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		<title>By: Sesso</title>
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		<description>Great site.</description>
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		<title>By: artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ella.. your wrong.. the reason is that they were VERY successful with lukacks and franfurt school in the west...  

we still think that the false goodness they gave us, is ours.  free love was from lenin, so was no fault divore, and abortion on demand.  the list goes on. 

and msot dont know the franfurt school... and which ones went to hollyweird to float their agenda in films. (it was pretty easy, either you write to show the communist thing embedded in it, or they back some other project. with 60 tonns of gold, and 45 years of unsold diamonds, they had more than enouhg to do this. ever notice that j jonah jamsson of spiderman is karl marxs fat cat? and that poor spideys cover cant manage to be a capatalist and sell his photos to a competing paper for a lot of money instead of taking waht the fat cat gives him with abuse? 

how about the movie ANTZ... where parents laugh at the campiness... but no one is explaining it to the children... who are beng raised on utopian fare and no morality. 

how about the move from uplifting art and classical music and art forms, to debasing ones? that is soviet realizm... 

i knew we were in trouble when they put a sculpture at rockerfeler center, a spike into the sky with people walking upwards.. yet no one knew its a copy of a famous soviet era piece of art. 

we are about to return to feudalism...

thats the CHANGE we are gettign... 

capitalism imprisoned the rulers as slaves to the people. 

socialism will free the rulers to once again make slave OF the people. 

when they refer to peace and more freedom, they are revering to marx no peace till no opposition to socialism/communism and total control, and that THEY will be free again. they are talking to each other, not us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ella.. your wrong.. the reason is that they were VERY successful with lukacks and franfurt school in the west&#8230;  </p>
<p>we still think that the false goodness they gave us, is ours.  free love was from lenin, so was no fault divore, and abortion on demand.  the list goes on. </p>
<p>and msot dont know the franfurt school&#8230; and which ones went to hollyweird to float their agenda in films. (it was pretty easy, either you write to show the communist thing embedded in it, or they back some other project. with 60 tonns of gold, and 45 years of unsold diamonds, they had more than enouhg to do this. ever notice that j jonah jamsson of spiderman is karl marxs fat cat? and that poor spideys cover cant manage to be a capatalist and sell his photos to a competing paper for a lot of money instead of taking waht the fat cat gives him with abuse? </p>
<p>how about the movie ANTZ&#8230; where parents laugh at the campiness&#8230; but no one is explaining it to the children&#8230; who are beng raised on utopian fare and no morality. </p>
<p>how about the move from uplifting art and classical music and art forms, to debasing ones? that is soviet realizm&#8230; </p>
<p>i knew we were in trouble when they put a sculpture at rockerfeler center, a spike into the sky with people walking upwards.. yet no one knew its a copy of a famous soviet era piece of art. </p>
<p>we are about to return to feudalism&#8230;</p>
<p>thats the CHANGE we are gettign&#8230; </p>
<p>capitalism imprisoned the rulers as slaves to the people. </p>
<p>socialism will free the rulers to once again make slave OF the people. </p>
<p>when they refer to peace and more freedom, they are revering to marx no peace till no opposition to socialism/communism and total control, and that THEY will be free again. they are talking to each other, not us.</p>
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		<title>By: artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kabud: the reason there was a cold war was because thats what america was doing... when you ahve a crazy brother who attacks the family, you hold em down.. you dont kill em. 

we held them down.. they are still, working towrds the end of the west, and world communism.. the chinese said so last week, and gorby has always said it... and putin being a kgb man, well, same with that... Iran calling them soviet in recent weeks should wake you up. 

too much to show you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kabud: the reason there was a cold war was because thats what america was doing&#8230; when you ahve a crazy brother who attacks the family, you hold em down.. you dont kill em. </p>
<p>we held them down.. they are still, working towrds the end of the west, and world communism.. the chinese said so last week, and gorby has always said it&#8230; and putin being a kgb man, well, same with that&#8230; Iran calling them soviet in recent weeks should wake you up. </p>
<p>too much to show you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;imani,
In one of the most courageous acts in human history, the Red Army destroyed Nazi Germany - stopping them in Mosocw, beating them in Stalingrad and across the Eastern Front, liberating Auschwitz, and taking Belin - despite unprecedented losses and unimaginable self-sacrifice.

