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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/03/18/my-obama-poesie/#comment-93492</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s speech boils down to the claim that Wright&#039;s statements should not be held against him because there are legitimate causes of anger among blacks -- just as there are legitimate causes of anger among whites -- and the real problem is that all this anger distracts us from the real cause of all our problems:

&quot;..a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many.&quot;

In other words, it&#039;s American businesses and the Bush administration&#039;s tax cuts that are to blame.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s speech boils down to the claim that Wright&#8217;s statements should not be held against him because there are legitimate causes of anger among blacks &#8212; just as there are legitimate causes of anger among whites &#8212; and the real problem is that all this anger distracts us from the real cause of all our problems:</p>
<p>&#8220;..a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s American businesses and the Bush administration&#8217;s tax cuts that are to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: iceberg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obaby sure lost me with his moral equivalency  -- his grandmother&#039;s use of stereotypes etc and wright who not only preaches hate but actually sells the hate videos aren&#039;t even on the same planet........
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obaby sure lost me with his moral equivalency  &#8212; his grandmother&#8217;s use of stereotypes etc and wright who not only preaches hate but actually sells the hate videos aren&#8217;t even on the same planet&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: iceberg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obaby sure lost me with his moral equivalency  -- his grandmother&#039;s use of stereotypes etc and wright who not only preaches hate but actually sells the hate videos aren&#039;t even on the same planet........
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obaby sure lost me with his moral equivalency  &#8212; his grandmother&#8217;s use of stereotypes etc and wright who not only preaches hate but actually sells the hate videos aren&#8217;t even on the same planet&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Obama learned the lesson of the three wise monkeys:

See no evil,

Hear no evil,

Speak no evil,

However, there is a fourth monkey (Shizaru),

Do no evil.

By covering his eyes, ears and mouth, Obama allows evil to sit at his table.  In doing so, Obama allows evil to exist.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Obama learned the lesson of the three wise monkeys:</p>
<p>See no evil,</p>
<p>Hear no evil,</p>
<p>Speak no evil,</p>
<p>However, there is a fourth monkey (Shizaru),</p>
<p>Do no evil.</p>
<p>By covering his eyes, ears and mouth, Obama allows evil to sit at his table.  In doing so, Obama allows evil to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on now .. Barack Obama has expanded our universe.

By his example, there is now the &quot;&lt;i&gt;Obama-Wright escape&lt;/i&gt;&quot; clause for those embarrassing situations where you can now say .. &quot;&lt;b&gt;I can no more likely renounce him/her than Obama could renounce Rev. Wright.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

Wow. Doesn&#039;t that make the world a better place ?

Or .. &lt;b&gt;I would like to invoke my &quot;&lt;i&gt;Obama-Wright escape&lt;/i&gt;&quot; clause rights.&lt;/b&gt;

Ranks right up there with the 5th amendment and has the Constitutional feel.

Example:
&lt;em&gt;Mary Jo Kopechne could no more likely renounce Ted Kennedy than Obama could renounce Rev. Wright.&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah. That feels right, doesn&#039;t it ?

Perhaps we should all automatically consider this response the next time we consider demanding a repudiation of someone.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on now .. Barack Obama has expanded our universe.</p>
<p>By his example, there is now the &#8220;<i>Obama-Wright escape</i>&#8221; clause for those embarrassing situations where you can now say .. &#8220;<b>I can no more likely renounce him/her than Obama could renounce Rev. Wright.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Doesn&#8217;t that make the world a better place ?</p>
<p>Or .. <b>I would like to invoke my &#8220;<i>Obama-Wright escape</i>&#8221; clause rights.</b></p>
<p>Ranks right up there with the 5th amendment and has the Constitutional feel.</p>
<p>Example:<br />
<em>Mary Jo Kopechne could no more likely renounce Ted Kennedy than Obama could renounce Rev. Wright.</em></p>
<p>Yeah. That feels right, doesn&#8217;t it ?</p>
<p>Perhaps we should all automatically consider this response the next time we consider demanding a repudiation of someone.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-democrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some revealing backstory re the grandma parable  here: http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-throws-his-own-living-grannie.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some revealing backstory re the grandma parable  here: <a href="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-throws-his-own-living-grannie.html" rel="nofollow">http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-throws-his-own-living-grannie.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I see of this dust-up the more I believe that Obama is attempting to perpetrate a massive fraud on the American people. I just recently saw a rebroadcast of an interview Wright gave to Hannity &amp; Colmes sometime last year, in which Wright attributed his &quot;liberation theology&quot; to the writings of one James Cone. Here is an example of Cone&#039;s Writings, from the 03/18 edition of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120585801828545495.html?mod=Best+of+the+Web+Today&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;BWTW&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:
&quot;Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.&quot;

