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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panetta&#039;s appointment, and that of several other security cretins,can only serve to educate the idiots who voted for the tinplate Messiah,or failing that, to get rid of them. Remember: all the targets will be blue state cities populated by vivo type jerks,whose demise would leave us a smarter,and mentally healthier, nation.I say.confirm Panetta!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panetta&#8217;s appointment, and that of several other security cretins,can only serve to educate the idiots who voted for the tinplate Messiah,or failing that, to get rid of them. Remember: all the targets will be blue state cities populated by vivo type jerks,whose demise would leave us a smarter,and mentally healthier, nation.I say.confirm Panetta!</p>
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		<title>By: The Historian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CIA MYSTERY: WHERE DOES OBAMA STAND?
Is the departure of Bush good for terrorists?  Obama&#039;s choice of Panetta raises questions.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-bush-departure-good-news-for.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CIA MYSTERY: WHERE DOES OBAMA STAND?<br />
Is the departure of Bush good for terrorists?  Obama&#8217;s choice of Panetta raises questions.</p>
<p><a href="http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-bush-departure-good-news-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-bush-departure-good-news-for.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul - Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul - Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE post 34.  Carol, I was laughing too hard to respond, myself.  Thanks for the tweek on my data.  I guess some people will accept &gt;100% participation to get some clown like Al Franken [or Obambi] elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE post 34.  Carol, I was laughing too hard to respond, myself.  Thanks for the tweek on my data.  I guess some people will accept &gt;100% participation to get some clown like Al Franken [or Obambi] elected.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>67. ReConUSMC:

Do you know that writing in CAPS is like SHOUTING?

Boy, you must be exhausted . . .

&quot;PUSHED TO COMPLETE EXHAUSTION AND DEAL WITH LOTS OF PAIN JUST IN TRAINING&quot;

That&#039;s done voluntarily, you know.

&quot;BUT NO MOSLEM NATION OR TERRORIST GROUP HAS SIGNED ON TO IT YET ISRAEL IS A MEMBER .&quot;

The UN should make them sign.  How are terrorists going to sign??

&quot;I AM SURE IF A RUTHLESS RAPIST HAD ONE OF YOUR LOVES ONES HIDDEN …… YOU WOULD DO WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE INFO AND SAVE THEM&quot;

Of course, I&#039;m not stupid or useless.  Keep blabbering.

&quot;YOU WANT AND ADMIRE OUR ENEMY THAT FIGHTS US WITH NO RULES WHILE YOUR KIND HIDES ,&quot;

Who said I admire &quot;terrorists&quot;?  They can blow you or me any time.  They are hidden and kill indiscrimately.  The CIA job is to find them.  Panetta&#039;s job is to make sure all effective government agencies are on top of it.  Not like the jealous agencies in the past that did not communicate.  Military people are shortsighted by nature:  they follow rules/orders.  The rules are totally imperfect.  There is LOTS of room for improvement.  Give it a chance.  Think out of the box.

&quot;PUTTING OUR TROOPS IN FAR MORE DANGEROUS POSTITION TO DEFEND AMERICA &quot;

Bush put the troops in danger by foolishly going to Iraq, and keeping them there.  The Iraqis are not dumb, they are taking advantage of the Americans, who are wasting billions for nothing, and getting killed.  That&#039;s the apotheosis for stupidity.

&quot;YOU’LL WANTED US TO LOSE THUS ELECTING OBAMA&quot;

There is NO win in Iraq.  We invaded the frikkin country, so it makes sense to get out.  They&#039;ve been around for thousands of year and they want to keep it that way (unfortunately).

&quot;AND AMERICA BEING A WEAK EQUAL TO EUROPE&quot;

Peaceful is weak?  If you want action, join Blackwater.  You&#039;ll be so happy there.

