193 Comments

1. Jim:

*snark*
The one with the B carved in her forehead?

Apr 8, 2009 - 12:46 am 2. william Blake:

I don’t think these people know what they are in for.

Apr 8, 2009 - 5:09 am 3. Tea Party Advice « The Original William Blake’s Blog:

[...] “So my recommendation to Tea Party demonstrators as a former leftie is to tear a leaf from my …Cui bono, who profits, here from what they are saying or doing? Draw your conclusions (carefully!) and then act accordingly and completely within the law.” Published in: [...]

Apr 8, 2009 - 5:14 am 4. Larry J:

No, all you have to do is show a big picture of Rush Limbaugh. If they react like a vampire to sunlight, you’re found your infiltrator.

Apr 8, 2009 - 5:54 am 5. David Thomson:

“The same is true of ACORN. I would say to them welcome.”

Nope, that should not be our attitude. ACORN is a government funded group. It is not comprised of private citizens. In many respects, ACORN members are Barack Obama’s storm troopers. We must not be fearful of criticizing these thugs out of fear of being branded racists. They have no legal right to participate such political activities as per se ACORN members.

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:57 am 6. kcom:

I am reminded of various events during last year’s campaigns where it turned out that “random” concerned citizens asking questions at certain debates or campaign events were, in actuality, for want of a better word, “plants”. They either worked for (or were often leaders of) campaign organizations or activist groups that had a specific stake in one campaign or the other. This was often with the TV networks’ collusion. A little creative googling the next day brought out the whole story and exposed the chicanery for what it was.

I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea to take pictures of anyone causing trouble and, if possible, get their names. Google could be a very good friend in that situation. If they were exposed as ACORN plants it would be helpful. Of course, to a certain degree, it will be too little to late if the networks cover them and call them Tea Party protesters and the truth as to their true motives only comes out the next day (and is ignored by the general media). But it can’t hurt.

As Roger says, anyone who shows up as a citizen reporter, honest and upfront, whether from the Huffington Post or somewhere else has every right to exercise their Constitutional rights. But no one has the right to speak for a movement they don’t really belong to.

Apr 8, 2009 - 7:55 am 7. tim maguire:

Judging by the liberals who come on conservative blogs posing as conservatives, they should be pretty easy to spot. Having not a clue about how conservatives think or believe and why, their rants typically sound as authentic as language run through translation software.

Apr 8, 2009 - 10:31 am 8. MAS1916:

Conservative participants need to get in front of the cameras. The only way ACORN and others can impact the movement is to lie about it and make the movement look silly. They will try to do this by influencing coverage.

Main stream media doesn’t want to cover this story to begin with, so we’ll have to compete. Get your thoughts and comments together, seek out the journalists (they hate to work anyway) and talk to them before the idiot lefties do.

Apr 8, 2009 - 10:42 am 9. suedenim:

As with most things, I believe we can look to Spock for guidance. As he put it (when explaining how it was easy for him to spot Kirk et al’s evil duplicates from the Mirror Universe):

“It was far easier for you as civilized men to behave like barbarians than it was for them as barbarians to behave like civilized men.”

Apr 8, 2009 - 11:33 am 10. EdSki:

I’m reminded of the scene from the Grapes of Wrath, where the locals try to infiltrate the dance at the migrant camp in order to discredit them, and get the camp closed down. If I remember correctly, all it took was a few very observant farmers (Henry Fonda) to pick out the hoodlums and very quietly and quickly, move them some where else. I seem to remember something about using fists on stomachs so they’d leave no marks.

Not that I’m suggesting any violence, but it was an uplifting scene watching the farmers handle their own issues, take care of business, and save the day.

Apr 8, 2009 - 12:35 pm 11. Instapundit » Blog Archive » ROGER SIMON: Tea Party role reversal: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left….:

[...] ROGER SIMON: Tea Party role reversal: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left. [...]

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:21 pm 12. thenakedemperor:

It shouldn’t be too difficult. It’s easy for a civilized man to act the barbarian, while a barbarian has no knowledge of how to act civilized.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:26 pm 13. Dave in Texas:

we’re already covering this on TCOT, all over the twitterverse.. be polite, act legally, seek out the stuff that doesn’t make SENSE… we KNOW that conservatives protesting for fiscal responsibility, for ethics and morals and God and country, aren’t going to have “KILL OBAMA” signs and aren’t going to be destructive and so forth.. but they can be subtle and still subvert the whole thing, particularly with a compliant/eager media waiting for that perfect clip to play a million times that will stain the reputations of the folks who go to these events.

BE CAREFUL. No fighting. No cursing. Be polite. If you see a sign, or hear a person, suggesting violence or some other nonconservative method of response to a problem, it ISN”T US.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:31 pm 14. DeliLama:

Bring extra signs that say “BEWARE OF LEFTISTS PRETENDING TO BE EXTREME RIGHT-WINGERS” with a movable arrow (velcro, whatever). Then watch for this type of person and follow them around with the warning sign in clear view of any cameras.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:32 pm 15. Contumacious:

Make everyone pay for something (a copy of the Constitution, etc.) with their own money.

You know how much the left HATES to reach into their own pockets.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:38 pm 16. Kevin:

Things not to bring April 15:

Confederate flag
Swastikas
White sheets with holes cut in them

If you see these, feel free to pummel them.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:42 pm 17. Conservadick:

And don’t be afraid to photograph disruptive lefties behaving badly and post them to the web. The whole internet troll approach falls apart when anonymity is stripped away.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:44 pm 18. Neil:

The return of “Fake But Accurate”!

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:52 pm 19. Nahanni:

If a moonbat does show up just do what that one Tea Party did to the MSM reporter who only wanted to interview the one Obamaworshiping counterprotester.

Surround them, point at the person and start chanting “Leftist fraud”, ACORN nutjob”, “SHAME!” or whatever works to make it impossible for the MSM to interview them and to use any video. It also would help if some folks brought rolled up signs that said “Leftist fraud” or “ACORN nutjob” to roll out and use right next to that person so the MSM can not use any silent video of them for VOC’s, either.

When they figure out that they are not going to get their desired effect of trying to make the Tea party look like a Klan rally and try to leave about 10-15 people should follow them to “escort” them away-keep chanting at them. Once they pass the police let them go on their way otherwise they might start screeching that they are being stalked or some other BS.

If you go to a Tea Party bring a camera, if some moonbat gets loose and starts screeching make sure you record it and post it on youtube plus send it to places like PJTV just in case youtube deletes it for “content” reasons because we all know how youtube is when it comes to anything that might be pro American or of a “conservative” nature.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:56 pm 20. RebeccaH:

My advice for Tea Party protestors is to quickly identify these “extreme” protestors, and follow them around, asking loud and repetitive questions: Do you work for ACORN? What group are you representing? Who sent you here?” The quickest way to discredit purveyors of the race card is to challenge their racism, and that goes for any political orientation, such as socialism or out-and-out Marxism.

The so-called MSM don’t want to cover Tea Party demonstrations, but they will if they sense blood in the water. Just make sure the blood belongs to the left-leaning provocateurs, and not the legitimate citizens who see their government as massively failing us.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:56 pm 21. Towering Barbarian:

To #10 Edski,
But the problem with that is that it plays into their hands by allowing them to cry that they have been set upon by violent hooligans and then cast the entire Tea Party movement in that light. They might go for that anyway given that they’ve Old Media in their hip pocket but it’s not a good plan to give them genuine material to work with. I’m sure the Grapes of Wrath scene was a good one but reliance upon Hollywood Magic in real life is sometimes a bad call.

To #7 Tim Miguire,
Actually, I would consider this the Lois Lane Dilemma. The trick is not to spot such gentry but rather to then find ways to expose and discredit them in the eyes of neutral onlookers. Make who is being underhanded glaringly obvious and you’ve won a significant part of the battle.

To #6 Kcom,
Good thinking! To this I would add 1 suggestion: Save those pictures and create a dossier so that they can be spotted at future demonstrations before they even begin. The worth of a good archive in this regard cannot be overestimated. Mind you, remembering to use an archive is sometimes trickier than compiling it and maintaining it but that’s another matter entirely. @_@

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:57 pm 22. Terrye:

The strange thing is on one hand they want to treat the Tea Party people as if they are of no import, on the other they send spies and plants. Why? What are they worried about?

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:58 pm 23. RebeccaH:

And by “blood”, I am speaking figuratively, for all you “reality-based” lefties out there looking for a hook.

Apr 8, 2009 - 1:59 pm 24. Pink Pig:

I’d guess that ACORN infiltrators will bring along their own media entourage, too. You can always look to see who the media is interviewing. A background chant of “Mole, mole…” wouldn’t hurt. It shouldn’t be difficult, since the only MSM types likely to show up will be in the entourage of some plant.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:01 pm 25. Max:

The fakes are the ones who arrive with the media.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:04 pm 26. Sissy Willis:

You write with the special insight of one who’s been mugged by reality and lived to tell the tale. Thanks for the warning and advice.

I tested the waters with a gathering of 100 freedom lovers in the midnight-blue Taxachusetts city of Newburyport a couple of weeks back and am raring to go for the big one this Wednesday, the Tax Day Tea Party in front of the State House in Boston:

“They’re your true audience. Not the MSM.”

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:04 pm 27. kynna:

The best coverage of the events will be on Twitter. Legit protestors should be prepared to use the new media to get the truth out constantly. The MSM can’t compete with or twist that.

And if you’ve got a video camera, head for the crazies and start interviewing them. They’ll slip. And it will be entertaining for the follow-up.

The only way to make the media tell the truth is to compete with them using the truth. And their fiercest competition right now is on the internet.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:08 pm 28. rrr:

The signs idea seems to me to be a must. The flaccid media will only want to interview those that discredit the Tea Parties. The only way they cannot do so freely is if we make sure that there is some way to call them what they are.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:09 pm 29. Paul A'Barge:

Or, confront them and beat the living snot out of them.

Works for me.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:15 pm 30. George:

The Dallas Tea Party put their core principles on their website.
http://dallasteaparty.org/principles/
1. Limited Government – As our Founding Fathers recognized, restraint of government is necessary to protect the liberties of the people.
2. Fiscal Responsibility – Government at all levels must learn to live within its means. To saddle future generations with the crushing burden of our excess spending is unconscionable.
3. Personal Responsibility – Liberty is unsustainable without responsibility. Each citizen must take responsibility for the consequences of his or her own actions while respecting the rights and dignity of others.
4. The Rule of Law – Consistent, independent and uniform application of the law is critical to a free and prosperous society.
5. National Sovereignty – We must maintain a strong national defense, effective security for our borders, and sole control over our land and our laws.

