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		<title>By: srlucado</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/03/12/mamet-goes-public/#comment-93236</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the essay, but couldn&#039;t help but notice that the comments contained the typical liberal reaction:  Don&#039;t refute the message, attack the messenger.

To me, that is one of the worst aspects of liberalism.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the essay, but couldn&#8217;t help but notice that the comments contained the typical liberal reaction:  Don&#8217;t refute the message, attack the messenger.</p>
<p>To me, that is one of the worst aspects of liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Totten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Totten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About Glengarry Glenn Ross: My father works in real estate and says the film version of the play is the most depressing movie he has ever seen because it&#039;s a dead-on accurate portrayal of (some, not all) real estate firms. And my father is a Republican. I doubt it ever occured to him that the play is liberal or leftist.

Just a data point. I don&#039;t know, I&#039;ve never worked in real estate and never wanted to.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Glengarry Glenn Ross: My father works in real estate and says the film version of the play is the most depressing movie he has ever seen because it&#8217;s a dead-on accurate portrayal of (some, not all) real estate firms. And my father is a Republican. I doubt it ever occured to him that the play is liberal or leftist.</p>
<p>Just a data point. I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ve never worked in real estate and never wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger - i thought of you as I read mamet&#039;s essay, which fans the flames of my new secret game (mirrored, i imagine, after the habits of homosexuals in times past): in it, every time i find myself enjoying a movie, or teleplay or book, i convince myself that its ostensibly left-liberal director and/or writer is really a closeted EX-democrat.
the great part is - it might even be true.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger &#8211; i thought of you as I read mamet&#8217;s essay, which fans the flames of my new secret game (mirrored, i imagine, after the habits of homosexuals in times past): in it, every time i find myself enjoying a movie, or teleplay or book, i convince myself that its ostensibly left-liberal director and/or writer is really a closeted EX-democrat.<br />
the great part is &#8211; it might even be true.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger - i thought of you as I read mamet&#039;s essay, which fans the flames of my new secret game (mirrored, i imagine, after the habits of homosexuals in times past): in it, every time i find myself enjoying a movie, or teleplay or book, i convince myself that its ostensibly left-liberal director and/or writer is really a closeted EX-democrat.
the great part is - it might even be true.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger &#8211; i thought of you as I read mamet&#8217;s essay, which fans the flames of my new secret game (mirrored, i imagine, after the habits of homosexuals in times past): in it, every time i find myself enjoying a movie, or teleplay or book, i convince myself that its ostensibly left-liberal director and/or writer is really a closeted EX-democrat.<br />
the great part is &#8211; it might even be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacon-I Will Miss Thee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacon-I Will Miss Thee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mamet seemed to be saying that, more than anything, he was willing to see the warts of liberalism alongside those of conservatism which I suppose is probably the sensible route to take.

Now if only those who see Obama as SuperJesusMan would open their eyes too and quit scaring the crap out of me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mamet seemed to be saying that, more than anything, he was willing to see the warts of liberalism alongside those of conservatism which I suppose is probably the sensible route to take.</p>
<p>Now if only those who see Obama as SuperJesusMan would open their eyes too and quit scaring the crap out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightnin' Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightnin' Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain Hate beat me to it on the Vichy Voice comments - the fever swamps really get percolating when there&#039;s an apostate to burn at the stake. Some of the less vile posts are reminiscent of the way 60&#039;s &quot;protest&quot; radicals looked at Bob Dylan when he wisely chose to be his own man and follow his muse (as he always had, and continues to do today) -- many still can&#039;t (or won&#039;t) come to grips with it, like Joan Baez in Scorcese&#039;s &quot;No Direction Home&quot; documentary.

I&#039;m not thrilled with the &quot;Bush stole the election&quot; canard - debunked in 0.2 two seconds by anyone with half an open mind and internet access - but one one thing at a time, I guess. Baby steps.

