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1. Laura SF:

Of course, he will claim it’s a picture of the Israeli flag – note the dark bars above & below. But of course that’s bullsh*t – it so readily calls to mind Der Sturmer that a few streaks on the page aren’t sufficient to provide cover.

Mar 26, 2009 - 10:39 pm 2. heathermc:

the only explanation for the thought process that results in that cartoon is hate-filled insanity.

Rebecca West wrote a book called “A Train of Powder: 6 reports of the problem of guilt and punishment in Our time” on the Nuremburg trials.. While in Germany, Ms West met a German woman who, with her family, went to hear an ‘educational’ lecture by Julius Streicher. The speech was filled with obscenity, the woman said. She tried to leave the auditorium, but the exits were guarded by soldiers…

That cartoon is obscene. And yet, a major American newspaper has seen fit to publish it. We are looking at a very bleak future.

Mar 26, 2009 - 11:07 pm 3. suztours:

It also appeared in the New York Times (online edition)… NOT a surprise, but when the NYT was asked about it (by LOTS of people), here’s the response:

Thanks for your message about the Oliphant cartoon. We understand your
concerns. The cartoon was not and will not be published by The New York
Times. That cartoon appeared on the feed of an outside cartoon syndicate
that we link to from Nytimes.com. This episode is forcing us to review that
arrangement to avoid similar problems in the future.

Again, thank you.

Tom Kuntz
The New York Times
Week in Review, 2d floor
620 Eighth Avenue
New York, NY 10018

Even so, it appeared under the auspices of the New York Times and because Oliphant is syndicated and it’s been published in several places online, it will be spread far & wide. We already know that the majority of the world hate the Jews… for whatever reason… but this sort of vulgar depiction, reminding us of the ugliness of the German press before and during the Sho’ah, MUST stop.

Mar 26, 2009 - 11:43 pm 4. Pops in Vienna:

OK Roger,

It’s January 1933. I suggest you begin making plans to escape the United States as soons as possible.

Good luck!

Pops

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:51 am 5. Minerva:

Let’s see how bold he will hold his pen when Obama declines in the polls.

Mar 27, 2009 - 4:42 am 6. David Levavi:

Why so sensitive Roger? You Hebes couldn’t understand why muslims could get so exercised about cartoons and here you are bitching and moaning over a silly drawing in a newspaper.

I wonder what the response would be to a cartoon of a cross as a hammer killing poor Iraquis. (Afghan? Granadans? Nicraguans?)

Mar 27, 2009 - 5:57 am 7. qwfwq:

Hebes? You dirty fascist mother.

Mar 27, 2009 - 6:04 am 8. HardHeadedWoman:

Thirty years ago I would never have believed that this sort of thing or that the casual, trendy anti-semitism of Europe (and now the American left) could possibly ever happen again on this Earth. Not after the Holocaust. It seems that any horror of the attempted extermination of Jews was simply a very thin veneer, and false, covering a never ending ugly racism.

Mar 27, 2009 - 6:07 am 9. Roy Lofquist:

Roger,

The cartoon doesn’t have his trademark little penguin which I always thought meant that he acknowledged being a little outrageous. I don’t have the time, nor frankly the desire, to review his work to see if the omission has occurred before.

Roy

Mar 27, 2009 - 6:24 am 10. glenn:

Some of my friends don’t understand why I say that allowing the destruction of Israel and a repeat of the European attempt to exterminate the Jews will be the end of Western civilization. But that’s the facts, folks. And notice that I said European, the Holocaust was, in spite of many acts of individual heroism by ordinary citizens, a societial act. Most particularly by the French.

Mar 27, 2009 - 6:45 am 11. Cynic:

#5

The WaPo refused to publish the Mohammad cartoons!

Mar 27, 2009 - 7:03 am 12. Larry J:

Why so sensitive Roger? You Hebes couldn’t understand why muslims could get so exercised about cartoons and here you are bitching and moaning over a silly drawing in a newspaper.

I have not heard any Jews demanding Oliphant’s murder. Have you?

Mar 27, 2009 - 7:47 am 13. Stephen:

@David L (#6)

I can’t quite decide whether your comment is satire gone horribly awry, or the usual “performance art” of a troll that may well have set a new standard for stupidity. Fortunately, I’ll spend no more than another sip or two of my morning coffee pondering this.