I plan to bring a camera and photograph both creative signs that fit the core principles and examples of outliers that don’t. If counter protesters plan to come and make the crowd larger, more power to them. Just like email spam, multiple copies of a the same sign/message held by professional protesters are easy to spot and disregard in a sea of people who have never protested before holding hand made signs.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:20 pm 31. Brian:

Tar and Feathers
For the insurgents and the MSM
I’m just a little over this horseshit

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:21 pm 32. DaveS:

There should be several people with huge signs that say “<– He is an imposter” ready to impose themselves into any visual media coverage of these agents.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:23 pm 33. jblog:

So,instead of playing “Spot the Fed” teapartiers will be playing “Spot the ACORN Nut.”

Sounds like fun. An how hard could it be?

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:25 pm 34. How To Spot Tea Party Infiltrators | Hear ItFrom.Us:

[...] Roger Simon says to look for those exhibiting the most extreme behavior. I have some other “lefty” indicators to share with you. [...]

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:30 pm 35. Occam's Beard:

A little OT, but with all due respect, Roger, I suspect that the agents provocateur at lefty demonstrations were even further left than the demonstrators.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:57 pm 36. Rob in Michigan:

I think the vast, vast majority of America doesn’t care one whit about conservative protests. I doubt more than a minority have even heard of the ‘Tea Bag’ protests planned. I think when they hear ‘tea-bagger’, they’re all going ‘wha? huh? whatever’.

I think the “plots” to “infiltrate” protests are all in Malkin’s mind and the nutso-cuckoo is spreading. I’m sure that most citizens focus is on Congress, not on blogger’s protest plans.

Apr 8, 2009 - 2:57 pm 37. RR Ryan:

Please, I can spot a liberal a mile away. As I can a conservative. This isn’t rocket schience, but it is highly entertaining.

Apr 8, 2009 - 3:02 pm 38. RR Ryan:

Or rocket science, for that matter. Darn that wireless keyboard; it’s its fault.

Apr 8, 2009 - 3:04 pm 39. Mikey NTH:

“Secret agent man, secret agent man
They’re giving you a number and taking away your name”

Apr 8, 2009 - 3:21 pm 40. zanne:

Easy to spot. Clip board,brown t-shirt,sweating. Come to the tea party ACORN. It is attracting MSM exposure to our benefit. Meet the other “civilian army”.

Apr 8, 2009 - 3:41 pm 41. Whitehall:

I’m afraid Mr. Simon’s analysis is helpful but his method of responding is useless. Once the media pick up on the agents’ embarassing behavior and broadcast it, the damage will have been done – mission accomplished.

A lot will hinge on the values of the MSM reporters and their editors. Our interference should be gaged by their behavior. If they want the look-bad images, then we’ll need to be more proactive. Even they seem balanced, back at the newsroom, only the idiots will shown on the tube.

A basic is isolation. Put as much distance between you and the bad actors. They will try and associate you and their bad behavior in front of the camera.

Ultimately, the anarchic nature of street demonstrations leads to street warfare if one side wants to push it that far – think SA versus Reds in Weimar. Not advocating it, just pointing out the nature of such things. Likely, they will drive the people with good conscious out of the public discourse, if they so desire.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:01 pm 42. Carol:

So despite the fact that the MSM has completely ignored us somebody is obviously afraid that the movement is catching on. Well, we have caught on, we are growing every day and we ain’t backing down. Any scheme designed to discredit us will only backfire. We are fighting the good fight.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:02 pm 43. Geo Walsh:

Look for dreadlocks.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:08 pm 44. Wellspring:

Roger,

Keep in mind that the plants will do everything to present themselves as extreme and obscene. Racism, sexism, homophobia, whatever is likely to offend the mainstream is what they’ll show off.

The media will swallow the whole story whole. Remember how the racists, communists and antisemites in the ANSWER protests were ignored by the MSM? Don’t expect them to give anyone other than them any coverage.

Our response must be this: get photos and videos, as much footage as possible, of the offensive protesters. Especially their faces. Then have PJ Media make a site to expose the real identities of the ringers by posting the pictures and getting viewers to identify them. Identifying them by name (or at least matching them to known leftist protesters or members of groups like ANSWER, ACORN, or the unions) won’t make the NY Times, but will be available to rebut the charges.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:24 pm 45. Jim:

Ignore the media. 2008 was the last cycle they’ll control. This is a race to take the Constitution back before the Internet is seized by the government, which is imminent. Once they do that, we’re all toast. Organize, Organize, Organize and vote both of these rancid, corrupt parties out in 2010. This is our last chance, gang.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:32 pm 46. Citizen Journalists: MUT’s Idea First! « Temple of Mut:

[...] is how to deal with the the agitators, from Roger L. Simon. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Media lets us downTea Party SuggestionsTea [...]

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:34 pm 47. Mutnodjmet:

I have a story here of a potential crasher:

http://templeofmut.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/citizen-journalists-muts-idea-first/

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:35 pm 48. middleQ:

Actually, since most of these protest require a permit, I would just ask them to leave. They don’t have a permit to be there but the Tea Party protesters do. If they don’t leave I would ask a cop to help them out, or at least cordon them off from the rest of the group. After that, I would ignore them once they are away from the group. Like Roger I used to be a lefty protester and what they love to do is to get you to over react. Just ask them to leave.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:59 pm 49. Terrye:

Rob:

If only a handful have heard about the meetings, it is because the media does not bother reporting them.

Malkin is not one of my favorite people, but I would not be a bit surprised if some nutso ccuckoo from the left did not try to crash the protests. After all, only the left is allowed to do such things, when conservatives protests it is weird, when lefties do it..it is speaking truth to power.

Apr 8, 2009 - 4:59 pm 50. SLK:

How can ACORN be the recipient of government funds, and be allowed to engage in this kind of behavior? Wouldn’t this be the kind of thing that legally would disqualify them from receiving the money?

Apr 8, 2009 - 5:28 pm 51. JM Hanes:

Bring a tambourine. Rattle it like crazy near the microphone whenever someone tries to interview a fraudster.

Bring along a batch of those little noisemakers that roll out like paper tongues and blow ‘em en masse at the faux folks. That’ll make an irresistible picture (which will include your signs, of course) for any camera man worth his salt.

If you want to put a name to the infiltrator, most of the time you can probably just introduce yourself, because it’s hard not to respond in kind. Ordinarily, I’d say stick your hand out, which makes it even harder to weasel out, but you don’t want to do it if there’s a camera in sight. That too, unfortunately, would be a picture that gets taken.

Off the top of my head, I’d say that the more ideas that single individuals can use on their own, the better — especially for those who are uncomfortable or nervous about being or seeming confrontational. I’d love to elicit as many practical, small scale, suggestions from anybody who has got them as I can.

For the fighters among us, save the anger for your signs. Humor is infinitely preferable on the ground, and probably more effective. If you invite the cameras to a fight, your message gets lost — and, of course, ACORN wins…..

Apr 8, 2009 - 5:30 pm 52. Beware: Lefties Plan To Infiltrate Tax Day Tea Parties « Nice Deb:

[...] good advice from former lefty, Roger L. Simon on potential provocateurs: Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters and then ask yourself: [...]

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:09 pm 53. Barack is coming for YOU:

Give it up, Republi-tards. You can’t beat us. We have the media on our side. We’re well-funded — with your tax dollars! We’re well-trained, experienced political protesters.

You rookies are screwed. Trust me, what you see on the news will be what WE want seen. Your little tea parties are gonna get crashed. Hard.

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:27 pm 54. Jim:

Most of the Tea Parties are being held during the lunch hour (since most Tea Partiers are employed). Most progressives are barely out of bed by then, so I don’t think there will be a problem.

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:29 pm 55. One I'd Dog:

Assign 2-3 people in ‘tiger teams’ to record the media from a remove position exposing the interviewer, camera crew, and boom mike.

Phony set-ups are usually obvious and incriminating.
Follow the media crews like glue and double team them if required.

Welcome to the trenches troops, make it fun.
A smile and good cheer drives a provocateur into behaviors they would not ordinarily do.
Don’t let them off the hook.
Play them like a fat trout.
You’re smarter than they are.

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:51 pm 56. One I'd Dog:

Assign 2-3 people in ‘tiger teams’ to record the media from a remove position exposing the interviewer, camera crew, and boom mike.

Phony set-ups are usually obvious and incriminating.
Follow the media crews like glue and double team them if required.

Welcome to the trenches troops, make it fun.
A smile and good cheer drives a provocateur into a rage.
Don’t let them off the hook.
Play them like a fat trout.
You’re smarter than they are.

Apr 8, 2009 - 6:56 pm 57. Lord Moonbatten:

Hmm…how to detect the infiltrators? Well, I know someone whose sign on April 15th is going to read as follows:

” People who shower daily get angry too.”

…so it might be as simple as following our collective noses!

Apr 8, 2009 - 7:10 pm 58. kentuckyliz:

Hand out little plastic embryos like the prolifers use, with tags attached,

No Taxation Without Conception!

The apparent prolifiness of it will trip the deep anger of the babykillaz. They’ll flush themselves out.

A savvy infiltrator will appear preppy and calmly say outrageous things that are just nutty. Don’t look for dreadlocks and the smell of patchouli. They might actually clean up and set an alarm. LOL

Apr 8, 2009 - 7:46 pm 59. From Boston:

For reference, here is a link to counter-demonstration recruitment and discussion in Boston:

http://community.livejournal.com/b0st0n/6547221.html

Sometimes it’s depressing to live in Boston when so many people consider class warfare the height of moral principle, and feel that shouting down the other side counts as dialogue …

Apr 8, 2009 - 9:51 pm 60. Exguru:

Nobody has ever seen a mainstream turnout in this country. From what I’ve heard, the leftists are going to be overwhelmed and pathetic.

Apr 8, 2009 - 11:11 pm 61. newton:

The ACORN types better not underestimate us, because they will eventually be very sorry they did.

Remember that to Leftists, we are the enemy. We are the ones they want to destroy and make irrelevant. Watch them like hawks. Expose them in public. Mock them mercilessly. And make sure the world knows we can mock them with the best of them.

A small band of “irrelevant” people dressed in Indian costumes seized a ship in the Boston harbor and threw a bunch of boxes of tea out to the waters at night. That was in 1773. The “irrelevant ones” were none else than the beginning of labor pains for the birth of the United States of America. Let us never forget that.

Let’s make sure that we “irrelevant ones” make them “dismissers” eat and swallow their words. Once we show our strength massively, they will have to stop laughing at us. Oh yes, they will.

I can’t wait to see their pathetic faces.

Apr 8, 2009 - 11:28 pm 62. James S.:

Do they need agents provocateur? I remember the reporting of the shouts of “Kill Him!” at a McCain campaign rally. The ones that nobody else heard. Unfortunately, they don’t need to provoke anything. They can just lie.

