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1. David Thomson:

Many people are getting weired-out by the Obama craziness. Even left-wing radio talk show host Taylor Marsh is asking some serious questions:

“Between Tony Rezko, Obama’s financial godfather, who is set to go on trial soon (so who knows what will hit), and William Ayers, the American people are going to be asked to make an assessment about Barack Obama’s judgment to be president and commander in chief. If past is prologue, the Republicans are set to make Ayers Barack Obama’s Wille Horton. But evidently, that’s a gamble many Democrats are willing to take.”

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27075

The odds are strongly in favor of John McCain becoming our next commander-in-chief. This election is rapidly becoming his to lose. The Democrats are stuck with Obama. It’s too late to turn back.

Feb 23, 2008 - 12:20 pm 2. Roger:

“The odds are strongly in favor of John McCain becoming our next commander-in-chief. This election is rapidly becoming his to lose.”

Whodathunkit?

Feb 23, 2008 - 12:40 pm 3. DeliLama:

“‘Yes, we can – what?’ Nobody knows.”

Yes we can haz cheezburger. That’s what it means.

Feb 23, 2008 - 12:47 pm 4. Paul:

‘”The odds are strongly in favor of John McCain becoming our next commander-in-chief. This election is rapidly becoming his to lose.”

Whodathunkit?’

What a crazy chain of events! Not long ago Rudy vs. Hillary seemed inevitable. More and more it looks like McCain will pull votes from Dems and independents in large numbers. Let’s hope so.

Feb 23, 2008 - 12:53 pm 5. S Turney:

Devoid of content describes Deval Patrick’s campaign too. His slogan was “Together we can.” I think people in Mass are disappointed by his performance as governor so far.

Feb 23, 2008 - 1:09 pm 6. EDH:

Anybody else beside me here thinks Hillary is now content with loosing the nomination, and will do whatever she can behind the scenes to help McCain defeat Obama if he gets the nomination?

Why? McCain is a likely one-termer four years from now. He’ll have to do all the post-Bush heavy lifting with respect to Iraq, the larger war and the economy.

If Obama wins in ‘08, Hillary may be locked out for eight years. If Obama looses in ‘08, Obama will have been defeated once, perhaps fulfilling her prediction that Obama is a lightweight.

And the Democrats will tap their heads in 2012 and say “we could’a had a Hillary”.

Feb 23, 2008 - 1:19 pm 7. madawaskan:

Guess what state democratic primary these results are for-and in favor of what candiate?

Latino 18-29

65%

35%

Latino 30-44

60%

40%

Latino 45-59

71%

28%

Latino 60 and Older

78%

20%

All Other Races

62%

32%

OK well it’s California.

Now who won that youth vote?

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Hillary.

Feb 23, 2008 - 1:20 pm 8. The Fop:

The vast majority of Americans have a positive view of Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement of the early 1960s. At the same time, the vast majority of Americans have a negative view of the defiant rejectionism of the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, Angela Davis, Stokely Carmichael, etc.

When OJ Simpson was aquitted, and millions of Black people were celebrating because they were happy to see a Black man beat the system, it showed that this defiant rejectionism, and the whole notion of “stickin’ it to the man”, is still very prevalent within the Black community.

Because of this, Americans are much more suspicious of Black liberal politicians than they are of White liberal politicians. This is why I think that the only way a Black person will ever become President is if they’re either a Republican or a very centrist Democrat. Someone who has been a straight arrow throughout their whole life. Someone who served in the military. Someone who wears their patriotism on their sleeve. Someone who waits until they’ve aquired a significant amount of political experience before running for the highest office in the land. Barack Obama is none of these things.

I think his involvement in a Black separatist church will be his ultimate undoing. If he’s such a uniter who transcends race, what on earth is he doing in a Black separatist church? It makes him look like a hypocrite. McCain will not be mentioning Obama’s church in any speeches or campaign ads. But if Obama wins the nomination, you can bet that the website for Obama’s church will recieve tens of millions of hits from ordinary Americans who hear about it through word of mouth. They won’t like what they see.

And as far as the Jewish vote goes, we’ll hear (from Jewish liberals) that when it comes to Israel, Clinton, Obama, and McCain are all on the same page. To which many Jewish voters will say “in that case, I’ll vote for somebody else besides the guy who belongs to the church with the anti-Israel pastor who sings the praises of Louis Farrakhan”. Look for McCain to get between 50% to 65% of the Jewish vote (and this is only because McCain is a Republican that liberal Jews could tolerate).

