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	<title>Comments on: With Friends Like These: The Return of Moral Equivalence</title>
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		<title>By: georgiebhoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgiebhoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prior to this assault in the last 8 years 14 Israelis have been killed by attacks from the Gaza Strip and more than 5,000 Palestinians killed by Israel. Last year no rockets are fired from the West Bank and 45 Palestinians were killed by Israel. No moral equivalence there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to this assault in the last 8 years 14 Israelis have been killed by attacks from the Gaza Strip and more than 5,000 Palestinians killed by Israel. Last year no rockets are fired from the West Bank and 45 Palestinians were killed by Israel. No moral equivalence there.</p>
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		<title>By: Larsen E Whipsnade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larsen E Whipsnade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, we&#039;re in agreement except you skipped the final decision: Israel has to take a position to either (a) submit, or (b) fight.  Which is correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, we&#8217;re in agreement except you skipped the final decision: Israel has to take a position to either (a) submit, or (b) fight.  Which is correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Another View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To All;

Israel sympathizers. That in it self is a oxy moron. You obviously are using the arguement Britain won the war against the Ottamans as your bases for there was no Palestine. That is where you start your ignorance. You must first understand Western borders and maps are only so relavant. These people were there and they had established commuities. You believe the lies that the land was barren. These people used and had access to the resources they needed.

The truth is is Israel is just a zionist apartheid state.People of the Yewish faith were the minority prior to Ben-Gurion. It has nothing to do with religion. Its all about Sephardi,Ashkenazi and Khazar stuff.If It was about Judaism the face of Israel would be much more diverse and tolerant. Ever since you had that paper British Agreement(Balfour agreement) you have been slaughtering natives and semites. It is human nature to resist oppression. They are indeed freedom fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All;</p>
<p>Israel sympathizers. That in it self is a oxy moron. You obviously are using the arguement Britain won the war against the Ottamans as your bases for there was no Palestine. That is where you start your ignorance. You must first understand Western borders and maps are only so relavant. These people were there and they had established commuities. You believe the lies that the land was barren. These people used and had access to the resources they needed.</p>
<p>The truth is is Israel is just a zionist apartheid state.People of the Yewish faith were the minority prior to Ben-Gurion. It has nothing to do with religion. Its all about Sephardi,Ashkenazi and Khazar stuff.If It was about Judaism the face of Israel would be much more diverse and tolerant. Ever since you had that paper British Agreement(Balfour agreement) you have been slaughtering natives and semites. It is human nature to resist oppression. They are indeed freedom fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larsen @52,

Yes, I know the distinction you laid out.  It&#039;s called the Dhimma, and only &quot;people of the Book&quot; are allowed that option.  Yes, they must submit to the crushing strictures of the Dhimma and pay a heavy jizya (poll tax)with humiliation.  That is what is called for in the Qur&#039;an and in Sharia Law.