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:42 am 63. Pajamas Media » Tea Party Role Reversal:

[...] Read the entire post here. [...]

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:57 am 64. WJA:

#50.
You’ve got to be kidding. Millions of our tax dollars are going to support ACORN. Do you think for one minute this administration is going to change that?

Apr 9, 2009 - 1:41 am 65. Sapwolf:

I’m bringing my Sarah poster. If that don’t flush them out, I don’t know what will.

Apr 9, 2009 - 2:56 am 66. Vaughn:

Taze their asses!

Apr 9, 2009 - 3:57 am 67. canuck:

Here in Florida they will be treated the same way as the gays that decided to protest the hiring policies at Cracker Barrel…after the arrival of the pick up trucks you couldn’t find a BMW for miles. Likewise you couldn’t find a deputy within gunshot range to referee…while normally they are grazing at the target business.

ACORN will receive exactly the same treatment and if a few of them end up in the Trauma Unit it will be because they got out of hand and required some added instruction and assistance to follow the rules. This will be liberally and quickly dispensed. My bet is that the lefties will stay out of sight knowing full well what will happen to them.

As for #16 there will be lots of Confederate Flags here and it means what it has always meant…not the meaning assigned by the NCAAP and its media suck ups. In fact, it will have a lot more meaning in the next few years as the South becomes more and more disgusted at demands for it to support the parasitic liberal spending states.

Apr 9, 2009 - 4:13 am 68. Peter the Bubblehead:

Roger Simon wrote: But times have changed and for once the formerly quiescent right is gearing up to demonstrate on April 15. The left has not had to deal with something like this in recent years.

Peter writes: Not entirely true. I have been a part of several pro-military/anti-anti-war protests in the Boston area. The first time we showed up to counter-protest the anti-war wakos, they had no idea we would be there and had not a clue how to react to us aside from subtle threats. (Especially when local pedestrians and vehicle traffic started showing us support and not them in what they considered firmly established lefty-land.) They were a little more prepared for us the next demonstration, but still were quite pissed off that they did not have the street to themselves and their message untarnished. Our mere presence upset them.

Apr 9, 2009 - 4:57 am 69. Samizdat:

Hey Barack is Coming For You,
You sound like a Brown Shirt storm trooper, tolerant and open minded to boot. Don’t forget to take your Che tee shirt off before you come to the party.

Apr 9, 2009 - 5:05 am 70. RW:

Be very wary of anyone who claims to be working on behalf of the Tea Party and asks you for your personal information and to sign something. One person at a recent event asked to read the paper and what they wanted to do with their personal information. It turns out the person “collecting” was not really there for anyone and got real nasty with the person who tried to find out what the “petition” was really for. It sounds like their are Obama people trying to do the divide and conquer thing.

Be VERY careful of anyone who is collecting personal information for a “petition.” And anyone with multiple holes in their face not counting earrings.

Apr 9, 2009 - 5:20 am 71. Northern Light:

I found a left-wing plant right here. And it’s Roger L. Simon.

“Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom, I always say.”

Really, I wonder where he got his orders from.
Next he’ll write about anti-rightist campaigns, then he’ll call for a Great Leap Forward. After that he’ll call for a cultural revolution, followed by a campaign against The Gang of Four!

Very bad disguise comrade.

Good luck on the 15th.

Apr 9, 2009 - 7:00 am 72. Sebastian Shaw:

I believe the Huffington Post & even the racist ACORN has severely underestimated the Tea Parties; they are going to be in for a shock. And outnumbered (aside from the MSM).

Apr 9, 2009 - 7:38 am 73. one of my own:

There is no better evidence of the fear you have of your own. This preemptive dodge of responsibility is comical. There are three possibilities – 1. The Tea Parties go off without a hitch. 2. The Tea Parties fizzle in attendance. 3. Right wing nutjobs bring hate and violence to the parties. You’re trying to insulate yourselves from the last two. “It’s the liberals’ fault!” “We’ve been sabotaged!” “ACORN did it!” Well, that idiot who killed three cops wasn’t a liberal or a member of ACORN. He was one of your own. Your problem isn’t that you can’t trust the liberals. Your problem is you can’t trust conservatives.

I’m calling it . . . the Tea Parties will happen largely without incident. Some will be big, most will be an embarrassingly small. You will claim “The revolution has begun! The people have spoken!” And then everyone will go back to their barbecues until called to action against some new victims’ myth by Rupert and his Fox News knuckleheads.

See you at the Tea Party.

Apr 9, 2009 - 7:58 am 74. Northern Light:

O.K., now that I’ve gotten that joke out of my system, here’s some free advice to Tea Partiers and I swear it’s worth every penny.

1. The organizers of protests like this always overstate attendance. The media tends to under-estimate turnout. This is not an anti-conservative thing, the media under-estimates lefty protests while the organizers inflate the numbers a bit. So if the organizers of your protests claim 100,000 people turned out and the press says it was more like 12 people, assume the actual figure is somewhere in between.

2. Be careful trying to spot the difference between infiltrators and wingnuts. At lefty protests both kinds show up. Both are bad for the protest, but they need different approaches. The nutjobs need kid gloves otherwise they’ll make a scene while the infiltrators need a harder approach so they don’t make a (staged) scene themselves.

3. Avoid stereotyping people. The guy you point out as a lefty spy because of his long-hair, beard, and sandals just might be Jesus Christ making his second coming (and you’ve got to hope Jesus would be on your side).

4. At all times be polite. A protest can bring out stong emotions. It might feel great to shout “KILL ALL LIBERALS!” but it won’t look good on CNN and Youtube. The majority of people who follow the protests won’t be attracted to your side by anger, but a peaceful polite protest attracts people in the centre who don’t have strong opinions.

5. If you spot wingnuts or leftys in disguise, try to keep them away from cameras. That does not mean beating them up. Violence does not help your cause. It doesn’t matter if the person who starts things is either crazy or an enemy, the violence will be reported and give bad publicity to the protest. Ask yourself what Jesus would do. He would not tear up people’s signs and beat them.

6. If you snarl at every news camera and talk about a left-wing conspiracy among the MSM, the press will treat you the way that police treat people who commit crimes while wearing “Kill All Cops” T-shirts. Be nice to the press. Be polite, and for God’s sake explain your cause in logical terms that people at home can sympathise with.

“We are concerned that this free-spending will lead to a debt crises that will hobble the American economy for decades.” (Good)

“We are here to lynch the President because he’s a Muslim who wants to take away our guns and force our children to marry homosexuals” (Bad)

I too have been to many left-wing protests. Some have been very effective in getting their message across, while others have been very ugly messes that harmed their cause. Try to see the difference.

Once again, good luck on the 15th.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:03 am 75. one of my own:

61. newton . . . “The ACORN types better not underestimate us, because they will eventually be very sorry they did.”

It’s impossible to underestimate you. As for “they will be very sorry they did” that sounds like the ramblings of a small man ignored by life and threatening revenge for his insignificance. You should apply at Fox News. Maybe you could be one of O’Reilly’s stalkers.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:07 am 76. Pastor of Muppets:

Step 1: Wealthy Conservatives fear their tax rates increasing and realize they need to put their money into action if they’re going to keep their sweet George Bush tax rate.

Step 2: Wealthy Conservative Republicans and Republican politicians create a phony “movement” which they label “grassroots” despite the fact that it originated at the top ranks of the GOP. They laughably compare their protest against “taxation” to a Colonial American act of rebellion in which radical Bostonians protested “taxation without representation . The irony, of course, is that conservatives do have plenty of representation and have basically had their way for the last eight years, and now suddenly are protesting because it’s just not fair that they lost and now it’s their turn to eat the $#1t taco.

Step 3: Have Rush Limbaugh and “Fair and Balanced” Fox News, which have always shared a great proclivity for parroting GOP talking points, offer legitimacy to the Tea Party, and even send their right-wing shills like Hannity and Cavuto to attend the protests. The irony, of course, is that after eight years of not offering legitimacy to a single anti-war protest, which hundreds of thousands of Americans attended across the country, Fox News simply can’t get excited enough about a few scattered protests in which maybe hundreds, perhaps a few thousand total are expected to attend.

Step 4: Have right-wing publications like PajamasMedia parrot Fox News’ parroting of Rush Limbaugh’s parroting of the GOP establishment’s bogus claim that this is a “movement”, that “lots of people are going to attend”, that “the left wing is suddenly ‘envious’ and ‘nervous’ by the right’s ‘getting into the protest game’”. The irony of course is that the GOP, the right wing media and a few radical right wing fringe groups involved have only succeeded in creating an echo chamber, a feedback loop, a smoke-and-mirrors act designed specifically to try to give credence and weight to a movement that is literally being ignored by everyone else because most Americans don’t know (and frankly don’t want to know) what “teabagging” or hating our president has to do with getting our economy back on track.

Step 5: Use right-wing friendly media to stoke pathetic, irrational fears (apparently the GOP’s only strategy anymore) that “liberals and federal agents will infiltrate the protests” and cause violence in an insidious effort to discredit the movement. The irony, of course, is that with the amount of xenophobes, racists, white supremacists, milita fanatics, extremist libertarians (i.e., everyone who was at the Palin rallies during the campaign), these Tea Parties will need absolutely no help from any outsiders in hijacking and discrediting them. The irony upon irony is, when the inevitable footage of racism, white supremacy, and sheer hatred of President Obama, liberals and minorities at the event surfaces, right wingers will blame “liberal infiltrators” “undercover federal agents” and “socialist activists” for sabotaging their Tea Parties.

Can you say “Burning of the Reichstag?” I knew you could.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:19 am 77. R. Woods:

I will be attending a tea party this April 15th. So many choices to make, what to wear what to carry! Large papier-mache head? Che tee shirt? Code Pink bucket of blood? No Bush/Cheney sign? Make Love Not War/ Peace Sign? Save the Whales? No Oil for Blood or whatever? I missed out on all the fun over the past 40 years and I want to make up for it all at one time.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:24 am 78. one of my own:

75. R. Woods: let me help you. How about “Bush/Cheney: 4 more years!”

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:39 am 79. Jack Okie:

middleQ -

How docile we have become when no one questions needing a permit FROM the government to protest the government. This came up in an article I saw yesterday about Ann Arbor, Michigan. These tea parties are not like the St. Patrick’s Day parade. The Constitution says nothing about permits in the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

We’re probably going to have to lawyer up to deal with Democrat controlled cities like Ann Arbor when they try to stifle us with fees and bureaucratic hocus-pocus.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:45 am 80. one of my own:

77. Jack Okie: . . . “We’re probably going to have to lawyer up to deal with Democrat controlled cities like Ann Arbor when they try to stifle us with fees and bureaucratic hocus-pocus.”

