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		<title>By: Sami</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/06/the-msm-gaza-and-pajamas-tv/#comment-114583</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sami</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2009/01/06/the-msm-gaza-and-pajamas-tv/#comment-114582</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.
Here&#039;s my opinion, in an entertaining form.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
Here&#8217;s my opinion, in an entertaining form.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant Menachem Begin &amp; David Ben-Gurion.  BTW, Obama will destroy us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant Menachem Begin &amp; David Ben-Gurion.  BTW, Obama will destroy us.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the search efforts here are shabby to say the least. The aid figures posted, btw, are way off. It exceeds 4.4 Billion to Jordan since &#039;52, but not 44 Bil., and 40 Million to Lebanon, not 339 Mil. http://www.usaid.gov/lb/ and so on.

Okay back to the search engines:::::
Officially, its about 4-5 billion a year to israel. But. If you add in loans that are &quot;forgiven&quot; by Congress, loaning of military equipment, (also never paid for), US State, Fed and local gov investments in israeli bonds with workers retirement funds etc... It&#039;s more like 20 billion!!  And now that we must borrow from China to keep the US economy afloat, does this really make sense??

The Civil War in Palestine from 1947-48 was started by the Arabs who were unhappy about the acceptance of the UN Partition Plan.

The israelis never accepted the 1948 UN partition either. When israel declared themselves a new nation in 1948, they refused to define there borders. Why? Because they were already in the process of taking more land from the Palestinians.
  
Also, if you go back to numerous speeches made by Mehachum Begin and David ben-Gurien in the 1930&#039;s and 40&#039;s, you would see that they made it very clear there would be no sharing of the land with the Palestinians. 

Black September?
Israel was trying to stick Egypt and Jordan with a refugee problem of Israel&#039;s making.  The Arabs fled because of systematic terrorizing of the the Palestinians.  Then the israeli gov passed a law which said you could not be an absentee land owner and promptly confiscated the land from the refugees.

Winners get to keep land and expel losers???
So when Hitler took Poland and France in 1940 did the rest of the world say he won this land in a war and so it&#039;s justified?? You can&#039;t take away a people&#039;s country and say its OK because it was won in a war!! Is justice just a matter of might makes right??

The old standby! If someone criticizes the israeli gov they must be anti-semitic. I also criticize the Chinese government. Would you assume that I secretly hate all Chinese people???? Please. Get over the paranoia. You can&#039;t abuse the Palestinians for 60 years and then hide behind the cloak of anti-semitism when there is legitimate criticism.  

I want to see Arabs and Jews living in peace. By addressing the needs of both sides, this can be accomplished. The &quot;flatten the neighborhood&quot; mentality here has not solved anything in the last 60 years and only created more hatred and violence.  

