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		<title>By: Anita Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we better fear the people behind Sen. Obama more than him. He will end up taking orders just as most have done in the past 30 years or more. I as a previous Demo, now Indie, remember the &quot;Power&#039;s that Be&quot; promised a democratic general the presidency if he changed parties , he did and he
became  a Republican President. Now we have a young Sen. that has set goals for himself &amp; his wife with the use of questionable people in his past &amp;
present path of ambition and we seem to feel it is ok to look the other way. The citizen&#039;s of this country need to investigate why our school education has been in such a decline since the 60&#039;s &amp; 70&quot;s, and question why the Ayer&#039;s family seemed to take control of large sums needed to change the educational system by rewriting books used to educate our children. Check out the wording and changes they made if you can still find some old books. 
Does anyone remember early TV when women of the black community started using hair colors  and make-up to improve their already great looks? I do
and it was people of color that condemed them of trying to be white , we have come a long way since that period and we have away to go but it need not
be ugly and destructive. I think Sen. McCain was so very right in telling us to listen carefully to the words, check out and decipher truth from fiction. We all love fiction but we can not hope to servive without truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we better fear the people behind Sen. Obama more than him. He will end up taking orders just as most have done in the past 30 years or more. I as a previous Demo, now Indie, remember the &#8220;Power&#8217;s that Be&#8221; promised a democratic general the presidency if he changed parties , he did and he<br />
became  a Republican President. Now we have a young Sen. that has set goals for himself &amp; his wife with the use of questionable people in his past &amp;<br />
present path of ambition and we seem to feel it is ok to look the other way. The citizen&#8217;s of this country need to investigate why our school education has been in such a decline since the 60&#8217;s &amp; 70&#8243;s, and question why the Ayer&#8217;s family seemed to take control of large sums needed to change the educational system by rewriting books used to educate our children. Check out the wording and changes they made if you can still find some old books.<br />
Does anyone remember early TV when women of the black community started using hair colors  and make-up to improve their already great looks? I do<br />
and it was people of color that condemed them of trying to be white , we have come a long way since that period and we have away to go but it need not<br />
be ugly and destructive. I think Sen. McCain was so very right in telling us to listen carefully to the words, check out and decipher truth from fiction. We all love fiction but we can not hope to servive without truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steph, First History, Jeremiah, Nick &amp; Jay

 I appreciate your commentary on this thread, because clearly you are the voice of reason. If any earnest Republicans out there want to know why their party has difficulty attracting non-whites, they just simply need to read this thread.

 For example:

&gt;&gt;&gt;11. Bob:
 
&quot;One affirmative action hire endorsing another. No news here.&quot;

Oct 19, 2008 - 10:45 am

&gt;&gt;&gt;20. Paul from Florida:
 
&quot;Obama, Powell. The rise of the affimitive action Princes.&quot;

Oct 19, 2008 - 12:17 pm

Message to Non-Whites? No matter what you work hard and achieve in this country, you will be forever suspect in the eyes of  White Republicans.

And here:

&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;65. Paul from Florida:
 
&quot;Politics is war by other means. Socialist want their supporters to have stuff that they want. Houses, cars, rims, and so forth. 95% of Blacks are supporting Obama, because he is Black, and will give them things.&quot;

Oct 20, 2008 - 8:49 am

 Other than sounding ridiculous, I would love for Paul to explain the Black vote in past elections:

1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%
2004 John Kerry 88% George W. Bush 11%

 Pssst...Paul--those are all White people up there. Most African-Americans vote for Democrats, Paul. Apparently, as Colin Powell found out, we&#039;re only welcome in the GOP as long as blindly obey extreme right winged orthodoxy.

  Actually, the bait is out there, my conservative friends. Go ahead and play Ashley Todd-- http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/24/mccain-campaign-volunteer-admits-alleged-attack-hoax/ -- and try to use Jeremiah Wright against Obama in these last 10 days.

 I double-dog dare the GOP. It will be a worse beating than it&#039;s already gonna be, and on election night, I&#039;ll be in bed by 9:05 PM.