Mar 27, 2009 - 8:31 am 14. Mike_K:

While the cartoon, which I also posted comments about on my blog, is offensive, it raises once again the question of why Jews are so loyal to the left. Jonah Goldberg’s book should have settled the issue of the origins of fascism. Jews will be safe here longer than any other place in the world but this may be the last place they are safe. Sadly, England used to hold that distinction but those days seem to be going away.

Mar 27, 2009 - 8:57 am 15. shrubnose:

I find this cartoon offensive. I have enjoyed Mr Oliphant’s cartoons in the past, now I will look at them in a different light. That is not to say I agree with what Israel has done and is doing to the innocent civilian population of Gaza who were the majority of the dead and wounded in Israel’s recent attack on the Gaza Strip. If I was drawing a cartoon commenting on what Israel did to the innocent civilian population of Gaza, I would have used different symbols. A set of scales, showing the vast difference between the few Israeli casualties and over a thousand dead ( and many more wounded ) in Gaza ( mostly innocent civilians ) would have made the point without being offensive. Israel’s use of White Phosphorus munitions in Gaza in areas where large numbers of civilian non-combatants were present was probably a war crime. I believe they did this to terrorize the people in Gaza ( Other munitions could have been used for cloaking effect , etc.) I do not think we have heard the last word on this. The Jewish people suffered more than any people should ever suffer in the Holocaust. But this does not give them the right to do what they have done and are doing to the Palestinians whose land they have stolen ! The USA and Israel are on one side of this – the rest of the world is on the other side. Is it possible the USA is on the wrong side of this ? Think about it !

Mar 27, 2009 - 10:35 am 16. John K.:

An absolutely disgusting cartoon. Will the “Reverend” Al Sharpton be calling for the boycott of the Washington Post over this? I highly doubt it. He probably agrees with its depravity.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:00 am 17. Filochard:

As Goebels said the bigger th e lie (and the more repeated ?)the better chances that it will stick.
Nevermind Humanity’s high technical achievements, this is the age of Confusion: Jews, Hamas-Nazis all the same, so better look at the sports section of the paper….

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:00 am 18. K T Cat:

What an odd fellow this Oliphant is. And what a telling thing it is to see his work published in the WaPo as it circles the drain along with the rest of the MSM.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:07 am 19. kynna:

Shrubnose — you are ill informed as to what happened in Gaza. That canard has been debunked. Betcha still call Jenin a massacre, too. The left is obsessively ignorant as some above posters (and many to follow, no doubt) exemplify.

This cartoon is appalling. That it simply portrays the left’s viewpoint is horrifying. The WaPo has the right to run it as they had the right to run the Mohammed cartoons. They are advertising their beliefs by their choices.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:08 am 20. Frank Wilson:

A few years ago, Roger, when I was still book editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer, you and I exchanged emails about this sort of thing, which we had grown up thinking would never happen again. It was starting to happen again then. It has only become worse. And it is about time serious steps were taken to counter it.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:12 am 21. KenB:

“Why so sensitive Roger? You Hebes couldn’t understand why muslims could get so exercised about cartoons and here you are bitching and moaning over a silly drawing in a newspaper.”

Criticizing the ideas expressed in a cartoon is far different from threatening the physical well-being of the cartoonist. There’s no hope for rational discourse with someone who can’t immediately see that difference.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:17 am 22. gk1:

Maybe the trade mark little penguin on Oliphant’s work should be wearing a Hitler moustache from here on out?

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:17 am 23. Terry Johnson:

“innocent civilian population of Gaza ”

Hmmm. Define civilian…is a Hamas operative in street clothes a civilian ? BTW is this the same population who voted for the genocidal terrorists of Hamas ?

“( mostly innocent civilians )”

They’re only “mostly innocent civilians” according to Hamas and the anti-semites at the UN. The IDF believes that over 700 of the dead were Hamas terrorists.

“was probably a war crime.”

According to who ? Again you’re being taken in by Hamas and their apologists at the UN. Try expanding your news sources.

“whose land they have stolen !”

Brush up your history ? The Gaza Strip is run by the so-called Palestinians…the Israelis have NOT stolen it. Think about it !!

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:25 am 24. Glen Wishard:

This is not the first time Oliphant has equated Israel with Nazi Germany. He’s been doing it for decades.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:26 am 25. Assistant Village Idiot:

kynna, thank you for beating me to the punch. Shrubnose, please research your assertions.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:26 am 26. Max Weiss:

David Levavi, why do you think you are clever?