Peace all*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the search efforts here are shabby to say the least. The aid figures posted, btw, are way off. It exceeds 4.4 Billion to Jordan since &#8216;52, but not 44 Bil., and 40 Million to Lebanon, not 339 Mil. <a href="http://www.usaid.gov/lb/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usaid.gov/lb/</a> and so on.</p>
<p>Okay back to the search engines:::::<br />
Officially, its about 4-5 billion a year to israel. But. If you add in loans that are &#8220;forgiven&#8221; by Congress, loaning of military equipment, (also never paid for), US State, Fed and local gov investments in israeli bonds with workers retirement funds etc&#8230; It&#8217;s more like 20 billion!!  And now that we must borrow from China to keep the US economy afloat, does this really make sense??</p>
<p>The Civil War in Palestine from 1947-48 was started by the Arabs who were unhappy about the acceptance of the UN Partition Plan.</p>
<p>The israelis never accepted the 1948 UN partition either. When israel declared themselves a new nation in 1948, they refused to define there borders. Why? Because they were already in the process of taking more land from the Palestinians.</p>
<p>Also, if you go back to numerous speeches made by Mehachum Begin and David ben-Gurien in the 1930&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s, you would see that they made it very clear there would be no sharing of the land with the Palestinians. </p>
<p>Black September?<br />
Israel was trying to stick Egypt and Jordan with a refugee problem of Israel&#8217;s making.  The Arabs fled because of systematic terrorizing of the the Palestinians.  Then the israeli gov passed a law which said you could not be an absentee land owner and promptly confiscated the land from the refugees.</p>
<p>Winners get to keep land and expel losers???<br />
So when Hitler took Poland and France in 1940 did the rest of the world say he won this land in a war and so it&#8217;s justified?? You can&#8217;t take away a people&#8217;s country and say its OK because it was won in a war!! Is justice just a matter of might makes right??</p>
<p>The old standby! If someone criticizes the israeli gov they must be anti-semitic. I also criticize the Chinese government. Would you assume that I secretly hate all Chinese people???? Please. Get over the paranoia. You can&#8217;t abuse the Palestinians for 60 years and then hide behind the cloak of anti-semitism when there is legitimate criticism.  </p>
<p>I want to see Arabs and Jews living in peace. By addressing the needs of both sides, this can be accomplished. The &#8220;flatten the neighborhood&#8221; mentality here has not solved anything in the last 60 years and only created more hatred and violence.  </p>
<p>Peace all*</p>
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		<title>By: BrianNY</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having recently witnessed over a month&#039;s worth of traumatic activity in an ER and a ICU facility, I was struck by the behavior of the two doctors in this latest Palestinian video about a child killed by an Israeli bomb while at play on a rooftop .  Perhaps doctors in Gaza do things differently than doctors at Yale/New Haven Hospital here in the US, but the following caught my eye:

1. :08 into one of the Youtube videos, what kind of card or paperwork could the Norwegian doctor be bothering to move or &quot;straighten up&quot; while the Palestinian doctor is furiously tickling the patient&#039;s chest? In my experience, anything that wasn&#039;t priority during a trauma situation was summarily tossed on the floor and dealt with later.

2. What are those clear IV fluids shown running into the patients left arm? Are any of them as vital as plasma? Is plasma usually run into the arm, or into a larger vein/artery?  My experience showed that prepping an IV line was a needle insertion process that took a couple of critical minutes.  Would there have been time to prepare an IV process for clear fluids before a CPR process was even concluded?

3. Sound and visuals indicate that the EKG monitoring system was on and functioning, however at :20 into one of the Youtube videos, the Norwegian doctor appears to then be applying some EKG stickers to the patient&#039;s chest.  Is this consistent or out of sequence in regards to EKG procedure? 

4. :16 into one of the Youtube videos, the Palestinian doctor, still applying the tickling method to the patient&#039;s chest, appears to ask the Norwegian doctor a question, to which the Norwegian doctor prominently points to the EKG screen to explain something.  In a month&#039;s time of witnessing doctors in an ER and an ICU environment, I never once saw a doctor point to and explain monitor information to another doctor.  Information that was visual was simply available and understood by all. (To me this would be like a professional NASCAR driver pointing to his speedometer to explain to another professional NASCAR driver how fast he is going.) Between professionals, isn&#039;t vital information simply understood?

5. Why is there blood on the orderly&#039;s gloves, but none on the Norwegian doctor&#039;s gloves, nor on the Palestinian doctor&#039;s gloves who is actually touching the patient?