&quot;NO MATTER WHAT AMERICA DOES OR DON’T DO OUR RACIAL MOSLEM ENEMIES WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO WIN .&quot;

And so smart Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>67. ReConUSMC:</p>
<p>Do you know that writing in CAPS is like SHOUTING?</p>
<p>Boy, you must be exhausted . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;PUSHED TO COMPLETE EXHAUSTION AND DEAL WITH LOTS OF PAIN JUST IN TRAINING&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s done voluntarily, you know.</p>
<p>&#8220;BUT NO MOSLEM NATION OR TERRORIST GROUP HAS SIGNED ON TO IT YET ISRAEL IS A MEMBER .&#8221;</p>
<p>The UN should make them sign.  How are terrorists going to sign??</p>
<p>&#8220;I AM SURE IF A RUTHLESS RAPIST HAD ONE OF YOUR LOVES ONES HIDDEN …… YOU WOULD DO WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE INFO AND SAVE THEM&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m not stupid or useless.  Keep blabbering.</p>
<p>&#8220;YOU WANT AND ADMIRE OUR ENEMY THAT FIGHTS US WITH NO RULES WHILE YOUR KIND HIDES ,&#8221;</p>
<p>Who said I admire &#8220;terrorists&#8221;?  They can blow you or me any time.  They are hidden and kill indiscrimately.  The CIA job is to find them.  Panetta&#8217;s job is to make sure all effective government agencies are on top of it.  Not like the jealous agencies in the past that did not communicate.  Military people are shortsighted by nature:  they follow rules/orders.  The rules are totally imperfect.  There is LOTS of room for improvement.  Give it a chance.  Think out of the box.</p>
<p>&#8220;PUTTING OUR TROOPS IN FAR MORE DANGEROUS POSTITION TO DEFEND AMERICA &#8221;</p>
<p>Bush put the troops in danger by foolishly going to Iraq, and keeping them there.  The Iraqis are not dumb, they are taking advantage of the Americans, who are wasting billions for nothing, and getting killed.  That&#8217;s the apotheosis for stupidity.</p>
<p>&#8220;YOU’LL WANTED US TO LOSE THUS ELECTING OBAMA&#8221;</p>
<p>There is NO win in Iraq.  We invaded the frikkin country, so it makes sense to get out.  They&#8217;ve been around for thousands of year and they want to keep it that way (unfortunately).</p>
<p>&#8220;AND AMERICA BEING A WEAK EQUAL TO EUROPE&#8221;</p>
<p>Peaceful is weak?  If you want action, join Blackwater.  You&#8217;ll be so happy there.</p>
<p>&#8220;NO MATTER WHAT AMERICA DOES OR DON’T DO OUR RACIAL MOSLEM ENEMIES WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO WIN .&#8221;</p>
<p>And so smart Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: ReConUSMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReConUSMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too Leftist vivo 
PAN.... NUT .. A  
IS  ON RECORD AND IS TOTALLY AGAINST VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONING KNOWN  TERRORIST WITH IMPORTANT INFO ..... 
AND LIKE DUMB ASS .. MC CAIN HE  IS AGAINST WATER BOARDING .