Feb 23, 2008 - 2:04 pm 9. Fat Man:

Jonah Goldbergís Liberal Fascism is a must read for this election season. He explains the connections between fascism, progressivism, and liberalism and the roles of Wilson, FDR, JFK and LBJ in making them the center of American politics. He discusses Hillary as the prime example of Liberal Fascism in current politics. The book was written before Obamaís ascent, but it is clear that he is the very model of a liberal fascist politician.

Read it before it is too late.

Feb 23, 2008 - 2:35 pm 10. Wellspring:

Other than saluting the unnecessary but welcome lolcats reference, I’m unmoved.

First, people have been saying that this election is in endgame for the past five or six months. It isn’t. We on the republican side have an uphill fight but could still win it. Six months, as they say, is an eternity in politics. How about the better part of a YEAR?

So a lot can happen between now and then.

As for the “Obamessiah” phenomenon (as Mark Steyn puts it), I’m not that worried. First, the democrats were stupidly giddy with Clinton/Gore. Anyone remember The American President? There was precious little substance or experience at the top of that ticket, either. Not a great president, sat idly by while some serious problems festered, but the world didn’t end, either.

Obama might be a pretty standard slightly-to-the-right-of-Dennis-Kucinich liberal, but he’s the first telegenic, openly liberal candidate we’ve seen in forever. Who has the Democratic Party (or at least, their anointed superdelegates) tried to foist on us in the past?

Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, [Bill Clinton], Al Gore, and John F. Kerry

After that menagerie, I can see why the Democrats are swooning. Give them a break, they’ve had a rough half-century.

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:12 pm 11. TerryeL:

I am not ashamed to say it, Obama gives me the willies.

The other night at the Democratic debate he made some idiotic comment about American troops having to steal Taliban weapons because they don’t have enough ammo or some such stupidity. Needless to say some liberals in the media tried to cover the whole thing with a veneer of the not totally ridiculous by talking about a shortage of armored Humvees in 2003 or whatever.

But the statement itself, about how Bush has not given our soldiers what they need and the poor babies have to steal stuff of the enemy was so ridiculous that all of America should have said:

What the hell?

But no, there were some rightie bloggers who mentioned how absurd it all was other than that the media and much of the country seemed content to bask in the bliss of his Obamaness.

Weird. Did anyone read the book or the see the movie “Perfume”? Yeah, like that. Weird.

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:14 pm 12. PersonFromPorlock:

I’ve always had a feeling that if RFK had become president he’d have turned out to be the Democratic Nixon. He had an, um, brusque way of dealing with his targets as Attorney General.

(À propos of nothing current, but if you invoke RFK you have to expect a few off-topic comments from us paleoflatae.)

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:23 pm 13. Joan of Argghh!:

And besides all this, he’s a Chicago politician. It’s an old family tradition of mine to never vote for anyone associated with Chicago.

We have our reasons…
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Feb 23, 2008 - 3:38 pm 14. Patrick S Lasswell:

The thing about electing the Christ is that you invite the apocalypse. I really think that the secular puritans support dreams like Obama for the same reason that their religious ancestors sought the end time. If you live in the final times, you must be special.

Can we bring about the rapture/universal health care: Yes, we can!

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:43 pm 15. peter blogdanovich:

In politics it’s a bad idea to win big with any one demographic. The secret is to just barely win over as many categories as you can. This is due to the “Law of Conservation of Voters”. If a candidate overwhelmingly carries one demographic, the remaining voters correctly intuit that they are outsiders in comparison to the insiders who are gaga over the guy.
With 90% of the black vote in some primaries, B.O. is breaking this rule, while McCain is well positioned to triangulate his way to slim victories
in many remaining categories.

Feb 23, 2008 - 3:51 pm 16. postroad:

Odd.It doesn’t scare me.I amas scared when I hear folks making a god of Ronnie Reagan.

Yes we can? We can change things.We can win etc
Want to know where Obama stands?do a simple google search for Obama’s positions etc and you will see what he says about bankruptcy, health care, education and on and on…
want to know McCain’s positions? First ask, which day or week.

Feb 23, 2008 - 4:06 pm 17. photoncourier.blogspot.com:

Much public communication in American life today seems to consist in the recitation of words which sound good but don’t really refer to anything specific. This is true of much business advertising and academic discourse as well as political speechmaking. Indeed, there is a lot of *internal* communication in corporations–including discussions of issues where there is a lot of money at stake–which consists mainly of the recitation of trendy buzzwords.