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:28 am 27. Random Numbers:

What I find fascinating is the fact that many papers will print this anti-Semitic blood libel, while refusing to print the Mohammad cartoons even in a story about them. Maybe Jews need to start beheading people, blowing up buildings, and assassinating newspaper editors to get their “respect” as a “peaceful” people.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:35 am 28. leishman:

Yes, it’s a pretty ugly cartoon. It might have been more realistic had the mother and child been used as shields with Omar and Achmed with their rocket launchers, hiding behind them, similar to the cartoon with the Israeli soldier and Mahmoud aiming at each other from opposite sides of the baby carriages. (I’m still trying to figure out American Jewry’s love affair with the modern Left.)

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:38 am 29. lucklucky:

shrubnose

“innocent civilian population of Gaza who were the majority of the dead and wounded in Israel’s recent attack on the Gaza Strip”

What is your trustfull source for this? Numbers by Hamas?

” showing the vast difference between the few Israeli casualties and over a thousand dead ( and many more wounded ) in Gaza”

Lets suppose the first afirmation was correct.
It didn’t occured to you that is enginnered by Palestinian Leadership? It is very easy for israel not hit civilians: The Palestinian make that separation easely seen. That is one of principal reasons for Geneva Conventions.
So why you rate the responsabilities of Israel towards Palestinians above Palestinians themselves, that btw are their legitimate representatives?

About the cartoons. Many on the left are poseurs, they pretend one thing but when something ticks their guts they have basics instincts at hand with a lot of moral superiority to camouflage that. Not all leftists are that way but many are.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:39 am 30. OSweet:

If the Jews would just allow themselves to be destroyed and wiped out they woudn’t be hated so much.

Mar 27, 2009 - 11:47 am 31. Self-hating Boomer:

If the Jews would just allow themselves to be destroyed and wiped out they wouldn’t be hated so much.

Don’t bank on it.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:02 pm 32. Jeff Weimer:

#6:

You racist troll. You do realize that Muslims RIOTED the world over – killing people (mostly each other). Roger here admitted to being sad about this cartoon. Of course, as has been pointed out previously (#11), the WaPo didn’t publish the Muhammad cartoons – even though they hold more truth in their “1000 words” than Oliphant’s screed. Or maybe not – it illuminates his twisted view of a people and country who merely want to be, and have succeeded time and again against the best and worst it’s neighbors can give it.

The truth (which you seem to ignore) about the Muhammad cartoons is not that it maligns Islam itself, but that they lay bare the means by which those who wish to use it for their ends.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:03 pm 33. Bill in NC:

@15 Shrub. I will be on Isreal’s side, and I have thought about it a great deal. You, therefore, are on the side with, among others, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, Soviet Russia, Red China, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Somalia and all ther rest of the worlds thugs, murderers and tyrants. Congratulations.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:04 pm 34. Becky:

“The WaPo refused to publish the Mohammad cartoons!” and “I have not heard any Jews demanding Oliphant’s murder. Have you?”

Gosh, I wonder why the “brave” WaPo editors decided to run this one and not the Mohammed cartoon. Hmmmm… why could that be??

I know this needs to be discussed but I hate to see him getting the publicity. I’m sure he’s loving it.

On the bright side, I just read an article he wrote for a local free press where he talked about how few editorial cartoonists remain and how, in his opinion, none of them are as good as he is. Agree with comment above #18 “what a telling thing it is to see his work published in the WaPo as it circles the drain along with the rest of the MSM.”

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:04 pm 35. pst314:

“use of White Phosphorus munitions…was probably a war crime”

Um, those were smoke shells, not incendiaries. Not a war crime. You should stop parroting enemy propaganda.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:06 pm 36. kbdabear:

I’ll believe it’s anti-Zionism when they spout “dirty Israelis”. They don’t though, do they

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:07 pm 37. James Hudnall:

The problem isn’t when narrow minded bigots make cartoons like this. The problem is when the state sanctions it and encourages it. We don’t have that happening in the US quite yet, though the Obama Administration seems to be starting to favor Palestine over Israel.

Europe is another story.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:22 pm 38. brian:

James @ 37 – let’s not forget that there is talk of a “media bailout”. Which would make the New York Times effectively into Pravda.

I have a subscription to one of the cartoon syndicate sites, and I have a bunch of the editorial cartoons emailed to me each morning. This was in there on Tuesday or Wednesday. I just stopped and stared at it.

