Comments on: Obama, Me and Guilt-by-Association http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:42:05 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Herb http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97424 Herb Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:56:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97424 Sorry, Rog, I'm not buying it. And I'm not talking about your book. I'm talking about your sincerity. You open this post with "I’m opposed to guilt-by-association." And then spend the next 6 paragraphs dancing to the "guilt-by-association" tune. And I think you knew it, too, which is why you offered up this dodge: "No matter what the truth is, this obfuscation makes it worse. Indeed, the obfuscation is the problem, in itself probably worse than almost any possible fact being hidden." It's not the Weather Underground ties. It's the obfuscation! So which is it, Roger? Is the obfuscation really the issue? Or are you trying to play the guilt-by-association game? Based on the preceding comments, it seems that most people are picking up on the latter option... Sorry, Rog, I’m not buying it. And I’m not talking about your book. I’m talking about your sincerity.

You open this post with “I’m opposed to guilt-by-association.” And then spend the next 6 paragraphs dancing to the “guilt-by-association” tune.

And I think you knew it, too, which is why you offered up this dodge:
“No matter what the truth is, this obfuscation makes it worse. Indeed, the obfuscation is the problem, in itself probably worse than almost any possible fact being hidden.”

It’s not the Weather Underground ties. It’s the obfuscation!

So which is it, Roger? Is the obfuscation really the issue? Or are you trying to play the guilt-by-association game?

Based on the preceding comments, it seems that most people are picking up on the latter option…

]]> By: Chet http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97416 Chet Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:21:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97416 Obama grew up black, abandoned by his black father, with a white mother and a white sister. His book (Dreams from my Father) written when he was 34 states his hate of being black, hate of being black in white America, hate of whites. Its a book all about rage and hate AND how he learned to con whites PAGE 94 "tricks I had learned, making no sudden moves, courteous and smiled" "They were relieved--such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn't seem angry all the time." PAGE 83 "WITHDRAWL INTO A SMALLER AND SMALLER COIL OF RAGE, UNTIL BEING BLACK MEANT ONLY THE KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR OWN POWERLESSNES OF YOUR OWN DEFEAT...A NAME FOR THAT TOO, A NAME THAT WOUOLD CAGE YOU JUST AS GOOD. PARANOID, MILITANT, VIOLENT, NIGGER." PAGE 81 "OUR RAGE AT THE WHITE WORLD NEEDFED NO OBJECT...IT COULD BE SWITCHED ON AND OFF AT OUR PLEASURE." READ HIS BOOK, YOU WILL BE OUTRAGED Obama grew up black, abandoned by his black father, with a white mother and a white sister. His book (Dreams from my Father) written when he was 34 states his hate of being black, hate of being black in white America, hate of whites. Its a book all about rage and hate AND how he learned to con whites PAGE 94 “tricks I had learned, making no sudden moves, courteous and smiled” “They were relieved–such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time.”

PAGE 83 “WITHDRAWL INTO A SMALLER AND SMALLER COIL OF RAGE, UNTIL BEING BLACK MEANT ONLY THE KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR OWN POWERLESSNES OF YOUR OWN DEFEAT…A NAME FOR THAT TOO, A NAME THAT WOUOLD CAGE YOU JUST AS GOOD. PARANOID, MILITANT, VIOLENT, NIGGER.” PAGE 81 “OUR RAGE AT THE WHITE WORLD NEEDFED NO OBJECT…IT COULD BE SWITCHED ON AND OFF AT OUR PLEASURE.”

READ HIS BOOK, YOU WILL BE OUTRAGED

]]> By: Gary Rosen http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97401 Gary Rosen Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:42:55 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97401 I'm in the parody camp for Bryan. It was the 75% vote for Obama. Even the battiest of moonbats are expecting only 65-70%, tops. I’m in the parody camp for Bryan. It was the 75% vote for Obama. Even the battiest of moonbats are expecting only 65-70%, tops.