JUST FOR THE RECORD vivo ALL RECON MARINES , SEALS , SOME ARMY RANGERS , ALL SPECIAL FORCES ARE &#039;&#039;WATER BOARDED &quot; SCREAMED AT , GO DAYS WITHOUT FOOD OR SLEEP .... PUSHED TO COMPLETE EXHAUSTION AND DEAL WITH LOTS OF PAIN JUST IN TRAINING .
NO PROBLEM .
EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS &#039;&#039;AGAINST &#039;&#039; THE GENEVA CONVENTION BUT NO MOSLEM NATION OR TERRORIST GROUP HAS SIGNED ON TO IT  YET  ISRAEL IS A MEMBER .
 I AM SURE IF A RUTHLESS RAPIST HAD ONE OF YOUR LOVES ONES HIDDEN ...... YOU WOULD DO WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE INFO AND SAVE THEM USLESS YOUR A USE-LESS TYPICAL LIBERAL COWARD  .
SOMEHOW THAT DOES TRANSLATE TO THE LIBERAL MIND ? 
YOU WANT AND ADMIRE OUR ENEMY THAT FIGHTS US WITH NO RULES WHILE YOUR KIND HIDES ,
PUTTING  OUR TROOPS IN FAR MORE DANGEROUS POSTITION TO DEFEND AMERICA . 
LISTENING TO MANY LIBERALS ABOUT IRAQ IT BECAME MORE THAN  OBVIOUS YOU&#039;LL WANTED US TO LOSE THUS ELECTING OBAMA .LIBERALS ARE ABOUT POLITICS (SOCIALISM )FIRST , WORLD OPINIONS NEXT AND AMERICA BEING A WEAK EQUAL TO EUROPE NATION OR LESS . 
NO MATTER WHAT AMERICA DOES OR DON&#039;T DO OUR RACIAL MOSLEM ENEMIES WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO WIN .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too Leftist vivo<br />
PAN&#8230;. NUT .. A<br />
IS  ON RECORD AND IS TOTALLY AGAINST VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONING KNOWN  TERRORIST WITH IMPORTANT INFO &#8230;..<br />
AND LIKE DUMB ASS .. MC CAIN HE  IS AGAINST WATER BOARDING .<br />
JUST FOR THE RECORD vivo ALL RECON MARINES , SEALS , SOME ARMY RANGERS , ALL SPECIAL FORCES ARE &#8221;WATER BOARDED &#8221; SCREAMED AT , GO DAYS WITHOUT FOOD OR SLEEP &#8230;. PUSHED TO COMPLETE EXHAUSTION AND DEAL WITH LOTS OF PAIN JUST IN TRAINING .<br />
NO PROBLEM .<br />
EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS &#8221;AGAINST &#8221; THE GENEVA CONVENTION BUT NO MOSLEM NATION OR TERRORIST GROUP HAS SIGNED ON TO IT  YET  ISRAEL IS A MEMBER .<br />
 I AM SURE IF A RUTHLESS RAPIST HAD ONE OF YOUR LOVES ONES HIDDEN &#8230;&#8230; YOU WOULD DO WHAT IT TOOK TO GET THE INFO AND SAVE THEM USLESS YOUR A USE-LESS TYPICAL LIBERAL COWARD  .<br />
SOMEHOW THAT DOES TRANSLATE TO THE LIBERAL MIND ?<br />
YOU WANT AND ADMIRE OUR ENEMY THAT FIGHTS US WITH NO RULES WHILE YOUR KIND HIDES ,<br />
PUTTING  OUR TROOPS IN FAR MORE DANGEROUS POSTITION TO DEFEND AMERICA .<br />
LISTENING TO MANY LIBERALS ABOUT IRAQ IT BECAME MORE THAN  OBVIOUS YOU&#8217;LL WANTED US TO LOSE THUS ELECTING OBAMA .LIBERALS ARE ABOUT POLITICS (SOCIALISM )FIRST , WORLD OPINIONS NEXT AND AMERICA BEING A WEAK EQUAL TO EUROPE NATION OR LESS .<br />
NO MATTER WHAT AMERICA DOES OR DON&#8217;T DO OUR RACIAL MOSLEM ENEMIES WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO WIN .</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63. ReConUSMC:

&quot; We are seeing America ”Change ” actually going back to the years before WW1 and 10 years before WW 2 .&quot;

And you bring it back to age of the dinosaurs.

US intelligence worked for a while but they want to run the game themselves, not for the benefit of the Country.  McCain said Country First, remember?  It&#039;s time to act like that.  I&#039;m surprised Obama was smart enough to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63. ReConUSMC:</p>
<p>&#8221; We are seeing America ”Change ” actually going back to the years before WW1 and 10 years before WW 2 .&#8221;</p>
<p>And you bring it back to age of the dinosaurs.</p>
<p>US intelligence worked for a while but they want to run the game themselves, not for the benefit of the Country.  McCain said Country First, remember?  It&#8217;s time to act like that.  I&#8217;m surprised Obama was smart enough to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;When I go out in the back yard and whisper &quot;Obama, Obama&quot;, I see tingles in my drain field that go all the way into the septic tank. Try it yourself. It may fix your sewage problems..&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>When I go out in the back yard and whisper &#8220;Obama, Obama&#8221;, I see tingles in my drain field that go all the way into the septic tank. Try it yourself. It may fix your sewage problems..</b></p>
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		<title>By: ReConUSMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReConUSMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Tooooo Good !

I can see Bill Clinton sitting on his Back Porch in the Hamptons

with Leon Panetta smoking Cigars while Hillary sip&#039;s Wine all Laughing and saying ..... could anybody on Earth Imagine only

One month ago .

Most of My old Staff and half of my old Cabinet &quot;Plus &quot;Hillary as Sec. of State would be running the &#039;World&#039; now under that .. &#039;&#039; what Change fellow &quot;? ... what his name again ?

Now there &quot;No Change&quot; I can believe in .

Bubba is right of course sadly .

 
For those that Voted for &quot;Change &quot;. I feel your Pain .. Not really .

Same old Same ... America .... This is a recording .
You will notice the Media won&#039;t mention &quot;&quot;Leon P &quot; INEXPERIENCE in a World he know not  ..... I Guess they used all that energy up on Sarah Palin .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Tooooo Good !</p>
<p>I can see Bill Clinton sitting on his Back Porch in the Hamptons</p>
<p>with Leon Panetta smoking Cigars while Hillary sip&#8217;s Wine all Laughing and saying &#8230;.. could anybody on Earth Imagine only</p>
<p>One month ago .</p>
<p>Most of My old Staff and half of my old Cabinet &#8220;Plus &#8220;Hillary as Sec. of State would be running the &#8216;World&#8217; now under that .. &#8221; what Change fellow &#8220;? &#8230; what his name again ?</p>
<p>Now there &#8220;No Change&#8221; I can believe in .</p>
<p>Bubba is right of course sadly .</p>
<p>For those that Voted for &#8220;Change &#8220;. I feel your Pain .. Not really .</p>
<p>Same old Same &#8230; America &#8230;. This is a recording .<br />
You will notice the Media won&#8217;t mention &#8220;&#8221;Leon P &#8221; INEXPERIENCE in a World he know not  &#8230;.. I Guess they used all that energy up on Sarah Palin .</p>
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		<title>By: ReConUSMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReConUSMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too 60-Bugs .. 

In truth this is scary S**T ...... We are seeing America &#039;&#039;Change &quot; actually going back to the  years before WW1 and  10 years before WW 2 . 
The new word for our Troops , DOD , DIA , FBI , CIA will be.......  &#039;&#039;Freeze ! Your under arrest 
 And then Read them their Miranda rights ? Sad ... Sad S**T ! 

