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		<title>By: huckleberry fin</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/10/22/life-on-the-upper-left-side/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>huckleberry fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so instead of setting up a table, or talking one on one, the campaign workers &quot;marched&quot; upon a &quot;family event&quot;. then when they freely achieved their confrontational goal (thanks to freedom of speech)you cry that they got boos and fingers(someone elses free speech).  

so you wanted to poop on a picnic AND get thanked for it. 

and that didnt happen?

poor thing.

I suggest you read Dale Carnegies &quot;how to win friends and influence people&quot;  because you simply lack people skills.  

but you can learn if you want to.

Now the rest of us are going to enjoy our picnic. You have a choice, you can stomp your feet and hold your breath or you can go do your homework, think about what you did, and when your ready to appreciate your neigbors and learn something new come join the picnic. 

its up to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so instead of setting up a table, or talking one on one, the campaign workers &#8220;marched&#8221; upon a &#8220;family event&#8221;. then when they freely achieved their confrontational goal (thanks to freedom of speech)you cry that they got boos and fingers(someone elses free speech).  </p>
<p>so you wanted to poop on a picnic AND get thanked for it. </p>
<p>and that didnt happen?</p>
<p>poor thing.</p>
<p>I suggest you read Dale Carnegies &#8220;how to win friends and influence people&#8221;  because you simply lack people skills.  </p>
<p>but you can learn if you want to.</p>
<p>Now the rest of us are going to enjoy our picnic. You have a choice, you can stomp your feet and hold your breath or you can go do your homework, think about what you did, and when your ready to appreciate your neigbors and learn something new come join the picnic. </p>
<p>its up to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Shinobi</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/10/22/life-on-the-upper-left-side/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Shinobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel compelled to point out that booing, flicking off, shouting chanting and generally throwing tantrums, while not exactly mature and intellectual discourse, infringe on no one&#039;s civil liberties.

McCain supporters have a right to free speech.  Expressing (even rudely) one&#039;s disagreement is also an act of free speech and infringes on no one&#039;s rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel compelled to point out that booing, flicking off, shouting chanting and generally throwing tantrums, while not exactly mature and intellectual discourse, infringe on no one&#8217;s civil liberties.</p>
<p>McCain supporters have a right to free speech.  Expressing (even rudely) one&#8217;s disagreement is also an act of free speech and infringes on no one&#8217;s rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pharo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Pharo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all seriousness, is this meant as parody?  These liberals who yell, shout and call these provacateurs names are denying civil liberties?  Can&#039;t believe this is meant seriously...

And what&#039;s with all the animus directed at college faculty.  You say &quot;faculty&quot; like it&#039;s a bad thing.

By the way, the equivalent of people yelling at &quot;treason, &quot;terrorist, &quot;etc., at Palin and McCain events would be if people at Biden and Obama rallies called out &quot;Flashback,&quot; &quot;Collaborator&quot; and &quot;baby killer&quot; referring to McCain. 

You guys either should publish with National Lampoon or make some friends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all seriousness, is this meant as parody?  These liberals who yell, shout and call these provacateurs names are denying civil liberties?  Can&#8217;t believe this is meant seriously&#8230;</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with all the animus directed at college faculty.  You say &#8220;faculty&#8221; like it&#8217;s a bad thing.</p>
<p>By the way, the equivalent of people yelling at &#8220;treason, &#8220;terrorist, &#8220;etc., at Palin and McCain events would be if people at Biden and Obama rallies called out &#8220;Flashback,&#8221; &#8220;Collaborator&#8221; and &#8220;baby killer&#8221; referring to McCain. </p>
<p>You guys either should publish with National Lampoon or make some friends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see you &quot;on station&quot; , Mr.Radosh- I have been reading you for yrs and recall the 60s very clearly- no jokes about forgetting/zombied out , allowed- our generations&#039; narcissism and dearth of a sense of integrity or shame is clearly on display in this &quot;election&quot;...I wonder what the unelected and unrepresentative &quot;elites&quot; in Brussels are thinking- namely, that they may just &quot;get away&quot; with their perfidy? &#039;Tis chilling to contemplate...be well and write copiously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you &#8220;on station&#8221; , Mr.Radosh- I have been reading you for yrs and recall the 60s very clearly- no jokes about forgetting/zombied out , allowed- our generations&#8217; narcissism and dearth of a sense of integrity or shame is clearly on display in this &#8220;election&#8221;&#8230;I wonder what the unelected and unrepresentative &#8220;elites&#8221; in Brussels are thinking- namely, that they may just &#8220;get away&#8221; with their perfidy? &#8216;Tis chilling to contemplate&#8230;be well and write copiously.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/ronradosh/2008/10/22/life-on-the-upper-left-side/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internet&#039;s anger at the Mainstream Media is real and massive, Mr. Radosh.  For one thing, there have been numerous examples of MSM lies with regard to the recent Lebanon/Israel war, as well as throughout the Iraqi war.  