]]> By: Barry Dauphin http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97396 Barry Dauphin Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:25:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97396 Well I should not trust those ideas when running. Biden as Veep? A dream come true for the Republicans. Put Delaware in the win column for Obama. Well I should not trust those ideas when running. Biden as Veep? A dream come true for the Republicans. Put Delaware in the win column for Obama.

]]> By: Lem http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97395 Lem Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:19:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97395 Stealing Hillary was a dress rehearsal. http://tinyurl.com/6yhyvm Stealing Hillary was a dress rehearsal.

http://tinyurl.com/6yhyvm

]]> By: Lem http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97394 Lem Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:37:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97394 Where is Woodward and Bernstein? Where is Michael Isikoff? Where is Seymour Hersh? Do you think McCain past would get a pass like Obama gets'? Nooooooh..., we want to know if that cross in McCain's prison camp was made up. We want to know if McCain was not in a "cone of silence" prior to his church appearance. We want to know how many houses his wife Cindy has. yea yea, that's the ticket! Where is Woodward and Bernstein?
Where is Michael Isikoff?
Where is Seymour Hersh?

Do you think McCain past would get a pass like Obama gets’?

Nooooooh…, we want to know if that cross in McCain’s prison camp was made up. We want to know if McCain was not in a “cone of silence” prior to his church appearance. We want to know how many houses his wife Cindy has.

yea yea, that’s the ticket!

]]> By: Terrye http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97392 Terrye Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:06:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97392 Illegal war? Hey Congress voted for that war, they never voted to give the Weathermen the right to blow things up. Illegal war? Hey Congress voted for that war, they never voted to give the Weathermen the right to blow things up.

]]> By: tim maguire http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97391 tim maguire Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:42:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97391 OK, Brian G., it's time to come back and settle this. I'm in the parody camp--it was perfect. Too perfect. No real moonbat could express moonbattiness so well. You were probably laughing your ass off as you typed that and you deserve a beer from every person here. OK, Brian G., it’s time to come back and settle this. I’m in the parody camp–it was perfect. Too perfect. No real moonbat could express moonbattiness so well. You were probably laughing your ass off as you typed that and you deserve a beer from every person here.

]]> By: Barry Dauphin http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97390 Barry Dauphin Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:57:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97390 OT Prediction: Obama picks Hillary | Mcain picks Romney Just a thought crossing my mind while running. If Obama waits this long before convention to pick anyone but Hillary, that person won't be prepared well for the convention (thus Obama is not prepared-something we all know but becomes painfully reinforced by the adolescent teasing about who his VP will be and only giving the person a short time to prepare for convention and write a major speech and climb on board the support train). OT

Prediction: Obama picks Hillary | Mcain picks Romney
Just a thought crossing my mind while running. If Obama waits this long before convention to pick anyone but Hillary, that person won’t be prepared well for the convention (thus Obama is not prepared-something we all know but becomes painfully reinforced by the adolescent teasing about who his VP will be and only giving the person a short time to prepare for convention and write a major speech and climb on board the support train).

]]> By: Roderick Reilly http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97389 Roderick Reilly Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:50:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2008/08/21/obama-me-and-guilt-by-association/#comment-97389 Obama is an assiduous student of the modern way of getting ahead. No need for a moral compass, and no need to be embarrassed or to feel guilt about anything. Absolve oneself and move on. He has observed this work time and again for other successful politicians, like both Clintons, so he has refined the art. He's an alchemist who is figuring out how to turn the leaden lump that is his real self into Presidential gold. Problem is, it's just gold paint. Scratch the paint, and the dull lead is revealed underneath. The lump of lead that is Obama sure is getting scratched and pitted lately. Obama is an assiduous student of the modern way of getting ahead. No need for a moral compass, and no need to be embarrassed or to feel guilt about anything. Absolve oneself and move on.

He has observed this work time and again for other successful politicians, like both Clintons, so he has refined the art. He’s an alchemist who is figuring out how to turn the leaden lump that is his real self into Presidential gold.

Problem is, it’s just gold paint. Scratch the paint, and the dull lead is revealed underneath. The lump of lead that is Obama sure is getting scratched and pitted lately.

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