I still can’t believe that I am seeing ancient blood libels represented in American media.

Here’s my advice to all Jews worldwide – arm yourselves. “Never again” is going to happen. Again.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:31 pm 39. Dotar Sojat:

The Gazan population, oncs again never missing an opportunity to miss ans opportunity, supported Hamas and other violent anti-Israeli, anti-Jew factions after the Israelis withdrew. They supported the indiscriminate rocket and mortar attacks over the border into Israel. They teach virulent hatred of the Jewish people and the extermination of Israel in their schools. They seem to have made their bed.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:33 pm 40. Benson:

The cartoon is not silly — it is a vile lie. It expresses a viewpoint that is quite common among “progressives.”

Jews desperately need the protection afforded by robust Enlightenment values, and those values are under attack by neo-Marxist and anti-Western political factions. Defending the West means defending Israel, so countering Liberty means making common cause with Islamic despotism to one degree or another (example: Galloway in Britain). That implies opposing the Jewish state and accusing it of exerting undue influence over US foreign policy (Mearsheimer and Walt).

The old Jew-hatred is still with us. Nazis are Nazis, though today they call themselves “progressives.”

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:38 pm 41. kcutts:

America’s Jews continued love affair with the left is baffling beyond any hope of comprehension.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:39 pm 42. The Sanity Inspector:

I’ve been a fan of Oliphant’s for a long time. If you can find books of his cartoons from the late 60s / early 70s, you’ll see that his Israel cartoons usually featured doughty kibbutniks squaring off against sinister, ferret-faced arabs. He started turning against Israel along with the rest of liberals about the time of the early 80s Lebanon war. Sad to see him come to this pass.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:50 pm 43. CJ:

Although Oliphant is 75 years old, he has never developed any real core convictions. He simply blows with the wind, goes with the flow. Right now in his social and business circle, this is the flow.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:58 pm 44. David Levavi:

Shrubnose:

…the Palestinians whose land they have stolen…

Reminds me of a day in the Eighties when my wife and I drove into Gaza with my cousin for lunch at a beachfront restaurant.

Tensions were high. There were Israeli soldiers in full gear silhouetted on every rooftop. We were the only customers and the Arab proprietor looked shocked to see us.

After lunch we drove into the local UN refugee camp to visit my cousin’s construction foreman, out of work because of the latest terrorist outrage.

The women mobbed my wife, excitedly examining her eyeglasses and her jewelery like children and they disappeared along with her into the women’s quarters.

My cousin and I joined his foreman for tea with the men. The room we were in was clean but almost devoid of furniture. Arab men filtered in gradually, arriving individually, in pairs and in clusters. They found places against the wall and sat on the floor. Before long were were twenty to thirty people sitting on the floor and drinking sweet tea with cardeman.

My parents spoke Arabic but I only speak Hebrew so my cousin had to translate. I was full of questions and although there was frequent hesitation. I felt that most of my questions were answered freely.

Nobody made any bones about the fact that they were all on the dole and wished they could be at their jobs in Israel working.

When I asked how long each of them had lived in the refugee camp I got a variety of answer. So I asked where everybody’s father lived. The question was followed by long silence I had inadvertently touched on a sensitive issue. Most of their fathers or grandfathers had come from elsewhere, mainly Egypt.

My cousin good humoredly pressed them for an answer one by one. Then determined who’s father had arrived in British Palestine earliest. Turned out, my family who lived in Jerusalem under the Turks, arrived in Palestine long before any of theirs.

For this American Jew, the afternoon it was an unexpected education. I thought I would share it with you, Shrubnose. Prevent you from spending the rest of your life as a useful idiot.

An additional note to to armchair Middle East experts blindered by MSM: The “refugee” camp in Gaza had the reputation of being the worst of the UN sponsored facilities. Conditions in many, many slums south of our border right here on this continent are far worse. The slums I toured in Santo Domingo were worse. In Haiti, far, far worse. In Haiti I saw children with their bellies popped and their hair turning red from malnutrition. No such horror is encountered in “Palestine.”

Disproportionate sympathy for The famous “Plight of the Palestinians” is rooted in Jew-hatred.

Mar 27, 2009 - 12:59 pm 45. jaafar:

This Oliphant cartoon is truly a horrifying thing. Not only is it evil in itself, but it points to something much larger, which I have been aware of for some years now… but have never dared put into words. OK, I’ll try.