I think you have a right to expect exactly the same treatment that demonstrators received in Minneapolis during the Republican convention. Enjoy your cage.

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:50 am 81. tanstaafl:

I will attend a Tea Party in the spirit of taxation without representation is tyranny.

I don’t deem that anybody at all is representing me in DC these days, while government, local, state & federal, seems to be becoming about

new ways to milk the turnip

As for agents provocateurs, I became inured to their ignorance & bombast years ago, walking through speeches at Berzerk-ley.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:00 am 82. SukieTawdry:

I’ll be at the Sacramento tea party (as will Cavuto, I believe) with my camera at the ready. I’ll be very disappointed if the other side doesn’t make an appearance.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:08 am 83. Six Meat Buffet » Blog Archive » It’s Tea Time In Tennessee (Sticky, Newer Posts Below):

[...] planning on making their presence known at these rallies – some will be obnoxious (as usual), others will try to disguise themselves as part of the movement, but will likely be holding signs or making statements to the press that are intended to make the [...]

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:11 am 84. Pastor of Muppets:

80. one of my own: “I think you have a right to expect exactly the same treatment that demonstrators received in Minneapolis during the Republican convention. Enjoy your cage.”

Zing!

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:11 am 85. ked5:

22. Terrye:

The strange thing is on one hand they want to treat the Tea Party people as if they are of no import, on the other they send spies and plants. Why? What are they worried about?

~~~~~~~~~~

That the resistance is growing.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:12 am 86. ked5:

36. Rob in Michigan:

I think the “plots” to “infiltrate” protests are all in Malkin’s mind and the nutso-cuckoo is spreading. I’m sure that most citizens focus is on Congress, not on blogger’s protest plans.

~~~~~~~~~~

You aren’t very old are you? My husband attended some protest years ago, out of curiosity. yes, there are indeed “plants” whose sole purpose is distraction. it is an OLD technique

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:14 am 87. ked5:

50. SLK:

How can ACORN be the recipient of government funds, and be allowed to engage in this kind of behavior? Wouldn’t this be the kind of thing that legally would disqualify them from receiving the money?

~~~~~~
You are precious in your idealism. Hate to burst your innocence, but legality or illegality of a thing has NEVER stopped ACORN from doing what it darn well pleases. oh, and collecting lots of government (re: our taxes) $$$. Espeically with the organizer in chief supporting them.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:23 am 88. Peggy:

I think the way to deal with it is to quickly escort anyone acting extremely or with extreme or racist signs out of the main demonstration, recording the entire process.

Then when the other side attempts to make it look like this “protestor” was representative of the demonstrators, we simply post the real footage to YouTube and so forth.

There should be an offical photographer and camera man at each demonstration who can provide all the raw footage necessary to counter any claims made by infiltrators.

Oh and be very careful what you say to those beside you. Its one thing to respond to the speakers as a group. Feel free. Such responses will be recorded. But what you say privately to the person next to you could be used against the movement and there will be nothing to say otherwise. In that regard, circumscribe your comments to others carefully for the good of the movement.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:38 am 89. Peggy:

P.S.

While we may want to be careful what we say just as a good idea in general, please don’t allow the possibility of infiltrators to destroy the possibility of trust among us. That could be another goal of this tactic and we can’t let them get away with it.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:42 am 90. Bill:

Hmmm, looks like I should add, “combating secret pro-govt agent men” to this list.

21+ Reasons to Go to a Tea Party

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:44 am 91. tanstaafl:

Without arcing into paranoia (haha), one might get the impression that the current government in Washington DC is more supportive of the non-taxpayer and individuals and organizations like ACORN than it is of the taxpayer.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:57 am 92. Virginia Slim:

There is always a troll (looks like one too) in the crowd too. They will blow their cover when the One-Who-Bows is criticized. Heh heh!

Apr 9, 2009 - 10:30 am 93. Dr. Mark:

LOL..the ACORN members will probably pretty easy to spot…what was the saying about..fly shite in the sugar??? Or …something in a woodpile??
Bring em’ on!!!

AH, Master of Puppets…back from the masterbatorium??? Please whipe your hands and go back to MoveOn. WHile this is a joy, during a lunchbreak, I must return to actual WORK..you ought to try the same thing on occasion.

Apr 9, 2009 - 10:53 am 94. Aaron:

I think you should be a lot more worried about getting a decent turnout than about agent provocateurs. I’ve been following this story on the left and the right, and my sense is that the left is amused and not at all threatened by the Tea Parties, for the simple reason that the Tea Parties so far have not been heavily attended. Also, the term “Tea Party” itself is somewhat effete and non-threatening. Couldn’t you think of something more manly, like “Freedom Stampedes” or “Operation: Thunder Fist?”

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:20 am 95. Pastor of Muppets:

You’d think the Catholic Church would be heavily supporting and promoting these events, considering all the rampant teabagging that is supposedly going to go on.

Because you know they’re all into that.

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:38 am 96. Janet:

Fox has a pretty good story on the Tea Party revolts up right now: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/09/modern-tea-parties-chance-to-scream/ The article mentions PJTV.

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:52 am 97. Juvenal:

# 94 Aaron:

If the left is “amused and not at all threatened by the Tea Parties,” why are the useful idiots working so hard to discredit them? The mere mention of “Tea Party” in a comments section draws the Obamabots like flies to honey.

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:55 am 98. Justin:

#74. “Ask yourself what Jesus would do. He would not tear up people’s signs and beat them.”

And the Jews’ passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.
And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath beaten me up.

John 2:13-17

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:11 pm 99. Justin:

The point being that I do not believe that He condoned the horrible things that have been done in His name, but neither was He a hippie.

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:16 pm 100. Sebastian Shaw:

The Obamabots are back in force. Predictable. They really are scared. This is what grassroots movement really is–not some government subsidy such as ACORN.

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:20 pm 101. Sebastian Shaw:

Juvenile, I’m thinking a more apt metaphor the Obamabots are drawn to “Tea Party” like flies to manure & garbage instead of flies to honey.

Hey, Obamabots read this: 0000210001.

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:22 pm 102. Navas de Tolosa:

Methinks they doth protest too much.

I read the comments from the *other* side. I see the sly and the obvious putdowns. Try to answer such statements is waste of time. These people do not care for facts or reasoning discussions. Only to hurt morale or to make rash reaction do they insert themselves into a cause that is the moral opposite of their own beliefs. These actions show motivation. It is called “fear.”

Apr 9, 2009 - 12:40 pm 103. Bill:

The more the merrier at tea parties if you ask me. The left meia is going to spin these demonstrations away from their true meaning whether they actually go or not. What is more worrisome that only 53% of americans would prefer a capitalist system over a socialist one. Read the article here: http://www.reteaparty.com

Apr 9, 2009 - 1:29 pm 104. Beyond April 15 And Other Tea Party News « Justbkuz:

[...] Advice for protest participants in recognizing activists who want to hijack the demonstration from Pajamas Media: [...]

Apr 9, 2009 - 1:30 pm 105. WARNING: Tea Party Crashers Mean Business | Michigan Blogger:

[...] L. Simon has Some Great Advice to [...]

Apr 9, 2009 - 1:32 pm 106. Chikntheif:

“We Surround Them”, as Glen Beck says. The leftist liars are a small LOUD minority while we are the silent majority but when we become ‘LOUD’ the liar left is no match to us. They are very afraid of us. Very, very afraid. They will get trampled under the soles of our patriotic American boots. We have no reason to be afraid of leftist liar plants who wish to rain on our parade because we will ultimitely win this war. We will relentlessly fight the foolish and reckless leftist freeloading non-producers and put common sense adults back in charge of our great nation. WE SHALL PREVAIL !!!

Apr 9, 2009 - 1:59 pm 107. Pastor of Muppets:

Chikntheif:

“We Surround Them”, as Glen Beck says. The leftist liars are a small LOUD minority while we are the silent majority but when we become ‘LOUD’ the liar left is no match to us. They are very afraid of us. Very, very afraid. They will get trampled under the soles of our patriotic American boots. We have no reason to be afraid of leftist liar plants who wish to rain on our parade because we will ultimitely win this war. We will relentlessly fight the foolish and reckless leftist freeloading non-producers and put common sense adults back in charge of our great nation. WE SHALL PREVAIL !!!

Glenn Beck is a wimpering psychopath. The fact that you would look to him for guidance speaks poorly of you as well. The right wing in this country has finally been exposed as nothing but ignorant racist thugs, and America has abandoned you. You have no real idea how alone and marginalized you all truly are. You’re confined to scattered rural areas and the south, and that’s where you’ll wither. And the more you violently lash out against the rest of the country, the harder it will put you back in your place.

Apr 9, 2009 - 2:50 pm 108. Fantom:

I am headed to the tea party in Oklahoma City. I am taking a full car load of real Americans with me.

I also am taking a sign. On one side… “An Obama Warenty is Worthless” on the other..”HELL NO – B.O.”

Apr 9, 2009 - 3:00 pm 109. TEA PARTY DIRECTORY « FactReal:

[...] Infiltration: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left: It’s not time to back down, it’s time to prepare for such an infiltration. “ACORN and the Huffington Post are planning to infiltrate the Tea Parties…trying to make the Tea Party movement seem to be what it’s not, painting libertarians as racists or similar nonsense, well, that deserves to be exposed and countered vigorously. So my recommendation to Tea Party demonstrators…Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters and then ask yourself: Is that real? Is that person who he or she says he is? Cui bono, who profits, here from what they are saying or doing? Draw your conclusions (carefully!) and then act accordingly and completely within the law. [...]

Apr 9, 2009 - 3:07 pm 110. Trisha2cents:

I’m headed to the Sacramento event with sign and camera in hand. Sign will read on one side:

Obambi, America’s used car salesman

and the other: Spend Oprah’s money not mine

Apr 9, 2009 - 3:19 pm 111. one of my own:

100. Sebastian Shaw . . . “This is what grassroots movement really is–not some government subsidy such as ACORN.”

Laughable. Republicans don’t have the stones for sustained resistance. You have no experience in it. You’re soft. This Tea Party crap has all the weight of a Fox News Alert. It’s not a movement it’s marketing event, the Twitter protests. A grass roots movement takes a hell of a lot more than a few people piling into a Voyager minivan and driving to Sacramento to get Neil Cavuto’s autograph.

Go ahead, have your fun. Just don’t drive drunk.

Apr 9, 2009 - 5:18 pm 112. Trisha2cents:

“Laughable. Republicans don’t have the stones for sustained resistance. You have no experience in it. You’re soft.”

We’ve never been this pissed off at our government before. You may be surprised to see how the silent majority rear it’s mighty head.

Apr 9, 2009 - 5:28 pm 113. one of my own:

112. Trisha2cents: . . . “You may be surprised to see how the silent majority rear it’s mighty head”

The first thing you have to understand is this – you’re not the majority, not legislatively, not culturally, not mathematically. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. I’m not saying you shouldn’t have your parties. Knock yourself out. But be prepared to be rejected . . . by the majority. That’s what protests are – statements of frustration against powerlessness. You’ve been warned.

Apr 9, 2009 - 5:39 pm 114. Towering Barbarian:

113. One of My Own,
And you know this, how? By what the multiple voices inside your own head choose to tell you or by what you read from your own bellybutton lint? o_O

Sorry dude, but it’s hardly an accident that Democrats dislike being reminded that they’re the party of higher taxes at this time of year. If protests were all that futile the Left would not be so fearful of them. ^_^

Apr 9, 2009 - 6:27 pm 115. redmirabai:

My sister brought a video camera to the last Tea Party in Seattle. While filming for possible use on YouTube, she was threatened by one person, who told her that she would be sued if he saw his face used. She told me that he followed her around, watched her, and made the threat more than once.
We both wonder if it was someone who didn’t want to be unmasked as an ACORN op.
Bring cameras! Free citizens assembling and exercising their rights are unlikely to fear being photographed. The posters who suggest a clearinghouse for pictures of participants have a good idea.
This is the Age of Axelrod and Astroturfing!

Apr 9, 2009 - 6:59 pm 116. Touch me, Titus:

T.B., I think you got the last and best word(s).

Apr 9, 2009 - 7:00 pm 117. Trisha2cents:

“The first thing you have to understand is this – you’re not the majority, not legislatively, not culturally, not mathematically”

You’re right on one front – legislatively, that’s not up for debate but your other two points are weak and have no substance regarding culture and math. And don’t give me the “look at the last election”,BS, it’s just not that simple, sorry. Let me let you in on a little secret, it’s called a “silent majority” for good reason. Time will show you how loud and demanding our countries’ working class, “mean” money-making tax paying entrepreneurs will become. The tea parties are just the beginning of taking back what our Constitution stands for. Most of us came here for the better good. Those of us that had the brains and temerity that made the trek did it for the good of our children and children’s children. Where do you stand on that front?

Apr 9, 2009 - 8:47 pm 118. Velvethammer:

113. One of my own

“That’s what protests are – statements of frustration against powerlessness. You’ve been warned”

This is so typical of the left – when they don’t like the message they try and kill the messenger regardless if the message bears any truth. Yes you are right- protests are statements of frustration – but not against powerlessness – they are against the misuse of power. BHO has been given the keys to WH and has let all his five finger discount, lying, tax avoiding pals in to rape and pillage as fast as they can and now they want to raise taxes to sustain their new Movin on up lifestyle. Trust me, reasonable people can only take so much sand being pounded up their arse before they start protesting that they are getting screwed.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:54 pm 119. Velvethammer:

112. Trisha2cents

“We’ve never been this pissed off at our government before. You may be surprised to see how the silent majority rear it’s mighty head.”

You are so right. The Right typically does not attend ‘protests” like the left does because we are out working to make a living not whining to make someone else pay for my living.

Apr 9, 2009 - 9:59 pm 120. Meryl:

Looks like the bots are getting bugged about Americans standing up and speaking out.

Regardless of how the tea parties go, it’s just the beginning.

For the dhimmis who suggest that “tea party” designation is a soft-sounding phrase–must be graduates of Harvard.

The original tea party was thrown by strong, muscular, angry men who knew how to fight and win. So I think “tea party” is a fine designation, and we intend to live up to it.

Apr 9, 2009 - 10:09 pm 121. Gene Lalor:

The Boston Tea Party wasn’t much of a party and the ton of tea dumped into Boston harbor in 1773 represented more a sacrifice than it was a protest against Britain’s tea tax. The colonials loved their spot of tea but they loved their freedom and independence far more.

The Boston Tea Party was actually a powder keg which wasn’t the least bit dampened by the frigid New England waters that December night. The massive explosion of that keg helped serve to light the way for the American Revolution which, three years down the dusty roads of 18th century America, led to our Declaration of Independence from an oppressive King George III and a vengeful British Parliament.

The madness of King George and the stupidity and venality of that legislative body whose members, bedecked in their powdered wigs and immersed in their pride and righteous indignation, have been fully documented over the 235 intervening years since that tea party. See here for an abbreviated account of the events and consequences of the Boston Tea Party and a participant’s recollections: http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm.

Five days from now, Americans will have another opportunity to inform other oppressive ruling bodies that we’re fed up and refuse to take it any longer.

The Congress of the United States and our new, reigning monarch-wanna be, Obama the First, have seen fit to impose on the American people and upon our children and grandchildren undue, repressive, and unnecessary tax burdens which are designed to create, support, and expand massive social programs intent on establishing a massive, dependent welfare state and to “share the wealth,” as King Obama let slip to Joe the Plumber during the campaign.

Most of the machinations in process are still unknown to the citizenry, such programs as ending the Bush tax cuts in 2010, a tactic which will allow our Democrats to assert they did not raise taxes. Taxes will soar because the tax cuts simply expired. Get that?

Our Democratic leaders are actively and subtly employing the ol’ boiling a frog trick: Dump that little green sucker into tepid water and gradually jack up the temperature until, Voila! you have frog legs that taste like chicken, and taxpayers who are boiled alive and ready for the Soylent Green factories–after they pay their taxes.

Scheduled not coincidentally with the day our various governments, led by and linked to the feds, exact their pounds of taxpayer flesh, April 15th, full details on the reasons and purposes behind America’s New Tea Party can be found here: http://www.teapartyday.com/.

There may or may not be any actual tea tossed into the briny on that day. It’s planned as a, hopefully peaceful, national demonstration by good, American citizens who sincerely yet forcefully demand to be heard in Washington, Albany, Trenton, Sacramento, and the rest of our state capitals. We want it made vividly clear that we do not endorse and will never support converting the United States of America into a socialist nation.

As Jefferson wrote in America’s Declaration of Independence, “we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”

May God bless, save, and preserve America!

(http://genelalor.com/)

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:37 pm 122. Trisha2cents:

seems like I’m hearin’ some of them good ole crickets. Guess it’s lites out in the basement, Nite boys.

Apr 9, 2009 - 11:52 pm 123. Gary Ogletree:

The trolls are out in force, to no avail. We are witnessing the high tide of the American left. Historians may mark this month with the bow to the Wahabi king, the White House denial and the Tax Day Tea Party as the turning point. We have the Declaration and the Constitution. They have nothing.

Apr 10, 2009 - 2:21 am 124. Peter the Bubblehead:

115. redmirabai wrote:
My sister brought a video camera to the last Tea Party in Seattle. While filming for possible use on YouTube, she was threatened by one person, who told her that she would be sued if he saw his face used. She told me that he followed her around, watched her, and made the threat more than once.

Peter writes: I had the same thing happen to me simply being a tourist in Seattle in September 2007. I think it’s just a money-making scheme, hoping if they threaten you enough, you will give them money to go away.

I simply pointed out that the man who was complaining was standing in a public park I was taking sa picture of, and that if he persisted in continuing to threaten me, I would not only take more, closer pictures of him, but make sure they made their way to the local police. He was quick to make a hasty retrat back to his park, where I took a few more shots of him and his homeless friends.

Apr 10, 2009 - 6:41 am 125. donttreadonme:

oneofmyown & Pastorofmuppets,
Where did the disdain of your country come from?
Let’s assume that I earn (in a legal manner)more than you – what gives you the right to appropriate my money for yourselves?
If socialism is so great, why aren’t people leaving Miami in the middle of the night and rafting to Cuba?
Do you really think America would be the super-power that it is if our founding fathers embraced collective statism from the get-go?
Please answer the questions without derision or snide remarks. You’ll notice that this is my first post not heaping disdain on you. I really would like you to answer these questions as honestly as possible.

Apr 10, 2009 - 7:17 am 126. Left-Wing Groups (ACORN/HuffPo “Reporters”) Planning To Infiltrate/Sabotage Tea Party Rallies - Martin_A_Knight’s blog - RedState:

[...] consider following these agents provocateurs around around with signs with arrows pointing at them and “ACORN Fraud” boldly written [...]

Apr 10, 2009 - 7:18 am 127. Peoples Press Collective » Denver Tea Party: Tax Day Protests Gear Up For April 15 Rally:

[...] Roger Simon offers some pointers on dealing with lefty agents provacateurs. [...]

Apr 10, 2009 - 8:56 am 128. Glenn Howard:

It’s not only the far-left that’s planning to infiltrate but the racist far-right as well. I’ve only looked briefly at http://www.stormfront.org to confirm this, but I’ve seen enough there to make it clear. Any thoughts on how to deal with this sort of infiltrator? How about clustering around them with “Racist Infiltrator” signs? Or “Racists Not Wanted or Needed” signs? Or “Limited Government Yes, Racist Government No” signs? How about some blank signs that can be lettered ad-hoc as required? Of course, the tactic suggested by a previous commenter, of escorting them out while taping doing so, will be effective against both kinds of infiltrator, providing we can legally and practically accomplish it.

Apr 10, 2009 - 9:23 am 129. geoffgo:

Gary@122

They have nothing.

Hate to disagree, but that’s wishful thinking. They NOW HAVE as much of our money as they can steal. And current law is on their side. And soon all our guns, with current law on their side.

Besides which the Left doesn’t give a sh*t about either of your referenced docs, or any of the rights granted therein. Realistically, it seems it’s to be US that has nothing, unless we get about keeping it.

If our protests aren’t edgy enough, the politicos won’t be suitably impressed.
“Peaceful and orderly” does not mean quiet. Thousands chanting STOP in unison is a start. After all, this is supposed to send an ANGRY message that makes them tremble and scares the crap out of them. Any other purpose for attending is a waste of time. The Left must play for keeps, as they fully grasp the consequences of failure.

I’m not advocating any type of violence. But, the bureaucrats at local, state and national levels need to get it. Right now. Nuance is superfluous.

My sign will read: STOP SPENDING! START CUTTING! OR, CANCEL YOUR PENSIONS!

Apr 10, 2009 - 9:30 am 130. Peter the Bubblehead:

125. donttreadonme wrote:
Please answer the questions without derision or snide remarks. You’ll notice that this is my first post not heaping disdain on you. I really would like you to answer these questions as honestly as possible.

Peter writes: I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you, donttread. Trolls like one and muppet love to cause division and derision, but never have any real answers.

(In truth, they both probably get paid by the post on forums like this by groups like ACORN.)

Apr 10, 2009 - 9:54 am 131. Peter the Bubblehead:

128. Glenn Howard wrote:
How about some blank signs that can be lettered ad-hoc as required?

Peter writes: I have learned from attending several anti-war counter-protests that it is handy to come with a whiteboard and dry-erase markers. It is also nice if the whiteboard is magnetic, because then you can post pre-printed signs on the board with magnets and have signs ready to respond to changing events around you very quickly, especially if you know what the typical counterarguments are. (For example, a typical chant by the anti-war groups was asking how many people Bush killed. My response was holding up the whiteboard asking how many people the terrorists have killed?)

Apr 10, 2009 - 9:58 am 132. Sebastian Shaw:

Blondie, “The Tide Is High”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cAnsjrKpic&feature=related

Apr 10, 2009 - 10:03 am 133. Justin Case:

Nope.
If I catch one, I will introduce it to pain.

Apr 10, 2009 - 10:33 am 134. Pat J:

I have already contacted my minions in San Antonio. They’ll be the ones selling the “I made Glenn Beck cry” T-shirts.

mwah hah hah hah.

Apr 10, 2009 - 11:51 am 135. Sebastian Shaw:

Pat J, if you watched Glenn Beck enough, you would know he cries quite often. Therefore YOU did not make him cry. Beck is just a high strung emotional guy.

You minions need better programming. Are they weather resistant?

Apr 10, 2009 - 11:58 am 136. Godzilla:

Just became aware of a Tea Party website that is modelled after Drudge:

The Tea Party Movement

Apr 10, 2009 - 2:27 pm 137. Bill:

After the April 15th tea parties are a huge success, there will be another round of demonstrations on July 4th. Find a Independence Day Tea Party near you at http://www.reteaparty.com

Apr 10, 2009 - 3:11 pm 138. one of my own:

125 – Sorry Retard, your call for a truce is not worthy of accommodating. As for answers, ask questions worthy of a response for god’s sake. And please dispense with the Levin references . . . statists! statism! . . . more concepts for conservatives to parrot without understanding. Have an original thought.

“What gives you the right to appropriate my money for yourselves?” It’s called taxation, the progressive kind. You don’t like what it’s being used for? Too bad. Until you give me a refund on the money we spent in Iraq, you’re just gonna have to get used to the idea of your money buying things you don’t believe in. Go to a tea party. You’ll feel better when others around you are whining too.

“If socialism is so great, why aren’t people leaving Miami in the middle of the night and rafting to Cuba?”

Because it’s a bad place. If Democracy’s so great, why aren’t people flocking to Iraq? Isn’t that what we have there now, courtesy of all those purple fingers and grave sites?

As for the American-superpower-founding-fathers-collective-statism Gordian knot you crafted, I suggest you study the Federalist Papers and get back to me when you know how ridiculous and unlettered that question is.

Now, don’t you have some restrictive/nonrestrictive clauses to figure out?

Apr 10, 2009 - 3:59 pm 139. Michael Pugliese:

LIST OF TAX DAY ACTIONS FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15, 2009

List in formation. Updated at http://www.nwtrcc.org/taxday2009.htm.

CALIFORNIA
Bay Area – Northern California War Tax Resistance, http://www.nowartax.org. April 14, 7 – 8 pm: In front of Herbst Theater, where Amy Goodman will be speaking about “Standing Up to the Madness” to help show attendees one way they can stand up. April 15: 6 – 9 am at Glen Park BART, where we will attract the early morning media, and then educate the commuter foot traffic with our display and hand-outs. April 15th, 11 am – 1 pm, at Civic Center Plaza, where we’ll join the “Tea Party” protesters against government waste and pork, while reminding them that the worst examples are found in the military budget. 4 – 6 pm at Balboa Park BART, showing off our new federal spending banner and educating taxpayers about government spending priorities

Apr 10, 2009 - 4:48 pm 140. Sebastian Shaw:

On of my own, people are flocking to the United States of America because Capitalism is the key that breaks the lock of Socialism/Communism/Fascism, etc al.

President Obama is attempting to turn the United States into Europe. The problem is WE are not Europe. We are not Canada. We are unique. Obama will fail precisely due to ignorance, arrogance, & contempt for America. The irony is President Obama represents America as its leader, the Commander-in-Chief.

The Democrats have overreached. President Obama has overreached. The backlash is coming. The Tea Parties are just the beginning.

If you love higher taxes & the Nanny State, why don’t you just move to a Communist Country? You have your choice of Cuba, North Korea, & China. Venezuela is becoming a Nanny State too.

Stand up for your beliefs. Become part of the Collective.

Apr 10, 2009 - 4:58 pm 141. catlee:

I will be at the Tea Party in Downtown Houston. Here we can see a liberal a mile away.

Apr 10, 2009 - 5:38 pm 142. one of my own:

140. Sebastian Shaw: . . . “On of my own, people are flocking to the United States of America because Capitalism is the key that breaks the lock of Socialism/Communism/Fascism, etc al. ‘

Really? I thought it was because of all the free stuff they get. It must be tough for all y’all to keep track of so many different (and contradictory) rationales for your little snits.

Obama has no contempt for America. He has contempt for those who would ignore its greatness in favor of torture, for those who use it to privatize profit and offload risk, for those who prey upon the weakness of others by lying to them about the most dire and important issues of human existence, for people who spend all their time snooping around your e-mails and phone records and creepy crawling around your house when you’re not home. (And you’re worried about big government . . . right.) You should have contempt for them too, but you don’t because you voted for them.

Only an idiot would accuse someone of loving higher taxes. Nobody LIKES taxes. As for moving, I like it here now. I support the president. I am in the party of power. It’s you who are complaining, so it’s you who have to move. My, how things change. Go to your Tea Parties. We’ll be counting the typos in your signs.

We stood up for our beliefs. That’s why Obama is president and the Republicans are living somewhere out in Wyoming.

Apr 10, 2009 - 5:51 pm 143. Meg:

At a traditional rally at our state capitol a few years back, there was a dude with a sign that said “God Hates Fags” . The I immediately recognized a rat and started shouting “Take the sign down.” The crowd joined in. He positioned himself right behind the speakers on the podium ( in camera-shot). My husband took our sign and attempted to stand in front of him and block the guy’s sign from the view of the crowd of families and children. The guy had a camera and was filming as the following conversation ensued.
Husband: Please put that sign down. That’s not what we’re about.
(Dude holds his sign up higher. Husband tried to block it but can’t reach high enough)
Husband. “Please put that sign down,”
Dude.: ( sneering) “Awww. You’re not tall enough ( to block my sign). Why don’t you ask your God to make you taller? Maybe you can get your God to help you grow.
etc. etc.

He eventually left, but it was clear that he was indeed an agent provocateur. There were letters in the local rag a few days from the GLBT community protesting the Chrsitian “haters” at the rally because of that sign. They were probably in cahoots with the guy because, surprisingly, none of the press accounts of the rally mentioned him or showed pictures of his sign. That dude was no Christian, and the people in that crowd were outraged by him.

Apr 10, 2009 - 8:19 pm 144. Mike Blackadder:

#142 – Wow, somebody’s been pushing his buttons. I’ll contribute:

“As for moving, I like it here now. I support the president. I am in the party of power. It’s you who are complaining, so it’s you who have to move.”

NO YOU HAVE TO MOVE! AND YOU HAVE POOPY PANTS!

one of my own, were people ‘creepy crawling around your house’ when you weren’t there? Did it give you the shiveries? Were you like ‘hey, stop looking at my e-mail. I’m not a terrorist”? And when your mother read you children stories would you scream out, “Mother, will you stop torturing me!” And just to get this straight, now it’s bad to ‘privatize profit’ and ‘offload risk’? Is that sort of like having a bad ‘Profit Earnings Ratio’?

Apr 10, 2009 - 8:21 pm 145. Kevin in OK:

I attempted to post a comment on the Huffington Post about an hour ago. I’ve always been civil when posting. I’ve seen other posts come up in the meantime but mine appears to be censored. I tried again about 30 minutes ago. We’ll see what happens.

This was the inflammatory comment, in entirety:

“Racism and birth certificates have absolutely nothing to do with the Tea Party movement. Anyone who claims otherwise is either a nut or they are intentionally spreading disinformation.”

Apr 11, 2009 - 8:04 am 146. Mike Shuster:

Of course it’s also very possible that the extremist element at these events will be actual extremists, rather than supposed ‘provocateurs.’ Which is an inevitable aspect of any protest without a clearly articulated message. For instance, here’s a discussion thread on Stormfront, the biggest white supremacist site on the web, about how to attend the Tea Parties, and what kind of messaging might lure tea party protesters to the wisdom of their cause:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=261d2a2dc81dff2b71ca6664f6e26f17&t=588834

Again, this is inevitable, and not the fault of the tea party organizers. I just think the logic of this post is flawed, in terms of asking ‘who benefits’ from the appearance of extremists at these events and thus assuming the presence of leftist inflitrators. These things always attract a lot of legitimate crazies.

Apr 11, 2009 - 1:50 pm 147. Dave Majors:

Given our disdain and disgust of the MSM- anyone actually letting themselves be interviewed is a liberal.

Apr 11, 2009 - 2:01 pm 148. Northern Light:

I’ve got the answer!

The problem seems to be Obama-loving liberals and Hitler-loving Nazis are going to infiltrate the protests.

All you have to do is keep saying Obama is Hitler.

This will out the liberals as they will be compelled to defend Obama
It will also out the Nazis as they will be compelled to defend Hitler.

Problem solved.

Oh, and #147 Dave Majors, if actual legitimate protesters don’t talk to the MSM, it will leave the mics open for the liberals and Nazis. You really don’t want that. The best solution is to have spokespeople on hand who will talk to the media and keep the nuts away.

Apr 11, 2009 - 3:56 pm 149. Mike2:

142. one of my own:

“Only an idiot would accuse someone of loving higher taxes. Nobody LIKES taxes. As for moving, I like it here now. I support the president. I am in the party of power. It’s you who are complaining, so it’s you who have to move.”

You better get used to liking high taxes because someone has to pay the bills and it sure isn’t going to be me. I am going to drop as far out of the economy as I. You support the president? Good, now you can support him with your pocketbook as well and please, don’t complain.
———————————–
Who is John Galt?

Apr 11, 2009 - 4:00 pm 150. Navas de Tolosa:

Good news for economy challenge. Huffington Post has claim that hundreds of jobs stay unfilled in Obama administration. How long can you hold nose?

Apr 11, 2009 - 5:52 pm 151. Jimmy T.:

My advice is to watch your local/national news outlet and see who they promote as representarive of the local tea party. If it is some leftwing crank, then SLAM them with e-mails objecting to their coverage.

Apr 11, 2009 - 7:49 pm 152. Rev.Rowland:

Are they NUTS? Don’t they know that 2nd amendment defenders will infest these gatherings? I would think twice before crashing a teaparty…. I’ve never been to a protest in my life, but this has to be done. We need history to record our anger at the mis-management of our economy and our future…. not to mention the pirate situation in the Gulf of Aiden.

Apr 11, 2009 - 9:24 pm 153. Northern Light:

152 Rev.Rowland,

“…not to mention the pirate situation in the Gulf of Aiden”

Considering the event is going to be named after an event where a ship was invaded and a cargo was seized this might not be the best time to talk about piracy.

The message is about taxation and government spending. A smart protest sticks to a single message.

Apr 12, 2009 - 5:59 am 154. acj:

I am hosting a tea party and I am from the left. I hesitate even doing this tea party thing, because the republicans got us into this mess.

Apr 12, 2009 - 6:17 am 155. The Historian:

WHY ARE TEA PARTIES IMPORTANT?
THE FREE MARKET VS. THE ASH HEAP
There never has been a Socialist utopia and there never will be one.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/capitalism-not-socialism-will-light.html

Apr 12, 2009 - 7:42 am 156. Sebastian Shaw:

On of my own, you still don’t get it. You demand the Federal Government to be an overlord; therefore, a bigger government takes away our freedoms. This is antithetical to the very foundation which the United States is.

Barack Obama will fail precisely because he does not understand the United States of America & our Constitution. Barack Obama wants to be a dictator or rule instead of govern.

You want to have your cake & eat it too–just like Barack Obama & tax cheat, Tim Geithner. You want a Nanny State, yet you refuse to move to Communist countries which have been Nanny States for decades: North Korea, Cuba, & China.

You’re a hypocrite.

You need to have brain rewashed by the Messiah. Does he charge $19.99 per washing?

Apr 12, 2009 - 12:12 pm 157. Linguist:

To #154: You can thank Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and FDR for this mess. It started long before most of us were even a gleam in our (legal immigrant) parents’ eyes, and has its roots in the same Ivy League “intellectual elite” mentality that once so admired and fawned over Mussolini and that grips the White House today. But although we may be just the unfortunate “beneficiaries” of insidious and nefarious progressivism, we are the ones who can return this country to Her foundations.

As for the Obamanable Bots looking to instill fear with their smarmy mouthings of nothingness, no matter how smart Man thinks he has become, when it comes right down to it there is no free lunch, and those who do not learn from history WILL repeat it. I hate to sound so mean but I do hope that one day you starve long enough to really understand the dangerous lies you so wholeheartedly support.

Apr 12, 2009 - 1:22 pm 158. Julie:

ACJ, do not be worried about Dem vs. Repub. We are all in this together. Remember, the Congress is the real one in control. They were also in control the last few years of the Bush presidency. Nonetheless, both parties must go. Vote everyone out because now it is just one big “good old boys” club. You can’t tell the difference. They are all corrupt.

Apr 12, 2009 - 2:28 pm 159. one of my own:

156. Sebastian Shaw: . . . “Barack Obama will fail precisely because he does not understand the United States of America & our Constitution.”

Now who would you consider to know more about the Constitution, a Harvard law grad and Constitutional scholar or some putz named Sebastian on Pajamas Media? You may disagree with his views on it, but you can hardly say he doesn’t understand the Constitution.

Tell you what, when we need an educated opinion on, I don’t know, the best truck stop on the road to Winnemucca, we’ll ask your advice.

Apr 12, 2009 - 5:31 pm 160. Creeps, Inc.:

I’m so sick of people equating libertarianism with conservatism. Glenn Beck might have some libertarian beliefs, but he’s no libertarian. These so-called “tea parties” are nothing but social conservative christ-bots who are upset they lost the culture wars and ignorant of the fact that this has been a socialist country since the 1930s. I’m certainly no Obama fan, but I’ll be staying home while the leftists and evolution-deniers spar at legal demonstrations. Some revolution.

Apr 12, 2009 - 5:32 pm 161. one of my own:

#11 one of my own . . . wrote “Laughable. Republicans don’t have the stones for sustained resistance. You have no experience in it. You’re soft. This Tea Party crap has all the weight of a Fox News Alert. It’s not a movement it’s marketing event, the Twitter protests. ”

Crazy, right? Check it out:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/08/tea-party-protests-create-online-sales-boom/

Apr 12, 2009 - 5:58 pm 162. frank:

Paranoia runs deep…

Apr 12, 2009 - 6:28 pm 163. Meryl:

75 One of My Own….”It’s impossible to underestimate you. As for “they will be very sorry they did” that sounds like the ramblings of a small man ignored by life and threatening revenge for his insignificance.”

You pretty much nailed in this comment what your boy obama did last week in threatening the bank officers with the pitchforks.

Like you say, obama is indeed a small man….threatening revenge for his insignificance. Your projection explains a lot about your chosen leader. Thanks.

Apr 12, 2009 - 9:46 pm 164. one of my own:

163 Meryl . . . Your connections have always been at best tenuous when they actually existed at all, but this last post shows you’ve come completely unravelled. Perhaps you should take a little thought vacation. You know, rest the brain stem before you drift into a permanent fugue state.

Apr 12, 2009 - 9:52 pm 165. myth buster:

one of my own, you are just spouting logical fallacy after logical fallacy. Who knows more about the Constitution? Obama hasn’t shown he knows anything about the Constitution, since he has claimed nearly dictatorial powers since taking office (admittedly Bush did give him a bit of a head start). Referring to his Law Degree is an Appeal to Authority, not a valid line of support.

Likewise, responding to “what gives you the right to reach into my pocket?” with progressive taxation is an is-ought fallacy. You are offering no justification for your position, but rather merely saying it should be this way because it currently is this way.

Apr 13, 2009 - 2:29 pm 166. SplendidOne:

That’s pretty funny: “Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters.” I’d say the lefties are practicing already, by posting here pretending to be extreme characters. Heck, from the posts above, it seems like most of the people here must then be lefties

Apr 13, 2009 - 2:47 pm 167. TEA PARTY DIRECTORIES ALL-IN-ONE (update 4/14/09) « FactReal:

[...] Infiltration: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left: It’s not time to back down, it’s time to prepare for such an infiltration. “ACORN and the Huffington Post are planning to infiltrate the Tea Parties…trying to make the Tea Party movement seem to be what it’s not, painting libertarians as racists or similar nonsense, well, that deserves to be exposed and countered vigorously. So my recommendation to Tea Party demonstrators…Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters and then ask yourself: Is that real? Is that person who he or she says he is? Cui bono, who profits, here from what they are saying or doing? Draw your conclusions (carefully!) and then act accordingly and completely within the law.” [...]

Apr 13, 2009 - 9:18 pm 168. Sensei Mitch:

Since we know the email address for the reports and the photos why don’t we flood their inbox with (clean) stories and photos (perhaps of acorn events on file)? This will cost them in time and aggrivatiion and if we are lucky will fill their inbox so “real” reports can’t get in…

After all that is what *they* would do the Right/Americans need to start fighting on the terms set by the Left/Socialists/Communists/Environmentalists. Until we do we will be nothing more than bleating sheep complaining about the unfairness of it all…which is how we became disenfranchised.

Just my 2 cents.

Apr 14, 2009 - 4:19 am 169. Jim Alger:

So let me get this straight… You are upset because of a tax that hasn’t even been put before congress? This tax would bring rates back to where they were in 2000, from 36% to 39% for the wealthiest of Americans (Those making OVER 250K a year AFTER write-offs). This is such an obvious false issue campaign it isn’t even funny.

Obama’s budget includes the costs of the war, something our previous President conveniently left out.

Look, I will admit I support Obama… because the GOP hasn’t come up with any workable ideas and there aren’t any on the table. If Obama fails, our country fails… period. I wish they would be the party of loyal opposition, making our nation stronger by challenging our leaders. That is always a good thing. But the Republicans ruled by ignoring the Dems after the closest election in history. Frankly, you should be glad they give you the time of day. Now, it is one attack after the next with artificial stories (like “cutting” the military when they ADDED 28 Billion to the pentagon budget). It just burns you guys up that Obama seems to have a handle on things and in the end, that is what this is all about. You hate Obama, hate the Democrats and want this country to fail so that you can regain control of Congress. You know that if Obama and the Dems pull this off, and our nation recovers as it APPEARS to be beginning to do, you can kiss control of Congress goodbye for decades. That is why you are getting desperate.

