You know what I would love to see ?

This sad deluded basement dweller having the b**** to say that garbage to the lady herself. Face to face. No witnesses. In Alaska.

Stupid ‘progressive’ dweeb. Golly I am now wondering of there is any ‘other’ type of ‘progressive’. Are you all this abysmal ?

Obama usually whines and complains like the proverbial girly-man about the treatment he gets when he is criticized, and it appears his natural demographic is every bit as annoying. Well at least it keeps them occupied I supposed.

“As far as I can tell” you have revealed who is “weak, whiny, self-righteous, sanctimonious, and as unprepared as, well,” your average run-of-the-mill troll.

What is it the Republican-media says about Barak Obama? Oh, yeah, a good speaker. Well, so is Sarah Palin, when a top speech writer is writing for her. Doesn’t make her VP material.

But just for the record, nobody ever said they wanted a hockey mom in the white house. And if the voters do decide they want one – they can have Cindy McCain, a perfectly good hockey mom herself.

The fact is, and the truth is, the nation does not need Sarah Palin. She adds nothing.

In her state, every citizen gets a check from the government. No wonder McCain, on the government dole himself, likes her so much. That’s right, as far as I can tell, McCain has never worked for anyone other than the government. No one. Think about that.

mmmk, naturally someone who makes personal (racist) comments like that would remain anonymous. Even more so when they are demonstrably wrong. (See Lightnin’ Hopkins above.) Comments like yours are yet another example why so many liberals have morphed into reactionaries without realizing it. Wake up, amigo.

“Sarah Palin’s campaign slogan in her mayoral race in 1996 was “Wasilla’s First Christian Mayor!”"

Nice try.

From Anchorage Daily News-dot-com, 10/23/2006:

AFTER she was first elected mayor, her predecessor, John Stein, objected that a Valley cable TV program had hailed her as “Wasilla’s first “Christian mayor.” In a column for the local newspaper, he named eight previous mayors and added that he, too, was a Christian, despite a name that led some voters to suspect “I must be a non-Christian, have non-Christian blood or at least have sympathized with a non-Christian sometime in my career.”

(Cap emphasis mine)

Who needs context when you’re painting with a broad brush, right? As Whole Lotta Rosie once famously declared, “Google it!”

Next time, maybe *before* you wag your finger at Roger by playing the grandmother card.

Much as I am as fair as the day is long as you well know. The veritable soul of moderation if you recall.

You might want to catch the Rasmussen Poll Results for today.

Spectacular !!

Yesterday:
The Zero – 50
The Hero – 45

Today:
The Zero – 48
The Hero – 46

A drop of 3 points in ONE day. Todays polling includes ONLY 1 day of POP(post-Palin) data as per the Ramussen site. When the other PRP(pre-Palin) days are washed out I fully expect the ONE to be wondering what the license plate of that truck was. And that does not include any small effect that John’s effort last night might have had. And that effect certainly won’t be negative.

If Obama falls behind by any significant margin —- he simply won’t be getting back up. Messiahs have to deliver the goods. Otherwise the ‘believers’ get a trifle antsy and start to look around for a new savior.

Now it’s just one poll, but I submit it as evidence to buttress my stated position on the Palin Pick. For every one who might be leery of her ‘values’, there are many many more who just connect with her on a very visceral level. They probably could not even explain it (properly) if you asked.

Elections are almost never decided by reason. That’s a conceit. They are decided much more by ‘feelings’. Not thsoe annoying touchy-feely new-age thingies, but the ’sense’ of the candidate that the voter experiences on some essentially subconscious level. That is why almost every ‘expert’ says that ‘likeability’ is the one attribute that any successful political animal HAS to have. ‘Likeability covers a LOT of ground. But you either have it or you don’t. And if you don’t, you have a truly steep hill to climb.

Palin has likeability to spare. She could even spare a good deal to hand out some to both Obama and Biden and still tower over them.

ps — See also Rasmussen for new data that indicates that Palin is more popular than BOTH Obama & McCain. If true that makes Johnny Mac a political genius of the first order. A hero and a tactical/strategic genius — what’s not to like ?

Nice reply as per usual. But can we nail down the exact numbers here. Now that these (50) people are all in Ohio your reservations do become a bit more amplified but am I still in the ballpark at 12?

Well, out of the group of 15 that I hang out with in Tuesday nights, I would say about 10 were serious McCain supporters (I have been since ‘04 in fact). about 4 of those were horrified by the Palin choice because of the inexperience, and then later by the God comments (the one libertarian didn’t mind any of that, but since then he’s been sending emails about her involvement in earmarks and pork since then, so I don’t think he’s too happy about that).

Personally, I’d hoped for a Tom Ridge or even Joe Lieberman (though on most stuff he’s still pretty big gov/tax&spend). I’ll wait and see what Palin does during the next several weeks before I decide, but (as my point before) the potential Spin of some of these old sound bites are not gonna be pretty.

I think he can afford to lose the 12, I postulated, but would not want to chance too many more. Ohio looks a little ‘tight’ again.

Hehe, I agree… and honestly, the Central Ohio I’m living in has been trending away from the GOP over the past 8 years. I was excited about the amount of McCain support, but the initial responses to Palin have been very mixed at best. I think its a gamble, one that might pay off, but still quite a gamble, there were probably picks he could have made that would have kept the broader support that he had (and perhaps still has… maybe its sour grapes we’ll see).

ps — Interesting collection of friends. You must have some good conversations.

Absolutely, watching my friend the soon to be Dr. debating philosophy (based on what he’s learned in his years in school) with the Strip Club manager (who has an interesting philosophy based on his personal experiences) is fun. Mixing that with a Discordian, Libertarian, Liberal (hardcore), and ex Mormon, our Tuesday nights are like living in a blog comment section

We all subscribe to the code of the Sacred Bull “TFY,S!” (Think For Yourself, Schmuck!), so the debates often cover areas that I’ve never really considered… and since we’re all old friends, even stark variations in our ideas don’t get people upset. It’s really kinda nice

Call it Moose Hunting Chutzpah