The spoiled children of the Boomer Generation — who wanted Socialism and Communism to reign in America — realized fairly quickly that Americans voted against anything with the label “Socialist.”

So they retreated, and re-grouped. They gradually took over two important American institutions: the universities and the press.

When they finally got the Presidential candidate they wanted, they pulled out all the stops for him. When their candidate won, his media supporters provided “helpful” magazine covers, such as “We are all Socialists now.”

But none of us actually voted for Socialism!!

I don’t know. Did you vote for Socialism?

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:02 pm 46. shrubnose:

AT 35, pst314 said: “Um, those were smoke shells, not incendiaries.” Go to Human Rights Watch and check out their 71 page report, “Rain of Fire, Israels Unlawful use of White Phosphorus in Gaza” pst314 probably does not understand that White Phosphorus munitions are ALWAYS incendiaries. This is because when exposed to air, Phosphorus ignites spontaneously. Anyone with a basic knowledge of chemistry should know this . Other munitions are available to be used for cloaking ( smoke). I know what I am talking about. I served 6 years in the US Army Ordnance Corps ( 1 year in Vietnam). I
was trained in, taught and used Chemical/Biological/ Warfare. And I quess I will go to Hell for that, but it seemed like the right thing to do at the time. As I am sure the Israeli’s will say. I will say again, Israels use of White Phosphorus munitions in densely populated areas was probably a war crime. This was most likely done to terrorize the civilian population. Sad, but true ! Been there, done that. They did a bad thing. But SOMEONE told them to do it. THAT person should be brought to justice !

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:18 pm 47. MarkJ:

I didn’t see the little penguin in the corner, but it’s just as well. If Idiot Oliphant had put it in there, the penguin probably would have had a “Jewish nose” and sieg-heiling while saying “Kauft nicht bei Juden!”

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:29 pm 48. jaafar:

Well, shrubnose, I just might not go to Human Rights Watch and read their blablabla because it has been completely and utterly clear to me for my entire lifetime where human rights are respected (Israel) and where they are not (Palestine and the rest of the Arab world.)

Actually, this was not clear during my Entire Lifetime. The realization dawned on me with the Black September massacres of totally innocent Israeli athletes. I was in Algiers at the time, and was shocked to see that “all” the Algerians thought this was a great thing.

Since then, things have only become worse. Especially people like you, who SEIZE on one little technical topic to avoid dealing with the whole issue of freedom versus tyranny.

Yes, that’s what I said: “freedom versus tyranny.”

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:35 pm 49. Patrick:

Roger, this reminds me of an evaluation of Germany I once read. Some wag said “If every adult Jewish male in Bismark’s Germany had a Mauser rifle, a thousand rounds of ammunition, and the will to use them, Adolf Hitler would be a footnote in the history of the Wiemar Republic.” I feel truer words were never spoken.

Please consider getting some gun training. If it works out for you, then take your wife and child. If it works out for them, consider sponsering other members of the Chosen people for the same. If you get any spare dough in the future, maybe buy a gun as a gift for someone who right now might not consider it. The reason the Washington Post and others would not print those Mohammed cartoons is fear. I wouldn’t mind the Washington Post fearing Jews. I think it would be healthy for both parties.

Mar 27, 2009 - 1:44 pm 50. Ed Driscoll » Oh, That Liberal Fascism:

[...] Roger L. Simon: Oliphant does us a favor. [...]

Mar 27, 2009 - 2:22 pm 51. Still Bill:

Roger: As a Christian, I see leftists for what they are: Jew hating, Christian hating, America hating cockroaches (I’m sorry if I insulted the cockroaches of this world because I have more respect for cockroaches than I do for wanna-be communists). This cartoonist clown fits in perfectly with the clown desecrating the White House. I can understand why African-Americans are attracted to the Democrat Party: They have been patted on the head for so many years by Democrat Party shills, they now regard themselves as pets. But Jews, I’m still trying to figure you out. Is it the Stockholm syndrome?

Mar 27, 2009 - 2:41 pm 52. Roger L Simon:

“Is it the Stockholm syndrome?” Well, partly, Still Bill. There are a number of factors. I understand Norman Podhoretz is writing a book on this subject, which I imagine will be interesting. Of course there are as many different kinds of Jews as there are different kinds of Christians, but one answer may be of interest to you. Jews, as you know, have been discriminated against for centuries. For that reason, socialism and communism, which held out a post-religious world with all equal, would have special appeal to them. Of course, that did not work. Still, the emotion lingers. (There are many other reasons, but that’s one for you.)

