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Joe ran with Weird Al.

This is what’s galled me for several years now: since 9-11, the Democrats have consistently put party loyalty and short-term electoral needs ahead of the nation’s interests. The Republicans are no angels, but they at least haven’t banked their futures on the defeat of their own country.

Oops… erased.

One single issue… Granted, it’s arguably the most important current issue facing the nation, but it’s still just one of many on the liberal platform. And they want to start with the excommunication process by taking the first step of shunning him.

I think there’s a very good argument that Lieberman’s adhering more closely to the ideals that liberals used to represent than what the current crop of apparatchiks do. Being a Reagan/Thatcher sort of conservative, I’ve never really paid much attention to Democrats, although I could respect them because of certain individuals in the party over the years (Moynihan was one way back when; Lieberman’s another). But this wholesale, not to mention almost enthusiastic attachment to the idea of failure is just utterly killing what respect I have. Is tearing George Bush’s work apart really so important that the nation’s goals and accomplishment are secondary?

Where are the principled Democrats? Lieberman’s one. Where are the rest?

God bless the guy. I disagree with him on most issues but at least he’s right on the most important one. I imagine that, percentage-wise, there are at least a few other Dems in Congress who privately agree with him on the GWOT (especially post-surge) but don’t act out of political expedience, fearing the whole “up against the wall, #%&*@#%!!” backlash from the hard Left should the Messiah ascend in November. Craven cowards.

John effing Kerry is perhaps the sorriest of the lot - it’s just that the competition is so damn fierce.

“Though shalt not speak ill” would have served the Dems well recently. But Dems are Dems, with a lower order of ethics. Actually, Reagan’s Commandment has precious little to do with the views of the Founders. It has everything to do with civility, collegiality, and making things work better. But this is probably lost on most progressive Left Coasters.

Recently some ex Bush fellow came out with a book that made the Administration look bad and he was called a traitor and all sorts of stuff. When McCain and a few others crossed the Aisle to cut the deal of seven they were called traitors.

It’s not just the Democrats. It’s usually them but not exclusively.

Recently some ex Bush fellow came out with a book that made the Administration look bad and he was called a traitor and all sorts of stuff.

Primarily McLellan’s book made the author look bad for cashing in. It made Bush appear too loyal - one of his big weaknesses - for appointing this nebbish and keeping him on staff when it was obvious to all that he was in over his head.

Bravo! to Senator Lieberman.

rjschwarz:

McClellan has no credibility. He changes his loyalty and his story with the prevailing political winds. Not to mention the money.

And I think that a lot of conservative Republicans are too hard on McCain.

But there is no comparison here. I used to be a Democrat. I left the party because they saw a political advantage in defeat. The Republicans may be guilty of a lot of things, but they do not yearn for American defeat just for the sake of short term political gain. And that is what the Democrats did.

Just look at Rockefeller, he went from fretting that Saddam would nuke us to accusing the President of “misleading” us into war. The sheer hypocritical posturing of it all is stunning.

Lieberman and Bush have more than the war in common, they are both still the men they were. They are not the ones who have changed. Pols in both parties have danced around all sorts of issues, but George Bush and Joe Lieberman just keep doing what they think is right.

What I find so amusing is that somehow Democrats expect party loyalty from Joe–as though they weren’t the ones who villified him and practically expelled him from the party, all over one (very important) issue. Now he’s supposed to cozy up to them?

Democrats have shown their cowardice and inability to lead; their national strategy is to let every issue go to hell, then blame Republicans (for example, Social Security, defense, Medicare).

I doubt that Lieberman is really all that much more principled than a typical politician–but at least he has *some*. (In the land of the blind, etc. etc.)

Scott

There. No more italics.

The Lieberman situation disgusts this ex-Democrat. Zell Miller retired rather than dealing with the turn and runners.