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July 26th, 2008 9:32 am

Note to Steve Schmidt (and Mike DuHaime) – you guys are Jewish

At least that’s so in the over-heated and oddly self-referential world of Joe Klein, where  John McCain is supposedly manipulated by “Jewish neoconservatives.”  Poor McCain, after all these years, unable to think for himself.

Speaking of “Jewish” sciences, I wonder what Klein’s unconscious is like. [No, don't go there.-ed. I was only going to call him a liberal reactionary.  I heard that already.]

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1. Lem:

Either Klein has not done his homework or he is so blinded by arterial motives and partisanship he doesn’t care his charge of Jewish manipulation of McCain is not supported by McCain’s political history.

Anybody that follows Washington politics knows McCain’s saint like status as an independent. There was even talk of McCain leaving the GOP – while the GOP was in the majority no less.

Here are some quotes from a 1997 NYT Magazine 7,643 word profile called “The Subversive”. (Yes, the same one now refusing him equal time)

McCain ambled in, unescorted. This in itself was unusual: every big-time politician I had met over the prior months traveled with a posse of aides to rope him off from the world. McCain introduced himself without staring me in the eye meaningfully for 10 seconds, which was also unusual. But what was truly unnerving was that, even though he was a Dole backer, he violated the Dole campaign’s three most sacred taboos: he praised Pat Buchanan, he called Ross Perot “a nut” and (the deepest heresy) he suggested that Dole should ignore his paid political operatives who were busy issuing anodyne statements on his behalf instead of letting the candidate speak openly for himself.

At the end of this astonishing monologue, I put down my notebook and tried to figure out what to do. A politician who lived dangerously! A politician who spoke his mind! It was all I could do to stop myself from shouting: Lie! Lie for your life! Lie or some journalist will take a quote from you and twist it around your neck! The man clearly needed to be protected. http://tinyurl.com/5f7mbe

McCain being manipulated?
I think Joe Klein is talking from another place…

Jul 26, 2008 - 12:16 pm 2. srlucado:

“…he is so blinded by arterial motives…”

On the contrary, I think his actions will be in vein.

(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

Anyway, not being Jewish I guess I’m in no position to speculate, but why are many Jews (like Klein) so culturally suicidal?

I know there are plenty of lapsed Catholics who denounce their former church, but let’s face it, Vatican City isn’t on Iran’s Nuclear Hit List (at least as far as we know); former Catholics might like to see the Pope get spanked, but certainly not nuked.

Wouldn’t it bother Klein and his ilk to see Jerusalem or Tel Aviv turned into a glowing crater? How would that make the world a better place? And how does it make McCain a worse presidential candidate by being committed to preventing it?

Scott

Jul 26, 2008 - 12:29 pm 3. david foster:

“Wouldn’t it bother Klein and his ilk to see Jerusalem or Tel Aviv turned into a glowing crater?”..I don’t think people like Klein think in those terms. To them, it’s all about domestic political gamesmanship.

Jul 26, 2008 - 4:55 pm 4. Lem:

Obama had been right about the war in the first place. It was a disastrous idea, a phenomenal waste of lives and American credibility. says Joe Klein.

There must have been a point when the tide turned in our favor during our revolutionary war, and the Joe Kleins of that time had to admit that we did the right thing by getting our freedom from the British. That time for Iraq is here, but the nay sayers are not going quietly.

Joe Klein is once again saying Iraq would have been better off under Saddam. I thought the voters decided that in 04 by returning Bush to the WH. In Joe Klein’s flat earth the voters were wrong.

Bush sent a ranking U.S. diplomat to negotiate with the Iranians on nuclear issues — and also let it be known that a U.S. Interests Section could soon be established in Tehran, the first U.S. diplomatic presence on Iranian soil since the 1979 hostage crisis. says Joe Klein.

This is blatant spin. Is Joe Klein saying he is against listening? I thought Bush never listened. The diplomatic presence is another sign we are serious about not letting Iran get the darn bomb. Carrots and sticks I believe they call it.

..nuclear issues. Notice how Joe can’t bring himself to say it – THEY WANT THE BOMB – AND WE ARE SAYING IT WONT BE SO JOE!