Mar 27, 2009 - 2:49 pm 53. barb:

How can you still be a refugee 60+ years later? My parents came from Cuba in 1959 and I somehow miraculously avoided growing up in a tent at the Krome detention center. Thank goodness there was no UN to “help” them when they arrived or we’d have been completely screwed. You could go back a thousand years to figure out who took what from who, but at some point, it’s NOW, and you can’t have generations growing up as “refugees”. The Palestinian “crisis” exists for 2 reasons: 1) because it gives the UN something to do and 2)because other Arab countries don’t like Palestinians. Think of Palestinians as Mexicans and Egypt as California; it’s just racism with a convenient religious twist, as anyone familiar with Arab hierarchy can attest.

Mar 27, 2009 - 3:00 pm 54. Glen Howard:

A Jewish “friend” of mine, raised in an extremely leftwing Jewish home, has been brainwashed into believing that Jew-hatred only exists amongst American Christian right wingers. He is 40 years of age but can say things like “The muslims don’t hate us the way that Christians do in the USA.” He has never visited the deep South of the US but constantly talks of it as though the KKK were daily dragging Jews from their homes and murdering them. He refuses to believe anything I tell him about the Koran’s hatred for the Jewish race and thinks the Arabs merely want to live in peace with their Jewish neighbors and it’s the Israelis who are the problem. Sadly, I don’t think his blinkered view of the world will ever change.

Mar 27, 2009 - 3:16 pm 55. Listen up:

Muslims world wide teach hate of Jews to their children. Not only do they teach this at home but in their schools and TV cartoons. I know this for a fact because my niece is half Arab, I saw her school books when she was a child. The books instructed children how to do damage to Jews and how Jews are responsible for all the problems in the world. The books were filled with cartoon lessons of hate for Jews and Israel. I saw these books while she was living in a “moderate” Arab nation twenty years ago. It has only worsened since then. Obama will add to the Jewish burden. I would like a Jew to tell me why they support Obama and his leftist crowd.

Mar 27, 2009 - 3:29 pm 56. Self-hating Boomer:

It’s not even clever. If you’re going to be vile, don’t be banal at the same time. This is the sign of someone well past his expiration date.

Mar 27, 2009 - 3:36 pm 57. A Recovery Party? Random Chills, Thrills & Myths | The Anchoress:

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Mar 27, 2009 - 4:09 pm 58. IcePilot:

This should be mandatory reading for all high school seniors:

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict Over Palestine, written by Joan Peters in 1984.

Peters started research for the book with a lot of sympathy for the Palestinians.

Then she learned the truth.

Mar 27, 2009 - 5:14 pm 59. glenn:

So, not advocating secondary boycotts or anything but if the business that advertise in the WaPo got some e-mails complaining about this POS cartoon maybe something good will happen. Money talks. And so should people who have it.

Mar 27, 2009 - 5:28 pm 60. Xanthippe:

The link to the Washington Post cartoon no longer works.

I went to the WaPo to see it in their cartoon section, and can’t get to it.

Mar 27, 2009 - 6:16 pm 61. Stephen:

Roger,

Whether ushered in through the ascendancy of communism, socialism, or some other social system, that a post-religious world holds out the prospect of salvation – if I may use that word – for some Jews, I find remarkable. I’ve not thought of it in quite that way. I have to ask a naive question: Assuming that these Jews lived to see their hopes realized, in a world without some believing Jews – a true post-religious world – what would it mean to be Jewish? In other words, what is it that these Jews truly desire?

Mar 27, 2009 - 9:35 pm 62. Roger Godby:

Very “progressive” art. Perhaps Mr. Oliphant can be sent to Kenya to document politics there. Maybe a poacher will make a mistake, for the Greater Good™.

Mar 27, 2009 - 9:41 pm 63. Mike2:

54. Glen Howard:

Your Jewish friend’s anti Israeli atitudes might change if he went and lived in Sderot for a while and experienced the rockets that Hamas is STILL firing.

Mar 28, 2009 - 1:50 am 64. Cynic:

#61

In other words, what is it that these Jews truly desire?

To not be considered Jews.
To not be confronted with their roots.
To not have Israel remind them everyday of the uncertainty in their lives.