I don&#039;t know about you, but I would be extremely uncomfortable entrusting this country to a person who subscribes to this type of theology, and would even (God help me) prefer Hillary if I were forced to make a choice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I see of this dust-up the more I believe that Obama is attempting to perpetrate a massive fraud on the American people. I just recently saw a rebroadcast of an interview Wright gave to Hannity &amp; Colmes sometime last year, in which Wright attributed his &#8220;liberation theology&#8221; to the writings of one James Cone. Here is an example of Cone&#8217;s Writings, from the 03/18 edition of  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120585801828545495.html?mod=Best+of+the+Web+Today" rel="nofollow"><b>BWTW</b></a>:<br />
&#8220;Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I would be extremely uncomfortable entrusting this country to a person who subscribes to this type of theology, and would even (God help me) prefer Hillary if I were forced to make a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if is true but the story goes that the OJ dream team was urged not to go after Christopher Darden too hard, because after the trial Darden would still be a member of the black community.

It seems to me that Obama is at pains to completely disassociate himself from the revered lest he be accused in the black community of the worst of the worst ñ selling out.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if is true but the story goes that the OJ dream team was urged not to go after Christopher Darden too hard, because after the trial Darden would still be a member of the black community.</p>
<p>It seems to me that Obama is at pains to completely disassociate himself from the revered lest he be accused in the black community of the worst of the worst ñ selling out.</p>
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		<title>By: miguelj</title>
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		<dc:creator>miguelj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I liked your poem; reminded me a bit of Ginsberg.

Hereís an angle to the Rev. Wright situation you may not have considered: certain cultures have a tradition of ritual boasting or ritual exaggerating, especially when declaiming speeches. I donít mean this as condescending towards Africans; the Celts did it too. And when the Scotch-Irish came to America, they brought ritual boasting with them. The ìbragsî of Mike Fink and Davy Crockett have made it into the folklore anthologies:
ìI&#039;m a Salt River roarer and I eat live coals .
I&#039;m a half-alligator and I ride tornadoesî etc. etc.
And of course, Texans are legendary for boastful exaggeration.

(Yíknow, back in í62 or í63 at Dartmouth, I recall hearing a speech by Paul Zuber, a lesser-known civil rights figure, and he was full of fury, shouting to the white liberal college kids about how the combined armies and navies of Ghana and Kenya would soon storm Americaís shores to free its oppressed Negro people. I just dismissed him then as nuts; nobody had explained to me about ritual boasting).

Also: the other side of exaggerating your own prowess is to exaggerate your adversaryís wickednessói.e, he is not simply bad, but monstrous, and only the oratorís superhuman strengths are sufficient to overcome the monstrous enemy.

Now look again at some of Rev. Wrightís worst statements: does he really believe, for example, that the US government invented AIDS to destroy black people? If you or I really believed such a thing, I think weíd leave the country at once and do everything in our power to bring such a government down (much the way Willy Brandt left Nazi Germany and took up arms against it.) But the reverendís parishioners hear this horrific accusation and respond ìYes! Thatís right! Preach the truth!î etc., and then drive to their jobs the next day and stop off at Starbuckís on their way and, at the end of the year, pay their taxes. The reverend is implicitly understood to be exaggerating for effect (though he would vigorously deny it).  There is even an African-American slang term for this kind of speech: ìwolf ticketsî

Likewise, he has called on God to curse America, an America in which the Reverend has actually done pretty well for himself. Is he really praying for God to sink the ship on which he and all his flock are traveling? I doubt it.