Bush bashers want to have it both ways. They paint a picture of a recalcitrant and stubborn Bush but when Bush does something they don’t expect and clearly should welcome then it’s Oh look he’s “undermining McCain”, when clearly the focus should be – don’t let the Iran get the darn bomb.

Jul 26, 2008 - 8:39 pm 5. ricpic:

“…why are so many Jews (like Klein) so culturally suicidal?”

All secular Jews are children of the Enlightenment. What this means, in extreme shorthand, is that they have gained the world and lost themselves (as Jews). As children of the Enlightenment they must play out the Enlightenment hand (the egalitarian agenda, secularization and the elimination of all differences between peoples) which spells the death of Jews qua Jews.

Only “retrograde” orthodox Jews – Jews who proudly differentiate themselves from Goyim, Jews who, horror of horrors, DISCRIMINATE, Jews hated passionately by secular Jews – will survive as a people.

Jul 27, 2008 - 3:38 pm 6. david levavi:

Neo is a prefix applied to Jews only once earlier in history. In Iberia, before and during the Inquisition, Jewish converts to Christianity were called Neo-Christians.

The neo-Christians were mainly converted en masse by force in the centuries before the Inquisition. Repeated attempts by the Rabbis to return the neo-Christians to Judaism failed. During the Inquisition, many of these sincere Christians were suspected of secret Jewish worship, tortured and burned. (Minutes were kept of Inquisitor’s interrogations and the painful responses of those on the rack—I’ll never forget the pleadings of a fourteen year old girl being pulled apart—leave no doubt as to their honest Christian faith.)

The terrible cloud that hangs over the Inquisition beyond the torture and the burning alive of many thousands of innocents, Jewish and Christian, is racism. The sincerity of a Jew’s conversion to Christianity was rendered immaterial. The Jesuit charter, written in that reactionary period, specifically excludes anyone with Jewish blood from membership in the order.

As the paleo-Christians of the Inquisition hated the neo-Christians, so the paleo-conservatives of today despise the neo-conservatives. And the paleo-conservatives of today bear striking resemblance to the reactionary, racist, Jew-hating, paleo-Christians of yesterday.

The father of American conservatism was Barry Goldwater, the proud (Christian) son of a Polish Jew. The social conservatives who flocked to his cause were called ‘new conservatives.’ The ‘new conservatives’ included Pat Buchanan and the YAF.

The true American paleo-conservatives were the Nativists whose agenda was to put Pat Buchanan’s kind on boats back to Ireland.

In any event, the neo conservative agenda is nothing to be ashamed of. One can only hope that the moderate Muslims who are its immediate beneficiaries are worthy of it. If so, George Bush will be remembered as a great president.

Joe Klein is a shallow, spoiled, bagels’n lox American Jew. All slick sophistication and no depth. No more loyal to Judaism and the Jewish people as he is to America and the American people.

To bagels’n lox American Jews, Jewish history begins with the Holocaust. Their faith is Socialism, their denomination the Democratic Party. They’re hypocrites who pass off their cowardice as humanitarianism. They claim solidarity with those with whom they share nothing but disdain for American arms and the American government. They’re self-deluded naifs who imagine that hostility to Zionism will ingratiate them to the enemies of ordinary Jews less progressive and left-leaning than they are.

Joe Klein is and his all too numerous kind are an embarrassment. Their opinions are the bleating of timorous, ignorant sheep.

Jul 27, 2008 - 3:59 pm 7. Kevin Peters:

So Klein doesn’t think Iran is a threat to Israel? Let’s see, they are in the process of getting the bomb, they have spelled out their desire to see Israel wiped off the map of the world and they finance, train, and arm groups that attempt to murder Israeli soldiers and citizens daily. Yes, any sane person would realize that Sen. Mccain is just a bellicose warmonger in the thrall of rich Jews who are manipulating him into upsetting the lovely peace of the middle east for their own gain. How could we be so stupid as to not see how wise Mr. Klein is and how deluded and testy Sen. McCain is. If we just ignore Iran the problems will simply vanish.

Jul 28, 2008 - 12:30 pm 8. cubanbob:

Klein would have been a kapo at Auschwitz. If only he was a mere fool that would be sad but nevertheless amusing. It is influential people like him that will cause irreparable harm to the US and the Jewish people.

Aug 1, 2008 - 11:09 am

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