Mar 28, 2009 - 9:39 am 65. LawhawkSF:

Maybe as a gentile of German descent, I can look at this somewhat differently from the more reasonable author and links. That cartoon is anti-semitic by every definition I can think of except the “purist” definition of it meaning “semitic peoples.” Sure it’s anti-Israel. But it’s also hateful anti-semitic propagandistic trash. Put more simply, Oliphant is expressing Jew-hatred. An occasional slap or two at the jihadis doesn’t change that fact. Anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic. Those are distinctions without a difference. It’s not just simplistic, it’s dangerously simplistic.

Mar 28, 2009 - 12:32 pm 66. cfbleachers:

I got caught up in the spam filter…maybe it was for the best…I was pretty upset by the cartoon.

Mar 28, 2009 - 5:55 pm 67. Hindy Alster:

How apt that the Durban conference is beginning on April 20th, Hitler’s birthday, they couldn’t have picked a better day. What I find scary about Oliphant’s cartoon, is that while you see this kind of thing in the Arab press all the time,seeing it in western newspapers is something else. Outrage, indignation and all the rest will not help. As it says in the Hagadah, “in every generation they rise against us, but with g-d’s help we perservere” I’m tired of getting upset, if I have a chance I’ll use those newspapers to wash windows.

Mar 28, 2009 - 6:52 pm 68. JSF:

On my Blog, I’ve noted many, many times that the Left (especially the Dean democrats) accept any ally as long they hated Bush. On Kos, they allow anti-Israel writers post there.

Unlike the Right, where we had WFB kick out anti-semites as allies, the Left accepy anyone as long they Hate. They can hate Bush, Rush, palin, etc. et. al.

I Left the Left in 1992 because I saw this hate begin to rise.

When will the Left find their own WFB? Trust me, it ain’t Ezra Klein.

Mar 28, 2009 - 7:04 pm 69. David Levavi:

“There shall come forth a star out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel” (Nu 24:17)

King David took up the six pointed star as his royal symbol in keeping with the (even then) ancient prophecy of the great Gentile prophet Balaam. It is accepted Christian belief that this prophecy foretells the coming of Christ. In Christian teaching, the “star out of Jacob” is the star that guided the Magi.

Descent from the House of David is fundamental to the legitimacy of Jesus. Proving Christ’s descent from David is the point of the genealogy that opens the Gospel of Matthew. Absent Davidic lineage, Jesus could not be the Messiah (anointed) ), legitimate King of the Jews.

Most Christians and Jews won’t recognize it but an insult to the star of David is an insult to the star of Bethlehem. Oliphant insults both Christians and Jews.

Mar 28, 2009 - 9:46 pm 70. Jack Jolis:

The real question before the house is: will American Jews STILL, in the face of the manifest and growing anti-semitism of the American Left, continue to perversely and seemingly insanely vote 70%+ for Democrats? (As long as they do, it makes defending them, by non-Jews like me, all the more difficult. Not impossible, mind you, but it’s nevertheless difficult to defend people who keep embracing their attackers.)

Mar 29, 2009 - 6:56 am 71. Fred2:

David Levavi:

The cartoon hasn’t resulted in the Jews burning down an embassy or threatening anybody with death. Can you see the difference now?

Mar 30, 2009 - 12:19 pm 72. Kim Barrett:

Obama’s electoral success has brought many creepy crawlers out from under the rocks where they generally hide from the light.When he goes in less than four years, the refuse like Oliphant and the Washington Post will disappear with him. In fact, the Post will likely close much earlier. Good riddance too

Mar 30, 2009 - 1:14 pm 73. David Levavi:

Fred2: Not yet but its slowly sinking in. Like there’s reality and then there’s the MSM reflection thereof. Or something like that. It takes these things time to seat in my mind. I’m a bit slow you see…

Apr 1, 2009 - 6:59 am 74. Yael:

Waiting to see if/how Oliphant will address the matter of the Arab Muslim Monster who today in Bat Ayin (near Jew-rusalem) hacked a 13-year-old boy to death with an axe and wounded a 7-yr-old, who is at this moment undergoing surgery to repair his broken skull.

Apr 2, 2009 - 7:57 am 75. Elgreg:

from the point of view from the other side of the sea, i think that if Le Monde or le Figaro or Libération published this sort of cartoon, the newspaper will have some trouble…… Like in the US, the “desinformation” of what have been done there during this war against terrorists in Europe and particulary in France is amazing!!!! Hopefully there some independent news online that give you the thruh. If US can not save us who will do it…….

Apr 3, 2009 - 12:41 pm

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