In his way, Obama is trying to explain this. This is what he means when he says ìthe anger is real.î Implicitly, he is adding: but the accusations against America are false.
Heís asking us to understand it in the ìAfrican-Americanî cultural contextówhich of course he himself was not born into, but acquired in order to establish his political credentials in Chicago.  These are undoubtedly personally painful areas for him to dig into, which was why he didnít face all this till it became a political liability.

A politician of greater candor and courage would have met these issues head-on long ago. Obama may project a well spoken sincerity, but he has neither candor nor courage.
--Mike Reynolds
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I liked your poem; reminded me a bit of Ginsberg.</p>
<p>Hereís an angle to the Rev. Wright situation you may not have considered: certain cultures have a tradition of ritual boasting or ritual exaggerating, especially when declaiming speeches. I donít mean this as condescending towards Africans; the Celts did it too. And when the Scotch-Irish came to America, they brought ritual boasting with them. The ìbragsî of Mike Fink and Davy Crockett have made it into the folklore anthologies:<br />
ìI&#8217;m a Salt River roarer and I eat live coals .<br />
I&#8217;m a half-alligator and I ride tornadoesî etc. etc.<br />
And of course, Texans are legendary for boastful exaggeration.</p>
<p>(Yíknow, back in í62 or í63 at Dartmouth, I recall hearing a speech by Paul Zuber, a lesser-known civil rights figure, and he was full of fury, shouting to the white liberal college kids about how the combined armies and navies of Ghana and Kenya would soon storm Americaís shores to free its oppressed Negro people. I just dismissed him then as nuts; nobody had explained to me about ritual boasting).</p>
<p>Also: the other side of exaggerating your own prowess is to exaggerate your adversaryís wickednessói.e, he is not simply bad, but monstrous, and only the oratorís superhuman strengths are sufficient to overcome the monstrous enemy.</p>
<p>Now look again at some of Rev. Wrightís worst statements: does he really believe, for example, that the US government invented AIDS to destroy black people? If you or I really believed such a thing, I think weíd leave the country at once and do everything in our power to bring such a government down (much the way Willy Brandt left Nazi Germany and took up arms against it.) But the reverendís parishioners hear this horrific accusation and respond ìYes! Thatís right! Preach the truth!î etc., and then drive to their jobs the next day and stop off at Starbuckís on their way and, at the end of the year, pay their taxes. The reverend is implicitly understood to be exaggerating for effect (though he would vigorously deny it).  There is even an African-American slang term for this kind of speech: ìwolf ticketsî</p>
<p>Likewise, he has called on God to curse America, an America in which the Reverend has actually done pretty well for himself. Is he really praying for God to sink the ship on which he and all his flock are traveling? I doubt it.</p>
<p>In his way, Obama is trying to explain this. This is what he means when he says ìthe anger is real.î Implicitly, he is adding: but the accusations against America are false.<br />
Heís asking us to understand it in the ìAfrican-Americanî cultural contextówhich of course he himself was not born into, but acquired in order to establish his political credentials in Chicago.  These are undoubtedly personally painful areas for him to dig into, which was why he didnít face all this till it became a political liability.</p>
<p>A politician of greater candor and courage would have met these issues head-on long ago. Obama may project a well spoken sincerity, but he has neither candor nor courage.<br />
&#8211;Mike Reynolds</p>
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		<title>By: Oligonicella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oligonicella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in the end....
&#160; &#160; &#160; &amp;nbsp We started the AIDs virus.
the love you make...
&#160; &#160; &#160; &amp;nbsp we are doing is the same thing al-Qaida is doing
is equal to...
&#160; &#160; &#160; &amp;nbsp U.S. of KKK A
the love you make.
&#160; &#160; &#160; &amp;nbsp God &lt;b&gt;damn&lt;/b&gt; America!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in the end&#8230;.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &amp;nbsp We started the AIDs virus.<br />
the love you make&#8230;<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &amp;nbsp we are doing is the same thing al-Qaida is doing<br />
is equal to&#8230;<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &amp;nbsp U.S. of KKK A<br />
the love you make.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &amp;nbsp God <b>damn</b> America!</p>
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