&quot;You know why, mister? Because you drove a HYUNDAI to get here tonight; I drive an $80,000 BMW, THAT&#039;S my name!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Hate beat me to it on the Vichy Voice comments &#8211; the fever swamps really get percolating when there&#8217;s an apostate to burn at the stake. Some of the less vile posts are reminiscent of the way 60&#8217;s &#8220;protest&#8221; radicals looked at Bob Dylan when he wisely chose to be his own man and follow his muse (as he always had, and continues to do today) &#8212; many still can&#8217;t (or won&#8217;t) come to grips with it, like Joan Baez in Scorcese&#8217;s &#8220;No Direction Home&#8221; documentary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not thrilled with the &#8220;Bush stole the election&#8221; canard &#8211; debunked in 0.2 two seconds by anyone with half an open mind and internet access &#8211; but one one thing at a time, I guess. Baby steps.</p>
<p>&#8220;You know why, mister? Because you drove a HYUNDAI to get here tonight; I drive an $80,000 BMW, THAT&#8217;S my name!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Hate</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, not only was the essay excellent but I dared read the comments and it took until the fifth one before I got to a Jew-hating moron who didn&#039;t even know who Mamet was!!  And before that comments of praise for Thomas Sowell &lt;b&gt; in the Village Voice&lt;/b&gt;!!!  I didn&#039;t go any further; why tempt the fates when I&#039;m obviously in Bizarro-world.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, not only was the essay excellent but I dared read the comments and it took until the fifth one before I got to a Jew-hating moron who didn&#8217;t even know who Mamet was!!  And before that comments of praise for Thomas Sowell <b> in the Village Voice</b>!!!  I didn&#8217;t go any further; why tempt the fates when I&#8217;m obviously in Bizarro-world.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved &quot;Glengarry Glenross&quot; but in the political frame it&#039;s such a massive blunt-force indictment of capitalism that the &quot;tragedy of human nature&quot; theme is IMHO less conservative/cautionary and more liberal/appeal to emotion--the bad people exploit and the sad people get exploited.

Jack Lemmon&#039;s character&#039;s willingness to sacrifice himself for his family is about the only true conservative note I can recall, and even this is pointedly portrayed not as heroic but rather as abjectly humiliating. His good behavior brings him no reward of any sort, spirit or material. His beneficiaries are shown as ungrateful and likely unworthy of the poor old guy&#039;s miserable and draining efforts. So everything about him is just utterly futile.

Yes, it&#039;s a great film, but if you&#039;re prone to depression, run run run in the other direction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved &#8220;Glengarry Glenross&#8221; but in the political frame it&#8217;s such a massive blunt-force indictment of capitalism that the &#8220;tragedy of human nature&#8221; theme is IMHO less conservative/cautionary and more liberal/appeal to emotion&#8211;the bad people exploit and the sad people get exploited.</p>
<p>Jack Lemmon&#8217;s character&#8217;s willingness to sacrifice himself for his family is about the only true conservative note I can recall, and even this is pointedly portrayed not as heroic but rather as abjectly humiliating. His good behavior brings him no reward of any sort, spirit or material. His beneficiaries are shown as ungrateful and likely unworthy of the poor old guy&#8217;s miserable and draining efforts. So everything about him is just utterly futile.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a great film, but if you&#8217;re prone to depression, run run run in the other direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a club in the Fenway

A club in the Fenway
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a club in the Fenway</p>
<p>A club in the Fenway</p>
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		<title>By: Doug S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What struck me as particularly interesting about that essay is that what Mamet calls the &quot;tragic&quot; (i.e., conservative) understanding of human nature has always been an important part of his work. So it just dawned on him now that people want to get ahead and can act badly under pressure, how many years after he wrote Glengarry Glenross? Hello? I think he understood this at some level all along, but when he left his playwright&#039;s desk he closed off that part of his brain until his recent epiphany.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What struck me as particularly interesting about that essay is that what Mamet calls the &#8220;tragic&#8221; (i.e., conservative) understanding of human nature has always been an important part of his work. So it just dawned on him now that people want to get ahead and can act badly under pressure, how many years after he wrote Glengarry Glenross? Hello? I think he understood this at some level all along, but when he left his playwright&#8217;s desk he closed off that part of his brain until his recent epiphany.</p>
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