I observe and mention these five points because, in totality, they give me the impression that this footage is street theater rather than a professional ER environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently witnessed over a month&#8217;s worth of traumatic activity in an ER and a ICU facility, I was struck by the behavior of the two doctors in this latest Palestinian video about a child killed by an Israeli bomb while at play on a rooftop .  Perhaps doctors in Gaza do things differently than doctors at Yale/New Haven Hospital here in the US, but the following caught my eye:</p>
<p>1. :08 into one of the Youtube videos, what kind of card or paperwork could the Norwegian doctor be bothering to move or &#8220;straighten up&#8221; while the Palestinian doctor is furiously tickling the patient&#8217;s chest? In my experience, anything that wasn&#8217;t priority during a trauma situation was summarily tossed on the floor and dealt with later.</p>
<p>2. What are those clear IV fluids shown running into the patients left arm? Are any of them as vital as plasma? Is plasma usually run into the arm, or into a larger vein/artery?  My experience showed that prepping an IV line was a needle insertion process that took a couple of critical minutes.  Would there have been time to prepare an IV process for clear fluids before a CPR process was even concluded?</p>
<p>3. Sound and visuals indicate that the EKG monitoring system was on and functioning, however at :20 into one of the Youtube videos, the Norwegian doctor appears to then be applying some EKG stickers to the patient&#8217;s chest.  Is this consistent or out of sequence in regards to EKG procedure? </p>
<p>4. :16 into one of the Youtube videos, the Palestinian doctor, still applying the tickling method to the patient&#8217;s chest, appears to ask the Norwegian doctor a question, to which the Norwegian doctor prominently points to the EKG screen to explain something.  In a month&#8217;s time of witnessing doctors in an ER and an ICU environment, I never once saw a doctor point to and explain monitor information to another doctor.  Information that was visual was simply available and understood by all. (To me this would be like a professional NASCAR driver pointing to his speedometer to explain to another professional NASCAR driver how fast he is going.) Between professionals, isn&#8217;t vital information simply understood?</p>
<p>5. Why is there blood on the orderly&#8217;s gloves, but none on the Norwegian doctor&#8217;s gloves, nor on the Palestinian doctor&#8217;s gloves who is actually touching the patient?</p>
<p>I observe and mention these five points because, in totality, they give me the impression that this footage is street theater rather than a professional ER environment.</p>
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		<title>By: peacebunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>peacebunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will trust you Pete. The average is $3 Billion from 1998 to 2007 so I guess you agree that Israel is the largest blood sucking leeching foreign aid recipients in the world (sic)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will trust you Pete. The average is $3 Billion from 1998 to 2007 so I guess you agree that Israel is the largest blood sucking leeching foreign aid recipients in the world (sic)?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faline, as usual, you and your anti-Israel supporters have your facts all wrong. Or perhaps you just choose to lie.

&quot;The fact is from Nov. 1947 to May 1948 the Zionists were already on the offensive and had already attacked Arabs&quot;

The Civil War in Palestine from 1947-48 was started by the Arabs who were unhappy about the acceptance of the UN Partition Plan. Also, you forgot to mention the Arab pogroms against the Jews in Palestine in the 1920&#039;s and 1930&#039;s where many Jews were killed.

“In the months before Israel was declared, the Zionists had seized land beyond the proposed Jewish State”
 
Source??? And was the land really &quot;seized&quot; or legally bought?

“During the war 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country. The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”.

The Arabs left because they were encouraged to leave by the surrounding Arab countries or because they were fleeing a war which they had started. In any case, why didn&#039;t their Arab brothers in the 20+ Arab countries in the region not resettle them? Perhaps they didn&#039;t care about them and instead decided to use them as cannon fodder in their ongoing war with Israel?

“Israel is the largest blood sucking leeching foreign aid recipients in the world. It is not aid. It is extortion. $3 Billion annually last I checked”

Here&#039;s some info for you from the US Aid website:
US aid to Egypt totals $28 billion over three decades.
US aid to Jordan: Over $44 billion since 1952
US aid to Lebanon: $339 million last year alone.