But I will not submit to the Cult of Satan.  I will not acknowledge its supremacy, as it is blasphemous and monstrous.  Allah is not our God.  &quot;Allah&quot; - I am convinced of this - is really Satan.  Muhammad was in thrall to the Devil.  And to the Devil and all his fallen angels with the damned reprobates he has returned and with forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larsen @52,</p>
<p>Yes, I know the distinction you laid out.  It&#8217;s called the Dhimma, and only &#8220;people of the Book&#8221; are allowed that option.  Yes, they must submit to the crushing strictures of the Dhimma and pay a heavy jizya (poll tax)with humiliation.  That is what is called for in the Qur&#8217;an and in Sharia Law.</p>
<p>But I will not submit to the Cult of Satan.  I will not acknowledge its supremacy, as it is blasphemous and monstrous.  Allah is not our God.  &#8220;Allah&#8221; &#8211; I am convinced of this &#8211; is really Satan.  Muhammad was in thrall to the Devil.  And to the Devil and all his fallen angels with the damned reprobates he has returned and with forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Berman-Gorvine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Berman-Gorvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent column, Ron, but please remember that people and organizations like J Street must not be dignified with the honorable name of liberal. Liberals are people like Bobby Kennedy who was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist for his stalwart support of Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent column, Ron, but please remember that people and organizations like J Street must not be dignified with the honorable name of liberal. Liberals are people like Bobby Kennedy who was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist for his stalwart support of Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear moderator. You don&#039;t have to approve my comment if you don&#039;t want to. Just delete it. It&#039;s not that important to me. The human Psyche probably doesn&#039;t have anything to do with how humans behave anyway. Especially not primal emotions like fear and anger. No, no. They most likely behave rationally and in accordance with the political correctness of websites like Pajamas Media. In the unlikely event that peace in the middle east evolves like a miracle from heaven, I&#039;ll post an &quot;I told you so&quot; next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear moderator. You don&#8217;t have to approve my comment if you don&#8217;t want to. Just delete it. It&#8217;s not that important to me. The human Psyche probably doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with how humans behave anyway. Especially not primal emotions like fear and anger. No, no. They most likely behave rationally and in accordance with the political correctness of websites like Pajamas Media. In the unlikely event that peace in the middle east evolves like a miracle from heaven, I&#8217;ll post an &#8220;I told you so&#8221; next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Slobodan P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slobodan P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No American Jew has a right to judge Israel. Only those who live there can judge, and they do, with many voices and opinions. J-street is to the left of Naturei Karta, which is a real accomplishment. What can J-Street do for encore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No American Jew has a right to judge Israel. Only those who live there can judge, and they do, with many voices and opinions. J-street is to the left of Naturei Karta, which is a real accomplishment. What can J-Street do for encore?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph McNulty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph McNulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that Hamas is winning the international opinion fight.  Palestinian-ism is now a mainstream phenomenon.  The Palestinian headscarf is an increasingly common fashion item.  Look at the article in Newsweek that says its time for Obama to get tought WITH ISRAEL.  People are marching WITH terrorists who have no intention of finding a two-state solution.  The ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel, preceeded by American &quot;even-handedness.&quot;  I&#039;ve ofen said that this would be a different country when the number of Muslilms exceeded the number of Jews (as it recently did).  Why we have allowed the immigration of Muslims in such numbers (a Fifth Column undoubtedly) is beyond me.  Jew-hatred goes back to the Koran and predates the founding of Israel by 1,200 years.  I hope that Olmert is making plans for the self-sufficiency of Israel in weapons.  Thinking that the United States will be a steadfast friend is putting unwarranted weight on a fragile reed.  Nixon , the man who cracked antisemetic jokes, but saved Israel in 1973, is truly dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that Hamas is winning the international opinion fight.  Palestinian-ism is now a mainstream phenomenon.  The Palestinian headscarf is an increasingly common fashion item.  Look at the article in Newsweek that says its time for Obama to get tought WITH ISRAEL.  People are marching WITH terrorists who have no intention of finding a two-state solution.  The ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel, preceeded by American &#8220;even-handedness.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve ofen said that this would be a different country when the number of Muslilms exceeded the number of Jews (as it recently did).  Why we have allowed the immigration of Muslims in such numbers (a Fifth Column undoubtedly) is beyond me.  Jew-hatred goes back to the Koran and predates the founding of Israel by 1,200 years.  I hope that Olmert is making plans for the self-sufficiency of Israel in weapons.  Thinking that the United States will be a steadfast friend is putting unwarranted weight on a fragile reed.  Nixon , the man who cracked antisemetic jokes, but saved Israel in 1973, is truly dead.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Commentary magazine piece...

&quot;Hamas, then, is legally to blame for all, or nearly all, injuries and deaths of both Israelis and Palestinians.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Commentary magazine piece&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hamas, then, is legally to blame for all, or nearly all, injuries and deaths of both Israelis and Palestinians.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: john galt</title>
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		<dc:creator>john galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>much is at stake here.....   the IDF must be allowed to finish the job, a stalemate or a perceived sign of weakness is unacceptable to all freedom loving people of this planet.  

my fear is that obama will use this event to grandstand,  to cause a force withdrawl, to cause an end to the war.  this will only serve to stiffen the view that Israel is finished, only a matter of time.   

hamas?  it doesn&#039;t matter what they think or stand for.  their actions are unacceptable, and must be stopped.

the local leftists act and think like children.  they are pawns, being used by socialists to further some very crude plans to change the world.  sarah palin, for some reason, is much more evil than hamas in their view.

what is the end game?  it is really fuzzy out there, but:   europe is finished, iran has the bomb and control over all northern africa/middle east,  israel has a mass exodus and folds,  the US refuses to convert to islam and is the only real power left in the world with the exception of the chinese, not under islam.   we could have/should have supported the state of israel but we did not.......... this bit of real estate was the only effective stop between islamic control and  freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>much is at stake here&#8230;..   the IDF must be allowed to finish the job, a stalemate or a perceived sign of weakness is unacceptable to all freedom loving people of this planet.  </p>
<p>my fear is that obama will use this event to grandstand,  to cause a force withdrawl, to cause an end to the war.  this will only serve to stiffen the view that Israel is finished, only a matter of time.   </p>
<p>hamas?  it doesn&#8217;t matter what they think or stand for.  their actions are unacceptable, and must be stopped.</p>
<p>the local leftists act and think like children.  they are pawns, being used by socialists to further some very crude plans to change the world.  sarah palin, for some reason, is much more evil than hamas in their view.</p>
<p>what is the end game?  it is really fuzzy out there, but:   europe is finished, iran has the bomb and control over all northern africa/middle east,  israel has a mass exodus and folds,  the US refuses to convert to islam and is the only real power left in the world with the exception of the chinese, not under islam.   we could have/should have supported the state of israel but we did not&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. this bit of real estate was the only effective stop between islamic control and  freedom.</p>
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