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“Israel… is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said.

This is the guy Obama just can’t wait to meet with.

He needs to make those Members Only jackets disappear – Back To The Future, at least to 1983 or so.

Speaking of time travel, what year is it anyway?

“How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas masks here because of a quarrel in a faraway country between people of whom we know nothing.”
–Neville Chamberlain, Sept. 27, 1938

“But the one important thing is that we not get mission creep, and we do not start suggesting that we should have troops in Iraq to blunt Iranian influence (…) I don’t want to just end the war, but I want to end the mindset that got us into war in the first place.”
–Barack Obama, Jan. 31, 2008

New Obama slogan for the general election: “Recreate ‘38!” — We’re well on our way already.

nice one, lightnin’!

This an excellent WSJ article and discusses what Obama cannot comprehend – the difference between a nation-state and a revolutionary cause. That distinction has major implications for how one deals with Iran or for that matter Hamas and the Palestinians or Hezzbullah and Jordan.

Obama has, of course, demonstrated a massive inability to assess the character with whom he keeps company.

The only problem is a President Obama could gets us all killed.

WSJ OPINION

The Problem With Talking to Iran
By AMIR TAHERI
May 28, 2008; Page A17

In a report released this week, the International Atomic Energy Agency expressed “serious concern” that the Islamic Republic of Iran continues to conceal details of its nuclear weapons program, even as it defies U.N. demands to suspend its uranium enrichment program.

Meanwhile, presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama ñ in lieu of a policy for dealing with the growing threat posed by the Islamic Republic ñ repeats what has become a familiar refrain within his party: Let’s talk to Iran.

There is, of course, nothing wrong with wanting to talk to an adversary. But Mr. Obama and his supporters should not pretend this is “change” in any real sense. Every U.S. administration in the past 30 years, from Jimmy Carter’s to George W. Bush’s, has tried to engage in dialogue with Iran’s leaders. They’ve all failed.

Just two years ago, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice proffered an invitation to the Islamic Republic for talks, backed by promises of what one of her advisers described as “juicy carrots” with not a shadow of a stick. At the time, I happened to be in Washington. Early one morning, one of Ms. Rice’s assistants read the text of her statement (which was to be issued a few hours later) to me over the phone, asking my opinion. I said the move won’t work, but insisted that the statement should mention U.S. concern for human- rights violations in Iran.

“We don’t wish to set preconditions,” was the answer. “We could raise all issues once they have agreed to talk.” I suppose Ms. Rice is still waiting for Iran’s mullahs to accept her invitation, even while Mr. Obama castigates her for not wanting to talk.

The Europeans invented the phrase “critical dialogue” to describe their approach to Iran. They negotiated with Tehran for more than two decades, achieving nothing.

The Arabs, especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia, have been negotiating with the mullahs for years ñ the Egyptians over restoring diplomatic ties cut off by Tehran, and the Saudis on measures to stop Shiite-Sunni killings in the Muslim world ñ with nothing to show for it. Since 1993, the Russians have tried to achieve agreement on the status of the Caspian Sea through talks with Tehran, again without results.

The reason is that Iran is gripped by a typical crisis of identity that afflicts most nations that pass through a revolutionary experience. The Islamic Republic does not know how to behave: as a nation-state, or as the embodiment of a revolution with universal messianic pretensions. Is it a country or a cause?

A nation-state wants concrete things such as demarcated borders, markets, access to natural resources, security, influence, and, of course, stability ñ all things that could be negotiated with other nation-states. A revolution, on the other hand, doesn’t want anything in particular because it wants everything.

In 1802, when Bonaparte embarked on his campaign of world conquest, the threat did not come from France as a nation-state but from the French Revolution in its Napoleonic reincarnation. In 1933, it was Germany as a cause, the Nazi cause, that threatened the world. Under communism, the Soviet Union was a cause and thus a threat. Having ceased to be a cause and re-emerged a nation-state, Russia no longer poses an existential threat to others.

The problem that the world, including the U.S., has today is not with Iran as a nation-state but with the Islamic Republic as a revolutionary cause bent on world conquest under the guidance of the “Hidden Imam.” The following statement by the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the “Supreme leader” of the Islamic Republic ñ who Mr. Obama admits has ultimate power in Iran — exposes the futility of the very talks Mr. Obama proposes: “You have nothing to say to us. We object. We do not agree to a relationship with you! We are not prepared to establish relations with powerful world devourers like you! The Iranian nation has no need of the United States, nor is the Iranian nation afraid of the United States. We . . . do not accept your behavior, your oppression and intervention in various parts of the world.”

So, how should one deal with a regime of this nature? The challenge for the U.S. and the world is finding a way to help Iran absorb its revolutionary experience, stop being a cause, and re-emerge as a nation-state.

Whenever Iran has appeared as a nation-state, others have been able to negotiate with it, occasionally with good results. In Iraq, for example, Iran has successfully negotiated a range of issues with both the Iraqi government and the U.S. Agreement has been reached on conditions under which millions of Iranians visit Iraq each year for pilgrimage. An accord has been worked out to dredge the Shatt al-Arab waterway of three decades of war debris, thus enabling both neighbors to reopen their biggest ports. Again acting as a nation-state, Iran has secured permission for its citizens to invest in Iraq.

When it comes to Iran behaving as the embodiment of a revolutionary cause, however, no agreement is possible. There will be no compromise on Iranian smuggling of weapons into Iraq. Nor will the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps agree to stop training Hezbollah-style terrorists in Shiite parts of Iraq. Iraq and its allies should not allow the mullahs of Tehran to export their sick ideology to the newly liberated country through violence and terror.

As a nation-state, Iran is not concerned with the Palestinian issue and has no reason to be Israel’s enemy. As a revolutionary cause, however, Iran must pose as Israel’s arch-foe to sell the Khomeinist regime’s claim of leadership to the Arabs.

As a nation, Iranians are among the few in the world that still like the U.S. As a revolution, however, Iran is the principal bastion of anti-Americanism. Last month, Tehran hosted an international conference titled “A World Without America.” Indeed, since the election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005, Iran has returned to a more acute state of revolutionary hysteria. Mr. Ahmadinejad seems to truly believe the “Hidden Imam” is coming to conquer the world for his brand of Islam. He does not appear to be interested in the kind of “carrots” that Secretary Rice was offering two years ago and Mr. Obama is hinting at today.

Mr. Ahmadinejad is talking about changing the destiny of mankind, while Mr. Obama and his foreign policy experts offer spare parts for Boeings or membership in the World Trade Organization. Perhaps Mr. Obama is unaware that one of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s first acts was to freeze Tehran’s efforts for securing WTO membership because he regards the outfit as “a nest of conspiracies by Zionists and Americans.”

Mr. Obama wavers back and forth over whether he will talk directly to Mr. Ahmadinejad or some other representative of the Islamic Republic, including the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Moreover, he does not make it clear which of the two Irans ñ the nation-state or the revolutionary cause ñ he wishes to “engage.” A misstep could legitimize the Khomeinist system and help it crush Iranians’ hope of return as a nation-state.

The Islamic Republic might welcome unconditional talks, but only if the U.S. signals readiness for unconditional surrender. Talk about talking to Iran and engaging Mr. Ahmadinejad cannot hide the fact that, three decades after Khomeinist thugs raided the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, America does not understand what is really happening in Iran.

Mr. Taheri’s new book, “The Persian Night: Iran From Khomeini to Ahmadinejad,” will be published later this year by Encounter Books.