Feb 23, 2008 - 4:18 pm 18. Roger:

“Odd.It doesn’t scare me.I amas scared when I hear folks making a god of Ronnie Reagan.”

postroad, I absolutely agree. Making a god of any politician is absurd. And dangerous. This is particularly true of living ones, who have the opportunity to exploit their deification.

Feb 23, 2008 - 4:49 pm 19. Paul:

“Odd.It doesn’t scare me.I amas scared when I hear folks making a god of Ronnie Reagan.”

People love Reagan because he put America on track again after the disastrous Carter and his malaise and set about to engineer the collapse of the Soviet Union. Holding someone in high regard and as a standard to aspire to does not constitute worship as a god. What about Lincoln or Washington? (There will always be people who go overboard in their adulation of heroes or individuals of stature. That’s just human nature). These are men who truly did great things for the nation.

The Obama phenomenon on the other hand is something altogether different. Here we have a man of no real accomplishment causing fainting spells amongst his followers simply with lofty, empty rhetoric. This is much more of a religious-cult reaction and can in no way be compared to the earned love and respect for a man who saves a nation or wins a war. To conflate the two just demonstrates the height of partisan stupidity.

Feb 23, 2008 - 6:27 pm 20. jvc:

The followers of the Obama phenomenon and their behavior might be explained by this quote from Alexander Hamilton: “Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.”

Feb 23, 2008 - 6:58 pm 21. Macadoo:

I notice something odd. The people I know who are big Obama supporters can’t handle any criticsm. If you don’t buy in to the Obama trip then you are an idiot, or worse, a conservative. There’s no argument or discussion. You have to sign on to the ‘hope’ platform and not ask too many questions. This is exactly like the tack taken by the gloabal warming crowd. You either believe and support the cause/leader/political agenda or you are opponent and an unbeliever. These are truly cult-like phenomena. Once in power, what will happen to those who don’t swoon and believe?

Feb 23, 2008 - 7:02 pm 22. cmarie:

It’s not just name calling, some Obamatons also physically threaten anyone not on their side.

Look at what happened with Tavis Smiley who said heÔøΩs being ÔøΩhammered,ÔøΩ ÔøΩbarbecued,ÔøΩ and is ÔøΩcatching hellÔøΩ from black Americans for suggesting that Sen. Barack Obama made a major mistake by declining to speak at the State of the Black Union event. ÔøΩThereÔøΩs all this talk of hater, sellout and traitor,ÔøΩ Smiley even mentioned getting death threats.

As for Obama being fresh, original and visionary – have you guys seen this clip showing Obama parroting lines from Spike Lee’s Malcom X movie?

Feb 23, 2008 - 7:31 pm 23. michael:

A recent poll has Obama beating McCain. Obama doesn’t threaten you except with sweetness rhetorically. This will let your ‘white guilt’ take over. The Dallas Morning news has the publisher of the prominent ’soccer mom and dad’ D magazine pen her re-education confession on the op-ed page today. It’s harder to get rolled over in the internet age, unless you want to be. ‘Subterranean Obama Blues’ at Just One Minute is a great antididote.

Feb 23, 2008 - 8:00 pm 24. Rich Casebolt:

Yes we can.

But why would you want to?

Because we can.

Irregardless of sound principle and the lessons of history?

Yes we can.

postroad, we pretty much already know what we will get with the Big 0 in charge … for many of us lived through the last time this nation tried what he is pushing.

We rang up $3 trillion in debt funding it here at home, with very little good to show for it … and we are still dealing with the bloody messes his approach caused when others applied it outside our borders.

Change?

More like change back.

With Obama we will party like its Nineteen Seventy-Nine.

We won’t be fooled again …

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:54 am 25. K T Cat:

I’m a McCain supporter and would never vote for Obama, but I think the worry about his cult of personality is overblown. Yes, that’s a big part of what we’re dealing with, but an Obama presidency would probably be roughly equivalent to a repeat of Jimmy Carter. As the economy got beat up by his statist policies and we suffered defeats around the globe, Obama’s cult of personality would evaporate very, very quickly.

“Si se puede” would be replaced with “Ay carumba!”

Feb 24, 2008 - 6:51 am 26. doc99:

“Christ said “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” for a very good reason. I’m not a Christian but I thank him for that. Those words made democracy possible.”

Sorry, Roger, but the Athenians might argue that point.