--Cobra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph, First History, Jeremiah, Nick &amp; Jay</p>
<p> I appreciate your commentary on this thread, because clearly you are the voice of reason. If any earnest Republicans out there want to know why their party has difficulty attracting non-whites, they just simply need to read this thread.</p>
<p> For example:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;11. Bob:</p>
<p>&#8220;One affirmative action hire endorsing another. No news here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oct 19, 2008 &#8211; 10:45 am</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;20. Paul from Florida:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama, Powell. The rise of the affimitive action Princes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oct 19, 2008 &#8211; 12:17 pm</p>
<p>Message to Non-Whites? No matter what you work hard and achieve in this country, you will be forever suspect in the eyes of  White Republicans.</p>
<p>And here:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;65. Paul from Florida:</p>
<p>&#8220;Politics is war by other means. Socialist want their supporters to have stuff that they want. Houses, cars, rims, and so forth. 95% of Blacks are supporting Obama, because he is Black, and will give them things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oct 20, 2008 &#8211; 8:49 am</p>
<p> Other than sounding ridiculous, I would love for Paul to explain the Black vote in past elections:</p>
<p>1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%<br />
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%<br />
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%<br />
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%<br />
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%<br />
2004 John Kerry 88% George W. Bush 11%</p>
<p> Pssst&#8230;Paul&#8211;those are all White people up there. Most African-Americans vote for Democrats, Paul. Apparently, as Colin Powell found out, we&#8217;re only welcome in the GOP as long as blindly obey extreme right winged orthodoxy.</p>
<p>  Actually, the bait is out there, my conservative friends. Go ahead and play Ashley Todd&#8211; <a href="http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/24/mccain-campaign-volunteer-admits-alleged-attack-hoax/" rel="nofollow">http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/24/mccain-campaign-volunteer-admits-alleged-attack-hoax/</a> &#8212; and try to use Jeremiah Wright against Obama in these last 10 days.</p>
<p> I double-dog dare the GOP. It will be a worse beating than it&#8217;s already gonna be, and on election night, I&#8217;ll be in bed by 9:05 PM.</p>
<p>&#8211;Cobra</p>
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		<title>By: RIch Rostrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIch Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powell&#039;s endorsement is self-preservation.

He is buying immunity from war-crimes prosecution.

You think the Obamacrats _won&#039;t_ conduct a witch-hunt against everyone in the Bush administration associated with the war? And Powell as SoS at the time could easily be roped in. This way he has bought some cover, and can probably get off by testifying for the prosecution about how he was lied to by those evil neocons.

I&#039;ll say this much - I don&#039;t think he&#039;d have done this if he thought McCain had a decent chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powell&#8217;s endorsement is self-preservation.</p>
<p>He is buying immunity from war-crimes prosecution.</p>
<p>You think the Obamacrats _won&#8217;t_ conduct a witch-hunt against everyone in the Bush administration associated with the war? And Powell as SoS at the time could easily be roped in. This way he has bought some cover, and can probably get off by testifying for the prosecution about how he was lied to by those evil neocons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say this much &#8211; I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d have done this if he thought McCain had a decent chance.</p>
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		<title>By: bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Powell&#039;s endorsement of Ob is racism. Understandable, but still racism. Howard Stern had some &quot;man on the street&quot; interviews with Harlem residents who insisted that their vote for Ob was for his policies, yet, when McCain policy (pro-life) was described as Ob&#039;s, and VP selection (Palin) was described as Ob&#039;s, they all enthusiastically endorsed them. Racism.

I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to deny the potention for domestic violence of the non-marital sort if Ob wins. It won&#039;t be over his election, but future actions. He was a director on the board of the Joyce Foundation, and if he follows his inclination (despite all his present protestations to the contrary), we&#039;ll see another heavy handed BATF**kup which will create a few more McVeighs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powell&#8217;s endorsement of Ob is racism. Understandable, but still racism. Howard Stern had some &#8220;man on the street&#8221; interviews with Harlem residents who insisted that their vote for Ob was for his policies, yet, when McCain policy (pro-life) was described as Ob&#8217;s, and VP selection (Palin) was described as Ob&#8217;s, they all enthusiastically endorsed them. Racism.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to deny the potention for domestic violence of the non-marital sort if Ob wins. It won&#8217;t be over his election, but future actions. He was a director on the board of the Joyce Foundation, and if he follows his inclination (despite all his present protestations to the contrary), we&#8217;ll see another heavy handed BATF**kup which will create a few more McVeighs.</p>
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		<title>By: hanoi paris hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanoi paris hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate the climbdown, Trang, but the word is &quot;aspersions&quot;...

BTW, I just came back to Chicago exurbs from a small Americal reunion in Fairbanks AK, followed by a potlatch in our honor mounted by the Upper Tanana band of Athabascans, in Northway AK (our platoon sniper Chief Sherman --who I never saw shoot anybody or anything-- was one of them). It made the local press. All kinds of people, may of them serving- or ex-military, were coming up to the geezer VN vets from the lower 48, and thanking us from the heart for being &quot;heroes&quot; in &#039;68-69. Not quite the correct hit, but you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate the climbdown, Trang, but the word is &#8220;aspersions&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, I just came back to Chicago exurbs from a small Americal reunion in Fairbanks AK, followed by a potlatch in our honor mounted by the Upper Tanana band of Athabascans, in Northway AK (our platoon sniper Chief Sherman &#8211;who I never saw shoot anybody or anything&#8211; was one of them). It made the local press. All kinds of people, may of them serving- or ex-military, were coming up to the geezer VN vets from the lower 48, and thanking us from the heart for being &#8220;heroes&#8221; in &#8216;68-69. Not quite the correct hit, but you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: schnargley</title>
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		<dc:creator>schnargley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Powell! It was high time he stopped carrying water for the white oppresors and renounce his Uncle Tomism.