Joe Stalin was their leader.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;SOVIET RAPES IN BERLIN: UNKNOWN TOTAL

 

The official figures for Berlin rapes by Soviet troops does exist but has never been published. However, Berlin’s former mayor, Ernst Reuter, said that the figure given him was 90,000.  In 1945, Berlin had a population of some 2,700,000 of which about 2,000,000 were women. Many rapes of course were never reported and the figure of 90,000 includes only hospitalized cases and doctors reports. Some 10,000 women in Berlin died as a result of rape.  The death rate was thought to have been much higher among the 1.4 million estimated victims in East Prussia, Silesia and Pomerania. Doctors were besieged by women seeking information on the best way to commit suicide. A charity institution, orphanage and maternity hospital, &#039;Haus Dehlem &#039; was forcibly entered by second line Russian troops and pregnant women and women who had just given birth were repeatedly raped. In the Soviet Zone of Germany nearly 90% of females ages between 10 and 80 were raped in what undoubtedly was the largest case of mass rape in history. This included women expelled from the eastern provinces. 

Most German children born in Berlin in 1946 were the result of rape. Women and young girls were forcibly dragged from their homes and raped, the drunken Soviet Mongolian soldiers queuing up to await their turn. For two whole weeks these mass rapes of women continued. Some Jewish women, thinking that their nationality would save them, showed their identity cards to the rapists but none of them could even read. Marshal Zhukov issued orders that any soldier caught in the act of rape after the two week period was up, was to be shot on the spot. Many a Russian soldier met his end this way. Between 1942 and 1945, a total of 2,420 rapes were reported in England, 3,620 in France and more than 11,040 in Germany. No US soldier was ever executed for rape in Germany. As one GI wrote &#039; Many a sane American family would recoil in horror if they knew how &#039;our boys&#039; over here conduct themselves&#039;. The only way many German mothers could keep their children from starving was to become a mistress to one of the occupying troops. (It is estimated that around two million German women had undergone an illegal abortion in the three years after the war ended)
&lt;/b&gt;

they also raped their own women in the camps... and jewish women... 

and it wasnt courageous... the GRU and KGB had their own forces... the KGB forces were behind the GRU forces... the troops were conscripted, and if they turned around, the KGB forces killed them. 

with that method, you would fight for them too. you either went forward, and killed and did it for them, or they killed or tortured you to death.. (or your family).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>imani,<br />
In one of the most courageous acts in human history, the Red Army destroyed Nazi Germany &#8211; stopping them in Mosocw, beating them in Stalingrad and across the Eastern Front, liberating Auschwitz, and taking Belin &#8211; despite unprecedented losses and unimaginable self-sacrifice.</p>
<p>Joe Stalin was their leader.</i></p>
<p><b>SOVIET RAPES IN BERLIN: UNKNOWN TOTAL</p>
<p>The official figures for Berlin rapes by Soviet troops does exist but has never been published. However, Berlin’s former mayor, Ernst Reuter, said that the figure given him was 90,000.  In 1945, Berlin had a population of some 2,700,000 of which about 2,000,000 were women. Many rapes of course were never reported and the figure of 90,000 includes only hospitalized cases and doctors reports. Some 10,000 women in Berlin died as a result of rape.  The death rate was thought to have been much higher among the 1.4 million estimated victims in East Prussia, Silesia and Pomerania. Doctors were besieged by women seeking information on the best way to commit suicide. A charity institution, orphanage and maternity hospital, &#8216;Haus Dehlem &#8216; was forcibly entered by second line Russian troops and pregnant women and women who had just given birth were repeatedly raped. In the Soviet Zone of Germany nearly 90% of females ages between 10 and 80 were raped in what undoubtedly was the largest case of mass rape in history. This included women expelled from the eastern provinces. </p>
<p>Most German children born in Berlin in 1946 were the result of rape. Women and young girls were forcibly dragged from their homes and raped, the drunken Soviet Mongolian soldiers queuing up to await their turn. For two whole weeks these mass rapes of women continued. Some Jewish women, thinking that their nationality would save them, showed their identity cards to the rapists but none of them could even read. Marshal Zhukov issued orders that any soldier caught in the act of rape after the two week period was up, was to be shot on the spot. Many a Russian soldier met his end this way. Between 1942 and 1945, a total of 2,420 rapes were reported in England, 3,620 in France and more than 11,040 in Germany. No US soldier was ever executed for rape in Germany. As one GI wrote &#8216; Many a sane American family would recoil in horror if they knew how &#8216;our boys&#8217; over here conduct themselves&#8217;. The only way many German mothers could keep their children from starving was to become a mistress to one of the occupying troops. (It is estimated that around two million German women had undergone an illegal abortion in the three years after the war ended)<br />
</b></p>
<p>they also raped their own women in the camps&#8230; and jewish women&#8230; </p>
<p>and it wasnt courageous&#8230; the GRU and KGB had their own forces&#8230; the KGB forces were behind the GRU forces&#8230; the troops were conscripted, and if they turned around, the KGB forces killed them. </p>
<p>with that method, you would fight for them too. you either went forward, and killed and did it for them, or they killed or tortured you to death.. (or your family).</p>
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		<title>By: artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hitler was not on the extreme right... hitler was on the extreme left... stalin told his people to put EVERYONE to the right of communism... 