Feb 24, 2008 - 6:57 am 27. PD Quig:

What is forgotten here is that RFK was a power-crazed, murderous SOB who was hip deep in CIA plots to murder foreign figures. His extra-legal activities that have come to light (read “Legacy of Ashes”) place him with J. Edgar Hoover as among most abhorrent government officials of the 20th century. If ever a politician deserved his fate, a very good case could be made that Sirhan Sirhan spared this country from a true, secretive liberal fascist.

Feb 24, 2008 - 7:23 am 28. maxomai:

Even left-wing radio talk show host Taylor Marsh is asking some serious questions:

Taylor Marsh’s left-wing credentials have been completely destroyed by her race baiting tactics against Obama, and her talking points have been completely debunked over and over again. She’s not left-wing; she’s a Clinton partisan. There’s a difference.

And if we’re going to discuss plagiarism, we may as well point out that Clinton plagiarized Edwards in last week’s debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAYItnI-lPo

Feb 24, 2008 - 7:48 am 29. Old Dad:

Obama is a master manipulator. I don’t say that disparagingly. His training as an organizer has equipped him to move crowds. It’s a great political asset.

He’s also tactically smart. His campaign has run rings around Hillary’s. He also knows that this level of Obamamania is simply not sustainable past the primaries. He’ll tone down the bull crap for the general. He’ll also tack right.

McCain’s national security creds present a huge problem for him–one he may not be able to get past. He’ll have to present himself as substantive and serious. Unlike Hillary, McCain will bust him in the chops. We’ll see if he has a glass jaw.

Feb 24, 2008 - 9:17 am 30. ignatov:

“We rang up $3 trillion in debt funding it here at home, with very little good to show for it … and we are still dealing with the bloody messes his approach caused when others applied it outside our borders.

With Obama we will party like its Nineteen Seventy-Nine.”

Hmm. A President who’s legacy is a bungled economy and bloody foreign policies. Are you sure you need to go all the way back to Carter for that?

Feb 24, 2008 - 9:27 am 31. boqueronman:

“A President who’s legacy is a bungled economy and bloody foreign policies. Are you sure you need to go all the way back to Carter for that?” No, we don’t. We only have to go back to the 1990s – Rwandan genocide, Somalia disaster, cascading terrorist attacks on the U.S. and it’s foreign interests (with no response), and, of course, the “resolution” of the Balkan problem – how’s that Clinton legacy going now? And let’s not forget the Clinton recession in 2000, followed by the impact of 9/11, which was then followed by tax cuts and the longest period of consecutive job growth in decades. In fact, we’re so comfortable now the favorite to win the Presidency is an empty suit celebrity. Sometimes being President requires making tough decisions, the Democrats’ twin Cs were notorious for running the other way to avoid them, leaving the steaming piles for others to clean up.

Feb 24, 2008 - 10:24 am 32. TerryeL:

I know who McCain is, he does not scare me. Obama, on the other hand, just appeared out of freaking nowhere at the Democratic National Convention and gave a speech. People drooled, their eyes glazed over and they were in love.

He has not ever supported any kind of legislation that would have made any of his fancy pants dreams a reality. He has not been bipartisan, nor has he ever bucked the party structure to support any legislation they might not have been comfortable with…so how will he unify us? With speeches?

My biggest problem is not with Obama, I just think he is a slick politician with a gift for manipulating, my biggest problem is with his many of his supporters…or should I say followers? They act as if they are cult members. If they don’t like being treated like cult members then don’t talk about your guy as if he is a God.

Feb 24, 2008 - 12:42 pm 33. brad:

Everyone here, thank you. This comment thread is the best thing I’ve seen all week. Y’all are TERRIFIED of Obama, and I love it. Every irrational, borderline insane comment here is like sweet, sweet music to me. Please keep it up.

Feb 24, 2008 - 3:13 pm 34. Rhod:

Great comment, brad. Obama guy brad unites us with accusations of insanity.

If the comments up to yours were borderline, yours slipped over the edge into the full Monty.

Feb 24, 2008 - 3:32 pm 35. Pat Curley:

Yes, Taylor Marsh is carrying Hillary’s water in the lefty blogosphere. Her blogging is interesting to see what oppo research has come up with on Obama, but I’d trust her about as far as I trust Hillary.

Feb 24, 2008 - 3:35 pm 36. TerryeL:

brad:

So, anyone who does not love Obama is insane? Ahh yes, that is the way it starts.

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:11 pm 37. TerryeL:

The thing is Obama is an empty suit brad. He is all over the place in regards to Iraq, his economic plan is pure demagoguery.

For instance, Obama states he will surrender Iraq, pull out. Then he says well maybe not, then he says he will.