Just for the record {60 Bugs} It took me 2.2 years after OCS ..... At Q-CO to become a ReCon Marine . That  was having to Graduate in the Top 10 % at Q-CO to apply for ReCon .
We had 16 different schools from Q Kill , Scuba ,Sub Training ,Seal School 21  at Little Creek VA   Jump , Jungle Warfare , Survival , Blow your ass up , Mountain RePell  , WATER BOARDING  to name a few ......If you failed one class you were History .You could get too many people killed .
Politicians don&#039;t make NONE SKILLED Warriors or Leaders of Professional MEN at times like now with World Wide Terrorism ...... you Fool .
I remember seeing Boot 2nd LT&#039;s in Nam being to Green too lead coming back in Body bags Not shot by VC . The was Fragged . 
The last thing this Country needs is a Boot terrorism CIA  &#039;&#039;Expert &quot; .DUH !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too 60-Bugs .. </p>
<p>In truth this is scary S**T &#8230;&#8230; We are seeing America &#8221;Change &#8221; actually going back to the  years before WW1 and  10 years before WW 2 .<br />
The new word for our Troops , DOD , DIA , FBI , CIA will be&#8230;&#8230;.  &#8221;Freeze ! Your under arrest<br />
 And then Read them their Miranda rights ? Sad &#8230; Sad S**T ! </p>
<p>Just for the record {60 Bugs} It took me 2.2 years after OCS &#8230;.. At Q-CO to become a ReCon Marine . That  was having to Graduate in the Top 10 % at Q-CO to apply for ReCon .<br />
We had 16 different schools from Q Kill , Scuba ,Sub Training ,Seal School 21  at Little Creek VA   Jump , Jungle Warfare , Survival , Blow your ass up , Mountain RePell  , WATER BOARDING  to name a few &#8230;&#8230;If you failed one class you were History .You could get too many people killed .<br />
Politicians don&#8217;t make NONE SKILLED Warriors or Leaders of Professional MEN at times like now with World Wide Terrorism &#8230;&#8230; you Fool .<br />
I remember seeing Boot 2nd LT&#8217;s in Nam being to Green too lead coming back in Body bags Not shot by VC . The was Fragged .<br />
The last thing this Country needs is a Boot terrorism CIA  &#8221;Expert &#8221; .DUH !</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, hopefully not all of them; hopefully some are secret.  

the intelligence community may or may not be unfairly maligned; it is true that - if they are doing their jobs correctly - we the public would not be in a position to know. 

however, it may be that one thing the CIA and related agencies has mismanaged is its own public image.  it may also be that they have an outdated sense of whether they ought to disclose their victories.  presuming the critics are wrong, it seems to be an inherently unsound strategy to never or almost never provide evidence of effectiveness and competence and indeed victory when it is the case that intelligence failures - or apparent intelligence failures - are reported and often sensationalized. 

in fact the more i learn about how covert actions of our enemies would probably be utterly scuttled - certainly some essential part of their intended effects would be utterly scuttled - if some credible senator would just stand up and announce their existence. 

in the world as it is, there must be an enormous amount of intelligence and covert and disinformation ops happening all the time.  the more i learn, the more i begin to believe that there is something about government secrecy with respect to these things that seem vaguely but genuinely spooky. 

after all, it may be possible that the actual picture of the world looks so different from the known or knowable picture of the world that, in trying to preserve its own effectiveness in intelligence, a nation like the United States has rendered itself positively unable to talk about the world as it is. 

surely that is the very opposite of the intentions of the founding fathers and the design of the government.  seems like *those* are the chickens that are coming to roost.  not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, hopefully not all of them; hopefully some are secret.  </p>
<p>the intelligence community may or may not be unfairly maligned; it is true that &#8211; if they are doing their jobs correctly &#8211; we the public would not be in a position to know. </p>
<p>however, it may be that one thing the CIA and related agencies has mismanaged is its own public image.  it may also be that they have an outdated sense of whether they ought to disclose their victories.  presuming the critics are wrong, it seems to be an inherently unsound strategy to never or almost never provide evidence of effectiveness and competence and indeed victory when it is the case that intelligence failures &#8211; or apparent intelligence failures &#8211; are reported and often sensationalized. </p>
<p>in fact the more i learn about how covert actions of our enemies would probably be utterly scuttled &#8211; certainly some essential part of their intended effects would be utterly scuttled &#8211; if some credible senator would just stand up and announce their existence. </p>
<p>in the world as it is, there must be an enormous amount of intelligence and covert and disinformation ops happening all the time.  the more i learn, the more i begin to believe that there is something about government secrecy with respect to these things that seem vaguely but genuinely spooky. </p>
<p>after all, it may be possible that the actual picture of the world looks so different from the known or knowable picture of the world that, in trying to preserve its own effectiveness in intelligence, a nation like the United States has rendered itself positively unable to talk about the world as it is. </p>
<p>surely that is the very opposite of the intentions of the founding fathers and the design of the government.  seems like *those* are the chickens that are coming to roost.  not good.</p>
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