I don’t take issue with your “protest,” I take issue with your dishonesty in what it is you are truly protesting and why.

Apr 14, 2009 - 10:34 am 170. patty:

wow, a bit paranoid.

Apr 14, 2009 - 10:38 am 171. Gary:

I remember being so proud to be a Republican. Now I’m embarassed to admit I ever drank the Kool Aid. You guys are so out of touch today you don’t even realize the departure you’ve taken from reality.

And Google “teabagging.” Nice choice of phrase.

Where, oh where, did logic, common sense, and a grasp on reality ever go?

Apr 14, 2009 - 10:41 am 172. Sherry:

Sure seems like the USA is going from a Great Democracy to being a Socialist country.

Apr 14, 2009 - 10:56 am 173. Maya:

If, under Obama, the country returns to a state of personal responsibility, community, inclusiveness, conscience, then people who prospered under the rule of greed, avarice, dishonesty, and divisiveness will lose their way. They must fight against these changes with all their might lest they lose themselves (or the self they’ve come to identify with). This is a very frightening prospect for anyone regardless of political party.

Apr 14, 2009 - 11:01 am 174. Mary:

The only action that the Obama administration has taken on taxes so far, is to cut income taxes on 95% of workers in this country. He will propose to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans from 36% to 39% – exactly what it was under Clinton. Both of these actions he talked about during his campaign. You know, before the majority of voters elected him in November.
He still has the overwhelming support of the majority of Americans. He has shown toughness and resolve when needed, and is an inspiring example of how to be a loving husband and devoted father.
So, go ahead and teabag each other, folks. You look (and sound) pathetic, deluded and irrelevent.

Apr 14, 2009 - 11:03 am 175. E.Lo:

What’s sad is that everyone on here is so afraid of the left “infiltrating”. The only reason anyone from the left is even interested in the tea party protests is because they are afraid of the sweeping anti-intellectualism that we saw in Sarah Palin and in her supporters. People who equivocate a good degree with liberalism, and thus it must be wrong. Everyone on the left is afraid of this because it’s viral. It spreads, and when people believe willingly what Fox and the GOP spoonfeed them, it demonstrates this lack of critical thinking that this nation truly needs. Republicans ignore the facts: there is no silent majority, as there are fewer Republicans and more democrats now than at the end of the Nixon Administration. The tax “hikes” on the richest 1% are still 10% lower than the rates under Reagan. And the economic mess that we are in is a direct result of Bush’s economic idiocy and fiscal irresponsibility. Please don’t think that the left is afraid of the movement, because there is nothing in the movement itself to be afraid of. It’s the conspiracy laden, anti-intellectual, anti-scientific anything, Glenn Beck listening right wingers who make up the protests that we worry about.

Apr 14, 2009 - 11:29 am 176. chhintz:

No, keep on defending the guys with the multimillion dollar salaries. Keep on defending corporate interests. You’ve been doing it for years, no need to stop now. Keep it up young teabagger! Go out there and make an ass out of yourself.

When you get home from your little rally staring such notable and trustworthy politicians as Tom Delay and whore lover David Vitter, reflect on what you got accomplished. Think real hard because it’s going to be difficult.

Sound and fury, signifying… nothing.

Apr 14, 2009 - 12:12 pm 177. shamanati:

Awwwww… Isn’t it cute when the Right-wing folks organize an Astroturf, er, I mean “grassroots” protest? LOL… Where were all these folks when Bush the Lesser was running our economy into the GROUND and creating the huge mess that Obama’s now working hard to clean up? Puh-leeeeeeeze….

Apr 14, 2009 - 12:17 pm 178. Pat J:

I take issue with the whole idea of this being some sort of “grassroots” protest. When I hear about such people as Dick Armey, Steve Forbes, Newt Gingrich and others throwing their financial support behind these demostrations, I worry. Look closely at such entities as FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity and you see people who are not behind the average working class individual.

Seems to me like it’s the protesters who are etting “teabagged” by GOP Corporate interests.

Apr 14, 2009 - 1:05 pm 179. Zach:

This is the funniest thing I have seen in awhile. Right wingers trying to protest something, it is just sad. They can’t even protest something that a Democrat has done, only protesting tax rates created by the Bush Administration. The guy they worship and would kiss the very feet he walks on.

Keep trying their right wingers. Don’t worry, we won’t make too much fun of you, despite the fact that your protest involves a lot of teabagging…but isn’t that an act that is immoral?

Apr 14, 2009 - 1:33 pm 180. proudliberalfem:

The rightwingers are just confirming what we already know…they’re uncaring, non-thinking anti-democracy idiots. They are angry, bitter, anti-women, anti-gay losers. They don’t care about this country and certainly not the citizens who look differently than they do. But, it is your bitchin’, moanin’, and whinin’ that got Pres. Obama elected. So, keep up the histrionics. It makes us Dems very happy!!

Apr 14, 2009 - 1:50 pm 181. lexi:

I’m not sure what the tea baggin followers really know about what exactly they are following. They are so desperate for leadership and all they have is Limbaugh,Beck(looney toon) & the one I like to call “rosemary’s baby”Newt Gingrich..ick!! Ok right wingers how about you follow our President,hmm. He’s not going to use you up then have you follow him over a cliff, that’s exactly what “Faux noise” is doing. Tea party my a@#. Give me a break.

Apr 14, 2009 - 1:55 pm 182. Tara:

I am struck that conservatives are promoting the idea that any crazies at their “protests” are automatically liberals seeking to make conservatives look bad. Besides the fact that there are plenty of conservative crazies out there (see any Palin rallies from ‘08 or Glenn Beck) without any liberal help, this strikes me as awfully smart PR: by warning in advance of the so-called liberal party-crashers, conservatives can disavow any connection to violence or craziness that takes place tomorrow. Well-played. Let’s just hope the media doesn’t fall for it.

Apr 14, 2009 - 2:39 pm 183. Roger L. Simon » Tea Party Derangement Syndrome - it’s here!:

[...] You all remember Bush Derangement Syndrome when George W. Bush was blamed for virtually everything that went wrong from the Iraq War to your leaking faucet? [It hasn't really gone away.-ed. I know. I know. Maybe in 40 or 50 years] Well, we now have the arrival of a new phenomenon we can call Tea Party Derangement Syndrome. In TPDS tea party participants are accused of everything from being closet racists to armchair Timothy McVeighs. You can see some amusing examples of this emerging syndrome in the latter comments to my post of the other day – Tea Party role reversal: how to deal with agent provocateurs from the left. [...]

Apr 14, 2009 - 3:20 pm 184. Rob:

We all know….Republican’s only believe in TAX BREAKS for big business alone, with the included write-offs. Pretend they are against abortion(8 years of nothing-HA) with so-called support (BACK ALLEY,COAT HANGER). Use religion (the lowest of lows) to control, using so-called religious leaders, to steal from the mindless followers……just a note to you weak, mindless souls – your soul doesn’t forgive and forget your sins…you take them with you!! Do yourself a favor…wake-up your soul(born agains are in a FALSE state-of-mind) and get to work, you can be a part to better this world…don’t let them use you as a slave!!

Apr 14, 2009 - 5:50 pm 185. Drew:

The left errs by assuming this is a Republican cause. The left (if they care to pay attention) may be surprised to find that Republicans who supported the Stimulus bill, Wall Street bailouts or this crazy budget are also being called to order by the tea-partiers.

Apr 14, 2009 - 6:05 pm 186. Scott Miller:

I’m not sure how this infiltration thing would work. Like, if somone was going to do it, the goal would be to make the protest look bad, right? Well since the attendees of past teabagging parties attracted people that want to secede from the nation (um, isn’t that un-american?), burn books, pull their kids out of school, etc, I’m not sure what someone would have to do to make it look worse? That they wouldn’t go to prison for. I support protests, and I support the fox news tea parties, I just can’t figure out what they are about.

Apr 14, 2009 - 6:21 pm 187. James Stephenson:

For God’s sake people. It is not about current tax rates. It is about future tax rates my children will have to pay.

In 3 months our current President has spent more than spend crazy Bush did in 8 freaking years. If we keep this up, our country will be bankrupt. How can you even defend this crap?

You are spending future earnings of our children now. Just kissing that money away. Any boomers out there supporting this nonsense should wake up if you are hoping Social Security is going to be your retirement. Because at the current spending rates, there will be a hell of a lot less money for social security.

Are over all tax rates too high, sure. But this is about spending.

You don’t pay off credit cards with other credit cards unless you just want to owe money the rest of your life, and I don’t want to see the United States do this. It has nothing to do with Liberal, Conservative.

Just good sense. Common sense.

Apr 15, 2009 - 5:44 am 188. Tea party crashers « Idea Anaconda:

[...] nationwide

Apr 15, 2009 - 9:50 am 189. TEA PARTY DIRECTORIES ALL-IN-ONE…& Spending Facts (update 4/15/09) « FactReal:

[...] Infiltration: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left: It’s not time to back down, it’s time to prepare for such an infiltration. “ACORN and the Huffington Post are planning to infiltrate the Tea Parties…trying to make the Tea Party movement seem to be what it’s not, painting libertarians as racists or similar nonsense, well, that deserves to be exposed and countered vigorously. So my recommendation to Tea Party demonstrators…Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters and then ask yourself: Is that real? Is that person who he or she says he is? Cui bono, who profits, here from what they are saying or doing? Draw your conclusions (carefully!) and then act accordingly and completely within the law.” [...]

Apr 15, 2009 - 12:07 pm 190. ULTRAVIOLET RAYS:

JUST THINK ABOUT IT…

You need to call your wife and tell her you won’t be attending any Tea Parties.

Think about the reason why they want to impose this tax in the first place. Most likely. it’s because our economy is headed for one of the biggest post-war recessions in history.

Think about putting a price on the life of your child who is over in Iraq or in South America fighting the “War On Drugs”. Do you think the corporations connected with government officials that are financing these wars care about the life of your loved one or other military people that are dying? Of course not, but they care about their money.

This tax will essentially put the burden of paying for these wars on the politicians who are connected with the corporations financing them in the first place. In addition, it will reduce the risk of our economy going into a Great depression. Afterall, we don’t want to repeat mistakes from our history.

Apr 19, 2009 - 8:53 am 191. Cleats:

No tax increase by Obama, Really? $1.5 trillion in new spending equals about $14,000 for married/joint and about $7,000 for singles. Based on IRS ffigures. About 103 million Individual tax returns, 25% of them don’t pay any tax or pay almost none. I wouldn’t expect Obamarama to make them pay any. which break down to 60% married, 40% single. (so if you can’t figure it, 2 married plus 1 single equals three, divide the debt by three, married pays twice, singles one.) Oh and if you think Obamarama will just tax the rich, the folks over $250,000 Thy’d have to pay $77,000! You think that’ll happen?

Oh and the debt isn’t 1.5 trillion, the new spending (but not noramal day to day operations) is now at 4.5 trillion and more on its way, That’s $42,000 for marrieds, $21,000 for singles. This in addition to a the taxes you’re paying now. Does any liberal remember dissing Bush for last years tax rebate? I remember all the liberal media columnists following the brainwashed DNC bulletin and deissing the rebate check. But that rebate check is double the Obamarama show’s tax cut (to 95% of Americans. This doesn’t even count socialized health care care for someone else, which is gonna cost you 6,000 – 10,000 a year, every year for the rest of your life. and The Social security and Medicat=id???. That is what the Tea Party is all about, Moderates like me voted for change, not taxation without representation. Health care costs for everyone? Look at OPM.gov to see what the health care (total cost) is for federal employees. These are the group rates that the US Government has negotiated and remember that the government share and the employee share are what you have to Pay. Go to IRS and look up the tax filing info. They have it listed by group, by several methods. The bottom line is that working people like you and me, liberal, moderates, and conservatives are gonna have to pay, forever, their ass off. Just how much and how long are we gonna have to Pay and Pay. The idea, Barack’s Idea, that the economy will sweeten up and it’ll be good is the same idea that these mortgage spculators have been using. See where that got us–into this discussion. You folks need to quit the politics and look at the reality of Life in the US

Apr 19, 2009 - 11:58 pm 192. TEA PARTY DIRECTORIES ALL-IN-ONE…& Facts (update 4/30/09) « FactReal:

[...] Infiltration: how to deal with potential agents provocateurs from the left: It’s not time to back down, it’s time to prepare for such an infiltration. “ACORN and the Huffington Post are planning to infiltrate the Tea Parties…trying to make the Tea Party movement seem to be what it’s not, painting libertarians as racists or similar nonsense, well, that deserves to be exposed and countered vigorously. So my recommendation to Tea Party demonstrators…Keep your eye out for the most extreme characters and then ask yourself: Is that real? Is that person who he or she says he is? Cui bono, who profits, here from what they are saying or doing? Draw your conclusions (carefully!) and then act accordingly and completely within the law.” [...]

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