Check it yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faline, as usual, you and your anti-Israel supporters have your facts all wrong. Or perhaps you just choose to lie.</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact is from Nov. 1947 to May 1948 the Zionists were already on the offensive and had already attacked Arabs&#8221;</p>
<p>The Civil War in Palestine from 1947-48 was started by the Arabs who were unhappy about the acceptance of the UN Partition Plan. Also, you forgot to mention the Arab pogroms against the Jews in Palestine in the 1920&#8217;s and 1930&#8217;s where many Jews were killed.</p>
<p>“In the months before Israel was declared, the Zionists had seized land beyond the proposed Jewish State”</p>
<p>Source??? And was the land really &#8220;seized&#8221; or legally bought?</p>
<p>“During the war 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country. The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict”.</p>
<p>The Arabs left because they were encouraged to leave by the surrounding Arab countries or because they were fleeing a war which they had started. In any case, why didn&#8217;t their Arab brothers in the 20+ Arab countries in the region not resettle them? Perhaps they didn&#8217;t care about them and instead decided to use them as cannon fodder in their ongoing war with Israel?</p>
<p>“Israel is the largest blood sucking leeching foreign aid recipients in the world. It is not aid. It is extortion. $3 Billion annually last I checked”</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some info for you from the US Aid website:<br />
US aid to Egypt totals $28 billion over three decades.<br />
US aid to Jordan: Over $44 billion since 1952<br />
US aid to Lebanon: $339 million last year alone.</p>
<p>Check it yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul - Indianapolis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul - Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Post 13.  Roland, the UN [read Useless Nations] defined the state of Israel and also a Palestinian state at the same time.  The Pals wouldn&#039;t accept it, but now they want the same UN to protect their sorry butts.  The Pals also voted in Hamas as their &#039;leaders&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Post 13.  Roland, the UN [read Useless Nations] defined the state of Israel and also a Palestinian state at the same time.  The Pals wouldn&#8217;t accept it, but now they want the same UN to protect their sorry butts.  The Pals also voted in Hamas as their &#8216;leaders&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalism is now the lowest of low professions.  Even lower than usedcar salesman, lower than politition, even lower than John Edwards and lawyers.  Journalism is now lower than slug slime.  If a out of work journalist came looking for work at my door, I would spit on him,her and call them traitors and slam the door on their foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism is now the lowest of low professions.  Even lower than usedcar salesman, lower than politition, even lower than John Edwards and lawyers.  Journalism is now lower than slug slime.  If a out of work journalist came looking for work at my door, I would spit on him,her and call them traitors and slam the door on their foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Unrequired Reading&#160;{8.1.09}</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unrequired Reading&#160;{8.1.09}</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The MSM, Gaza and Pajamas TV &#124; Roger L. Simon - The New Journalism: &quot;Who could blame the Israel government for having had enough of the propaganda wiles of the MSM? So that brings us to Pajamas TV. We have decided to help right this imbalance in our small way by emphasizing coverage from Israel as long as this crisis is going on. We have a live camera in Jerusalem and we are going to feature the following talent there, among others: Caroline Glick of the Jerusalem Post, our own Middle East Editor Allison Kaplan Sommer (a Tel Aviv resident), Richard Landes of Boston University and a part-time Jerusalem resident and Nitsana Leitner of the Israeli Law Center. We admit we are biased in favor of Israel, in favor of the side we view as the good guys in a moral struggle. So bear that in mind when you tune in, but tune in every day for our Gaza&#160;Update.&quot; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The MSM, Gaza and Pajamas TV | Roger L. Simon &#8211; The New Journalism: &quot;Who could blame the Israel government for having had enough of the propaganda wiles of the MSM? So that brings us to Pajamas TV. We have decided to help right this imbalance in our small way by emphasizing coverage from Israel as long as this crisis is going on. We have a live camera in Jerusalem and we are going to feature the following talent there, among others: Caroline Glick of the Jerusalem Post, our own Middle East Editor Allison Kaplan Sommer (a Tel Aviv resident), Richard Landes of Boston University and a part-time Jerusalem resident and Nitsana Leitner of the Israeli Law Center. We admit we are biased in favor of Israel, in favor of the side we view as the good guys in a moral struggle. So bear that in mind when you tune in, but tune in every day for our Gaza&nbsp;Update.&quot; [...]</p>
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