Stalin and soviets were INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISTS

Hitler and the nazis were NATIONAL SOCIALISTS...  

the latter wanted a lot more area for its people, the former wanted EVERYTHING.. 

engels talked about the holocaust of the middle class...  and we forget that there were another 6 million non jews killed. 

in fact the idea of a jewish identity that is married to the holocaust was an invention of the frankfurt school (rather than their identity being religious or cultural anymore), and its acceptance puts the sufferers of the same ideas at ods with each other, rather than at the people or political system (socialism) that is causing them. just as our socialism is allowing protesters last week to call for large ovens for the jews (florida). 

want to see how close they are? (and how by following the same thing, your actually helping stalin and communism, rather than correcting history and de-stalinizing it)

www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stalin-hitler.jpg

www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nazi-soviet-posters.jpg

look a lot alike, no?

by the way, the camps were NOT destroyed after wwii... we gave them to stalin who continued to use them. 

&quot;Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.&quot; -- Mikhail Gorbachev

In October 1917, we parted with the old world, rejecting it once and for all. We are moving toward a new world, a world of Communism. We shall never turn off that road.&quot; -- Mikhail Gorbachev

&quot;The threat of environmental crisis will be the &#039;international disaster key&#039; that will unlock the New World Order.&quot; -- Mikhail Gorbachev

&quot;We can&#039;t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.&quot; -- Nikita Kruschev

&quot;The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&quot; -- V.I. Lenin

&quot;A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.&quot; -- V.I. Lenin

&lt;b&gt;&quot;...first ascertain exactly the position of the various capitalists, then control them, influence them by restricting or enlarging, facilitating or hindering their credits, and finally they can entirely determine their fate.&quot; -- V.I. Lenin&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.&quot; - Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hitler was not on the extreme right&#8230; hitler was on the extreme left&#8230; stalin told his people to put EVERYONE to the right of communism&#8230; </p>
<p>Stalin and soviets were INTERNATIONAL SOCIALISTS</p>
<p>Hitler and the nazis were NATIONAL SOCIALISTS&#8230;  </p>
<p>the latter wanted a lot more area for its people, the former wanted EVERYTHING.. </p>
<p>engels talked about the holocaust of the middle class&#8230;  and we forget that there were another 6 million non jews killed. </p>
<p>in fact the idea of a jewish identity that is married to the holocaust was an invention of the frankfurt school (rather than their identity being religious or cultural anymore), and its acceptance puts the sufferers of the same ideas at ods with each other, rather than at the people or political system (socialism) that is causing them. just as our socialism is allowing protesters last week to call for large ovens for the jews (florida). </p>
<p>want to see how close they are? (and how by following the same thing, your actually helping stalin and communism, rather than correcting history and de-stalinizing it)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stalin-hitler.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stalin-hitler.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nazi-soviet-posters.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.sovietstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nazi-soviet-posters.jpg</a></p>
<p>look a lot alike, no?</p>
<p>by the way, the camps were NOT destroyed after wwii&#8230; we gave them to stalin who continued to use them. </p>
<p>&#8220;Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.&#8221; &#8212; Mikhail Gorbachev</p>
<p>In October 1917, we parted with the old world, rejecting it once and for all. We are moving toward a new world, a world of Communism. We shall never turn off that road.&#8221; &#8212; Mikhail Gorbachev</p>
<p>&#8220;The threat of environmental crisis will be the &#8216;international disaster key&#8217; that will unlock the New World Order.&#8221; &#8212; Mikhail Gorbachev</p>
<p>&#8220;We can&#8217;t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.&#8221; &#8212; Nikita Kruschev</p>
<p>&#8220;The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.&#8221; &#8212; V.I. Lenin</p>
<p>&#8220;A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.&#8221; &#8212; V.I. Lenin</p>
<p><b>&#8220;&#8230;first ascertain exactly the position of the various capitalists, then control them, influence them by restricting or enlarging, facilitating or hindering their credits, and finally they can entirely determine their fate.&#8221; &#8212; V.I. Lenin</b></p>
<p>&#8220;Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.&#8221; &#8211; Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Averko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Averko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald Radosh:

Regarding your reference to lenin&#039;s tomb, you didn&#039;t note how it was draped over with the Russian tricolor during the last Victory Day holday. How did lenin fare in this recent poll of historically popular Russians?