And more recently, as many people like me have been reading the attacks on Sarah Palin, the sneers and condescension at Joe the Plumber, we are very aware that the journalists (TV as well as print) who work in the large urban centres throughout the Western World despise people like me, and like Sarah Palin and like Joe the Plumber.

I had not been aware of this, and had enjoyed reading the clever Hitchens and Brooks essays, and even purchased their books.  Well, no more.

And as a purely catty aside:  Couric&#039;s attempt at sneering anti-Palin irony, by adopting Palin&#039;s hairdo the other night was a definite mistake:  the word is &#039;bedraggled&#039;, Katie.  You looked bedraggled, and your hair and your fairly aged face does not have the oomph to pull off Sarah&#039;s look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet&#8217;s anger at the Mainstream Media is real and massive, Mr. Radosh.  For one thing, there have been numerous examples of MSM lies with regard to the recent Lebanon/Israel war, as well as throughout the Iraqi war.  </p>
<p>And more recently, as many people like me have been reading the attacks on Sarah Palin, the sneers and condescension at Joe the Plumber, we are very aware that the journalists (TV as well as print) who work in the large urban centres throughout the Western World despise people like me, and like Sarah Palin and like Joe the Plumber.</p>
<p>I had not been aware of this, and had enjoyed reading the clever Hitchens and Brooks essays, and even purchased their books.  Well, no more.</p>
<p>And as a purely catty aside:  Couric&#8217;s attempt at sneering anti-Palin irony, by adopting Palin&#8217;s hairdo the other night was a definite mistake:  the word is &#8216;bedraggled&#8217;, Katie.  You looked bedraggled, and your hair and your fairly aged face does not have the oomph to pull off Sarah&#8217;s look.</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Colin Powell’s strange assertion that leading Republicans have suggested that Barcak Cobama (Obama) is a Muslim and a terrorist.&quot;

There is zero evidence to support Colin Powell&#039;s &quot;strange assertion.&quot;  Is he therefore a liar?  No, I don&#039;t think so.  The problem is that Powell resides within a cultural milieu surrounded by those who are minimally careless about the truth, if not outright liars. Sadly, if folks like our former U.S. secretary of state bothered to do even casual research---they would know the truth of the matter.  Why are they then so intellectual lazy?  Didn&#039;t they usually attend the &quot;best&quot; universities?  What happened to their supposed advanced ability to think and follow a logical argument?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Colin Powell’s strange assertion that leading Republicans have suggested that Barcak Cobama (Obama) is a Muslim and a terrorist.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is zero evidence to support Colin Powell&#8217;s &#8220;strange assertion.&#8221;  Is he therefore a liar?  No, I don&#8217;t think so.  The problem is that Powell resides within a cultural milieu surrounded by those who are minimally careless about the truth, if not outright liars. Sadly, if folks like our former U.S. secretary of state bothered to do even casual research&#8212;they would know the truth of the matter.  Why are they then so intellectual lazy?  Didn&#8217;t they usually attend the &#8220;best&#8221; universities?  What happened to their supposed advanced ability to think and follow a logical argument?</p>
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		<title>By: cfbleachers</title>
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		<dc:creator>cfbleachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirchick is correct, of course.  On numerous counts.  Yet, he does not go far enough in his analysis.  What Kirchick states sub rosa, is a &quot;you do it too&quot; argument.  It points at hypocrisy, but it perhaps unintentionally admits to an equilibrium that simply does not exist.

