefore plenty of time for all to get over the hangover and become thinking adults.

As a Canadian, I like McCain because he is crazy enough to bomb Mecca if events make that an option.  That is the kind of President the USA and the West needs!

Also, the Senate is a clubby, collegial place, and a lot of McCain&#039;s political history reflects that.  However, the Oval Office is a lonely place, which may be a shock to McCain, but then he is basically a very conservative guy, so... time will tell.

And.  The President, like the Congress, is constrained by the Constitution;  and all the other political power points through the US.  His real value is as a war leader, and McCain will be a good one.

I hope Hillary is the Dem nominee, by the way.  McCain&#039;s age will not be such a disadvantage against her, as it would be against Obama.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of those upset conservatives have been strong supporters of Giuliani or whoever, and they are in the middle of sobbing in their beer at the local pub.  But..  this is FEBRUARY.  The election, the real one, is in NOVEMBER.  There is therefore plenty of time for all to get over the hangover and become thinking adults.</p>
<p>As a Canadian, I like McCain because he is crazy enough to bomb Mecca if events make that an option.  That is the kind of President the USA and the West needs!</p>
<p>Also, the Senate is a clubby, collegial place, and a lot of McCain&#8217;s political history reflects that.  However, the Oval Office is a lonely place, which may be a shock to McCain, but then he is basically a very conservative guy, so&#8230; time will tell.</p>
<p>And.  The President, like the Congress, is constrained by the Constitution;  and all the other political power points through the US.  His real value is as a war leader, and McCain will be a good one.</p>
<p>I hope Hillary is the Dem nominee, by the way.  McCain&#8217;s age will not be such a disadvantage against her, as it would be against Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: dougf</title>
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		<dc:creator>dougf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visit some &#039;conservative&#039; sites and let me tell you ---- they don&#039;t like McCain.

The prevailing attitude seems to be that they can piss away the election in a fit of pique and the a grateful desperate Nation will turn to them after a sufficient period of Democratic Rule. They actually go so far as to directly state that they don&#039;t care if the country goes down the tubes as long as :

A. They don&#039;t have to vote for McCain, and
B. The Democrats are in charge when it happens.

At this point I am fully in support of any strategy that might allow McCain to win in November and simultaneously get these yahoos out of any position of influence.

The problem is that there are just not enough Roger Simons or Michael Tottens out there. There just aren&#039;t. So some sucking up to the yahoos is unhappily required.

More&#039;s the pity. And the problem.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visit some &#8216;conservative&#8217; sites and let me tell you &#8212;- they don&#8217;t like McCain.</p>
<p>The prevailing attitude seems to be that they can piss away the election in a fit of pique and the a grateful desperate Nation will turn to them after a sufficient period of Democratic Rule. They actually go so far as to directly state that they don&#8217;t care if the country goes down the tubes as long as :</p>
<p>A. They don&#8217;t have to vote for McCain, and<br />
B. The Democrats are in charge when it happens.</p>
<p>At this point I am fully in support of any strategy that might allow McCain to win in November and simultaneously get these yahoos out of any position of influence.</p>
<p>The problem is that there are just not enough Roger Simons or Michael Tottens out there. There just aren&#8217;t. So some sucking up to the yahoos is unhappily required.</p>
<p>More&#8217;s the pity. And the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree that McCain is not a Republican, or even not a conservative.  He is a guy that is solid conservative on some issues, weakly conservative on some issues, and completely off the reservation on some others. This puts him well to the right of Scoop Jackson (or Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller).  But even assuming for the sake of argument that Jim R. is correct, a Scoop clone is a vast improvement over Clinton or Obama.

People should forget &quot;strategic&quot; voting and follow one simple rule:  In every election, vote for the person you consider to be the best for the position, out of the choices available to you--with special regard to what is good for the USA. Do that, and let everything else take care of itself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree that McCain is not a Republican, or even not a conservative.  He is a guy that is solid conservative on some issues, weakly conservative on some issues, and completely off the reservation on some others. This puts him well to the right of Scoop Jackson (or Joe Lieberman or Zell Miller).  But even assuming for the sake of argument that Jim R. is correct, a Scoop clone is a vast improvement over Clinton or Obama.</p>
<p>People should forget &#8220;strategic&#8221; voting and follow one simple rule:  In every election, vote for the person you consider to be the best for the position, out of the choices available to you&#8211;with special regard to what is good for the USA. Do that, and let everything else take care of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So McCain is no Republican, will not govern or appoint as a Republican, abhors all Republican values&quot;



Jeez Louise, what a load of hooey!
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<p>Jeez Louise, what a load of hooey!</p>
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