Retreat is not a small thing. In fact an orderly retreat can be a very costly and complicated maneuver. Not to mention the humanitarian issues involved. Has Obama ever addressed these issues in a concise manner? As he ever even had to face a hostile questioner on these issues?

No that I know of. And if questioned about it, his followers tend to get pissy and belligerent.

On trade, he is even more strange. Does he want to render null and void all of our deals for the last decade? What might the impact be on our trade relations with other countries? Could there be trade wars? Or will all Americans just start making oodles and gobs of money?

Time and again I have heard people say things all the jobs are going to Mexico, well if that is so, why are so many Mexicans coming here?

My problem with Obama is that he is not straight with people. His campaign is based on emotion and media hype and fantasy and the idea that most Americans are suffering and only Obama can save us.

I am sorry, but too many people today think that suffering means you can not afford cable. They have no idea what it really means to do without.

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:19 pm 38. BobSykes:

I am 64 years old. I voted for Johnson (to keep us out of war), for Carter (once, too many times ) and for Clinton (once, too many times). Obama is insane. He will probably win (McCain is senile), and within 2 years we will have a military coup d’etat. Thank God! I will live out the remainder of my life in a military dictatorship. Thank God!

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:31 pm 39. Captain Hate:

I plan on voting for Barry in the Ohio primary, primarily to help rid the nation of the stench of the Clinton crime syndicate. But frankly the Obama television ads have been an embarrassment. One, that has him preaching to the followers, has him claiming to be for tax breaks not for companies that invest in foreign countries but for companies that invest in the United States. I keep waiting for a member of the applauding mass to ask him what he plans to do for companies that do both.

brad, would you ask Barry that for me? Or maybe you know the answer and can make his commercial sound at least a little bit intelligent. Thanks in advance.

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:36 pm 40. TerryeL:

What about the foreign companies that invest in the United States? Here in Indiana we have a Toyota plant that employs a lot of Hoosiers. They like their jobs. Should American auto makers get better treatment than they do? Or should they start making a product that more Americans want to buy?

As for countries that invest in other countries, what is that? What about American oil companies can that more easily invest in other countries than drill for oil in parts of the United States?

And what about the drug companies? I hear people complain that there are not more cheap drugs coming in from Canada..well isn’t that hypocritical? Isn’t the whole point to Obama’s anti free trade agenda to create more industries like the pharma industry..protected from imports, heavily regulated by the government, well paid American workers with no foreigners getting preferential treatment?

How is Obama’s plan not like that?

Feb 24, 2008 - 4:48 pm 41. Rhod:

Haven’t been able to track the source of this report from Power Line, but here goes:

“Last night he(Obama)said he would end our immigration problem in part by improving the economy of Mexico to the point that illegal immigrants would have no need or desire to enter the paradise that Obama will create here…

Most magically of all, Obama will fix Mexico’s economy even while refusing to trade with Mexico unless it complies with US labor and environmental standards.”

That’s one hell of a promise, and one might say, a little….deluded, if not insane.

Feb 24, 2008 - 5:33 pm 42. Barrett:

Terrye, I share your thoughts completely.

It only takes a few moments of reflection to see that Obama has no grasp of the issues underlying his statements.

He will not stand up to scrutiny, if there is any. If we can get the debate to high school level, his own words will be his demise.

The Obama folks I know hate Bush and love Obama. There is no discussion about why they hate Bush anymore. It is utter opposition to everything Bush. There is no thought, only emotion. The love for Obama is the same. He is Democrat and the anti-Bush, so his is loved. There is complete suspension of rationality. I have never seen so many people look so stupid in my life.

The demise of the Clinton machine is appealing to me as Captain Hate stated. My hope is that McCain doesn’t blow himself up in the process. He has his share of skeletons.

Feb 24, 2008 - 8:31 pm 43. TerryeL:

I am not crazy about the Clinton machine, but Hillary is better prepared to deal with the world than magic man is. And their hatred is not just for Bush, after all Bush was not the man who first brought us NAFTA, it is for all things establishment. They are acting like a bunch of kids who disaprove of how Dad makes his money but still stand there with their hand out for gas money.

So, they hate Bush, newsflash people, Bush is not running.

And btw, isn’t Canada part of North America? Aren’t they our number one trading partner or some such silly detail as that? Kind of reminds me of that far right thing about the North American Union. Extremes meet.

Yep, the Obama people want to love all the world, they just don’t want to do business with them.

I see on Drudge that Farrakhan is saying Obama is the hope of the entire world.

The entire world mind you.

Feb 25, 2008 - 3:57 am

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