Trying to compare, on equal footing, one anonymous, fuzzy, muffled, unclear and undecipherable blurt-out by &quot;someone&quot; at a campaign rally...with an institutionalized, relentless, unfettered and seemingly endless orgy of slander on the other, is to be either too generous, too coy or too disingenuous to take at face value.

Saying &lt;i? something &lt;/i&gt;, I suppose, is better than standing silent.  For that, we owe a debt of gratitude and kudos.  The loneliness of the courage of even that mild rebuke, belies the fact that we all are in the cortege of traditional liberalism and the values that it once wore proudly.

And therein lies the whole of it.  When it takes monumental courage to speak the truth, when one can only muster a peep when a shout is demanded, when honor and integrity catch in one&#039;s throat, the soul is at war with itself.

The institutionalized &quot;rigging&quot; of this contest, the orgy of lies and misdirections, the basic foundations of slander, the utter lack of conscience and good faith, the glaring omissions and the crooked &quot;gaming&quot; of our information upon which we must rely in order to act as participants in our own governance...is no small sin.

How does one celebrate a &quot;fixed&quot; win?  What is the protocol for a festival of lies triumph?  With whom does hypocrisy dance?  In an orgy of deceit, who pays the piper?

I&#039;m afraid we all do, even the disinvited.  

Spread the cost, there is no wealth when conscience dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirchick is correct, of course.  On numerous counts.  Yet, he does not go far enough in his analysis.  What Kirchick states sub rosa, is a &#8220;you do it too&#8221; argument.  It points at hypocrisy, but it perhaps unintentionally admits to an equilibrium that simply does not exist.</p>
<p>Trying to compare, on equal footing, one anonymous, fuzzy, muffled, unclear and undecipherable blurt-out by &#8220;someone&#8221; at a campaign rally&#8230;with an institutionalized, relentless, unfettered and seemingly endless orgy of slander on the other, is to be either too generous, too coy or too disingenuous to take at face value.</p>
<p>Saying &lt;i? something , I suppose, is better than standing silent.  For that, we owe a debt of gratitude and kudos.  The loneliness of the courage of even that mild rebuke, belies the fact that we all are in the cortege of traditional liberalism and the values that it once wore proudly.</p>
<p>And therein lies the whole of it.  When it takes monumental courage to speak the truth, when one can only muster a peep when a shout is demanded, when honor and integrity catch in one&#8217;s throat, the soul is at war with itself.</p>
<p>The institutionalized &#8220;rigging&#8221; of this contest, the orgy of lies and misdirections, the basic foundations of slander, the utter lack of conscience and good faith, the glaring omissions and the crooked &#8220;gaming&#8221; of our information upon which we must rely in order to act as participants in our own governance&#8230;is no small sin.</p>
<p>How does one celebrate a &#8220;fixed&#8221; win?  What is the protocol for a festival of lies triumph?  With whom does hypocrisy dance?  In an orgy of deceit, who pays the piper?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid we all do, even the disinvited.  </p>
<p>Spread the cost, there is no wealth when conscience dies.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also lived on 112 &amp; rsd from 1975-1991. I graduated from columbia gs 86.

I have not returned. I did go to Bolinger&#039;s talk to alumni earlier this year in the Ronald Reagan building downtown. Bolinger was concerned that alumn donations would fall. People were outraged by columbia hosting the iranian president but thought the border guy was beyond the pale. 

There&#039;s a contingent of conservative alum at freerepublic.com currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also lived on 112 &amp; rsd from 1975-1991. I graduated from columbia gs 86.</p>
<p>I have not returned. I did go to Bolinger&#8217;s talk to alumni earlier this year in the Ronald Reagan building downtown. Bolinger was concerned that alumn donations would fall. People were outraged by columbia hosting the iranian president but thought the border guy was beyond the pale. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a contingent of conservative alum at freerepublic.com currently.</p>
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