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Re: http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/
 
Be on the lookout for spin that downplays the poll result of how only 5% of Russians support an active return of Soviet symbols. 
People who seek to &quot;preserve&quot; symbols can do so in ways different from how some suggest. To underscore this point, in NY, there&#039;s a long running weekly military affairs show on a local radio station. The Jewish host of that show observed how a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are Jews.

During last year&#039;s European football (soccer) tournament, Russian fans overwhelmingly displayed current Russian symbols (the white, blue and red tricolor flag and two headed eagle) over Soviet ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Radosh:</p>
<p>Regarding your reference to lenin&#8217;s tomb, you didn&#8217;t note how it was draped over with the Russian tricolor during the last Victory Day holday. How did lenin fare in this recent poll of historically popular Russians?</p>
<p>****</p>
<p>Re: <a href="http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/32548/russians_would_save_symbols_of_communism/</a></p>
<p>Be on the lookout for spin that downplays the poll result of how only 5% of Russians support an active return of Soviet symbols.<br />
People who seek to &#8220;preserve&#8221; symbols can do so in ways different from how some suggest. To underscore this point, in NY, there&#8217;s a long running weekly military affairs show on a local radio station. The Jewish host of that show observed how a good number of Nazi regalia collectors are Jews.</p>
<p>During last year&#8217;s European football (soccer) tournament, Russian fans overwhelmingly displayed current Russian symbols (the white, blue and red tricolor flag and two headed eagle) over Soviet ones.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred - have you read Anatoly Golitsyn&#039;s &quot;New Lies for Old&quot;?  I have Chandler&#039;s book in the mail, but Golitsyn&#039;s was written in 1980 (based on a CIA memorandum he wrote in 1968) and published in 1984, even before Gorbachev took power.  You should check it out.  Probably &quot;the Andropov Plan&quot; is a second version of the one Golitsyn says was formulated in 1960 as a response to the excesses of Stalin and the destabilizing power struggle that followed thereafter and as a function of the realization that nuclear war was not the best method to global Communist victory - rather subversion was.  check it out, I think you&#039;ll like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred &#8211; have you read Anatoly Golitsyn&#8217;s &#8220;New Lies for Old&#8221;?  I have Chandler&#8217;s book in the mail, but Golitsyn&#8217;s was written in 1980 (based on a CIA memorandum he wrote in 1968) and published in 1984, even before Gorbachev took power.  You should check it out.  Probably &#8220;the Andropov Plan&#8221; is a second version of the one Golitsyn says was formulated in 1960 as a response to the excesses of Stalin and the destabilizing power struggle that followed thereafter and as a function of the realization that nuclear war was not the best method to global Communist victory &#8211; rather subversion was.  check it out, I think you&#8217;ll like it.</p>
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		<title>By: tony azevedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony azevedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as ideology fulls! We are all in the hands of the banksters and our future is eternal slavery. Therefore, it is very possible that in the near future communism will be the new alternative to economic slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as ideology fulls! We are all in the hands of the banksters and our future is eternal slavery. Therefore, it is very possible that in the near future communism will be the new alternative to economic slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 06:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weren&#039;t the Neocon’s ideological hero Leon Trotsky founder of the Red army and the first if not one of the first mass murderers of the Soviet Union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t the Neocon’s ideological hero Leon Trotsky founder of the Red army and the first if not one of the first mass murderers of the Soviet Union?</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Germany vote for Karl Marx as there 3rd most famous German?

Here in Britain we voted as number 1 greatest Britain genocidal warmonger/criminal Winston Churchill who as Buchannan pointed out got Britain to start WW2 with war guarantee to Poland to intervene on its behalf if Germany invaded who were slaughtering ethnic Germans in Poland given to them after Versailles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Germany vote for Karl Marx as there 3rd most famous German?</p>
<p>Here in Britain we voted as number 1 greatest Britain genocidal warmonger/criminal Winston Churchill who as Buchannan pointed out got Britain to start WW2 with war guarantee to Poland to intervene on its behalf if Germany invaded who were slaughtering ethnic Germans in Poland given to them after Versailles.</p>
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