Plus, we will need a few good generals to make sure The Change led by the &quot;Transformational Figure&quot; proceeds without right-wingers trying to subvert it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Powell! It was high time he stopped carrying water for the white oppresors and renounce his Uncle Tomism.</p>
<p>Plus, we will need a few good generals to make sure The Change led by the &#8220;Transformational Figure&#8221; proceeds without right-wingers trying to subvert it.</p>
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		<title>By: trangbang68</title>
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		<dc:creator>trangbang68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m chastened. I thought Powell had a more senior rank. I do need to let the Americal go. No doubt lots of brave men.Sorry for casting dispersions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m chastened. I thought Powell had a more senior rank. I do need to let the Americal go. No doubt lots of brave men.Sorry for casting dispersions.</p>
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		<title>By: hanoi paris hilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanoi paris hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Trangbang, I thought we went around once on the Americal already? &quot;Unanimously ranked  as the worst American division in that war&quot;, ehh,? 

Again, how would you know? The Americal&#039;s area of operations (AO), the furthest north of any regular unit of the US Army (excepting a mechanized infantry outfit up on the DMZ, who probably seldom got off the road and out of their tracks) was possibly the most challenging AO at the height of ground war: wall to wall booby-traps and snipers, primary entry points into RVN of the Ho Chi Minh trail(s), plenty of NVN main force units, extremnely difficult terrain (only place in S. VN where the mountain range separating VN from Laos actually extends all the S. China sea coast.

Regarding Powell&#039;s &quot;command position&quot;... he was a 2nd Lt. platoon (20-40 troops, depending on combat losses) leader, one of probably 300 such in the entire division.

Stop beating this one to death, Trang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Trangbang, I thought we went around once on the Americal already? &#8220;Unanimously ranked  as the worst American division in that war&#8221;, ehh,? </p>
<p>Again, how would you know? The Americal&#8217;s area of operations (AO), the furthest north of any regular unit of the US Army (excepting a mechanized infantry outfit up on the DMZ, who probably seldom got off the road and out of their tracks) was possibly the most challenging AO at the height of ground war: wall to wall booby-traps and snipers, primary entry points into RVN of the Ho Chi Minh trail(s), plenty of NVN main force units, extremnely difficult terrain (only place in S. VN where the mountain range separating VN from Laos actually extends all the S. China sea coast.</p>
<p>Regarding Powell&#8217;s &#8220;command position&#8221;&#8230; he was a 2nd Lt. platoon (20-40 troops, depending on combat losses) leader, one of probably 300 such in the entire division.</p>
<p>Stop beating this one to death, Trang!</p>
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		<title>By: trangbang68</title>
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		<dc:creator>trangbang68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While everybody is slinging dispersions I will sling one at Powell&#039;s combat record. He served in a command position in the Americal Division in Viet Nam. They were pretty much unanimously ranked as the worst American division in that war.. One of their units perpetrated the My Lai
massacre although before Powell&#039;s time. During his tenure they were a largely combat ineffective unit with morale problems, racial strife, insubordination under fire and other issues. Powell did not get his stars through merit but through politics and affirmative action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While everybody is slinging dispersions I will sling one at Powell&#8217;s combat record. He served in a command position in the Americal Division in Viet Nam. They were pretty much unanimously ranked as the worst American division in that war.. One of their units perpetrated the My Lai<br />
massacre although before Powell&#8217;s time. During his tenure they were a largely combat ineffective unit with morale problems, racial strife, insubordination under fire and other issues. Powell did not get his stars through merit but through politics and affirmative action.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Powell was a two-faced, arrogant hypocrite in 1996 when my most liberal/insane friends said they&#039;d vote for him over Clinton.

When my boss, who ONLY gets his news from MSNBC, praised Powell incessantly in 2004 during the Iraq War, I knew Powell was a schmuck who&#039;d be leaving the &quot;good side&quot; soon eough.

Powell is a racist as he is with Obama only due to race. That is the definition. He&#039;s no better than any other black supporting BHO just b/c he&#039;s black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Powell was a two-faced, arrogant hypocrite in 1996 when my most liberal/insane friends said they&#8217;d vote for him over Clinton.</p>
<p>When my boss, who ONLY gets his news from MSNBC, praised Powell incessantly in 2004 during the Iraq War, I knew Powell was a schmuck who&#8217;d be leaving the &#8220;good side&#8221; soon eough.</p>
<p>Powell is a racist as he is with Obama only due to race. That is the definition. He&#8217;s no better than any other black supporting BHO just b/c he&#8217;s black.</p>
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