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	<title>Comments on: Obama vs. Cheney: Jack Goldsmith is Right</title>
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		<title>By: The Historian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GITMO SPEECH REVEALS MUCH ABOUT OBAMA
Most all of it is not good.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-his-gitmo-speech-reveals-about.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GITMO SPEECH REVEALS MUCH ABOUT OBAMA<br />
Most all of it is not good.</p>
<p><a href="http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-his-gitmo-speech-reveals-about.html" rel="nofollow">http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-his-gitmo-speech-reveals-about.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mockingbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mockingbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bible warns of being self absorbed and arrogant, and I think Obama is arrogant and self absorbed. During his eight years, George Bush always had humility, and it is a very good trait and one that I always side with, because Jesus had it, if you read his words in the bible you would see he had it and George Bush must have read the bible, because I feel he went by it. 
If you were to stand a bragging man in one corner and a humble man in the other corner, I will run to the humble mans side every time. Because the humble man is the good side and the arrogant one is evil. 
I feel we need Dick Cheney speaking up right now, and that he is doing a great service to our Military and to our country. I wish he were President. 
Dick Cheney has “True Grit” and we are seeing a modern day cowboy ride in on his horse and save his country by putting the bad guys in their place just like John Wayne. 
Thank You for your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bible warns of being self absorbed and arrogant, and I think Obama is arrogant and self absorbed. During his eight years, George Bush always had humility, and it is a very good trait and one that I always side with, because Jesus had it, if you read his words in the bible you would see he had it and George Bush must have read the bible, because I feel he went by it.<br />
If you were to stand a bragging man in one corner and a humble man in the other corner, I will run to the humble mans side every time. Because the humble man is the good side and the arrogant one is evil.<br />
I feel we need Dick Cheney speaking up right now, and that he is doing a great service to our Military and to our country. I wish he were President.<br />
Dick Cheney has “True Grit” and we are seeing a modern day cowboy ride in on his horse and save his country by putting the bad guys in their place just like John Wayne.<br />
Thank You for your article.</p>
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		<title>By: shaui-jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaui-jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>74.acj.&quot;Obama has made real changes by starting the process of closing Gitmo and putting suspected terrorist in high security prisons.&quot;

real nice...starting the process...that&#039;s a good one.

&quot;and putting suspected terrorist in high security prisons.&quot;

the vast majority of the country&#039;s national gang leaders are in one prison,housed in the same building..the same unit.pelican bay SHU.guess what.... these &quot;shot callers&quot;still control the gangs......despite the strictest security imaginable......they still order murders.so you think bringing terrorists here is a good idea?


&quot;He has also made public his view on water boarding as an unethical form of torture.&quot;

which is why he retained the right to use it....when he feels like it.

 &quot;Obama has gone to Europe to apologize for America’s last 8 years.&quot;

which america was this?

 &quot;The lack of action in Afghanistan and the offensive approach to war with Iraq lost all empathy for the 9/11 attacks. It set us back.&quot;

i could care less about people&#039;s &#039;empathy&#039; when all they offer is empty platitudes.
if you think commiting additional conventional land forces to afganistan was a good idea...well then your among the smallest minority of the informed.
a bunch of dead tango&#039;s is not&#039;a set back&#039;......it is progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>74.acj.&#8221;Obama has made real changes by starting the process of closing Gitmo and putting suspected terrorist in high security prisons.&#8221;</p>
<p>real nice&#8230;starting the process&#8230;that&#8217;s a good one.</p>
<p>&#8220;and putting suspected terrorist in high security prisons.&#8221;</p>
<p>the vast majority of the country&#8217;s national gang leaders are in one prison,housed in the same building..the same unit.pelican bay SHU.guess what&#8230;. these &#8220;shot callers&#8221;still control the gangs&#8230;&#8230;despite the strictest security imaginable&#8230;&#8230;they still order murders.so you think bringing terrorists here is a good idea?</p>
<p>&#8220;He has also made public his view on water boarding as an unethical form of torture.&#8221;</p>
<p>which is why he retained the right to use it&#8230;.when he feels like it.</p>
<p> &#8220;Obama has gone to Europe to apologize for America’s last 8 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>which america was this?</p>
<p> &#8220;The lack of action in Afghanistan and the offensive approach to war with Iraq lost all empathy for the 9/11 attacks. It set us back.&#8221;</p>
<p>i could care less about people&#8217;s &#8216;empathy&#8217; when all they offer is empty platitudes.<br />
if you think commiting additional conventional land forces to afganistan was a good idea&#8230;well then your among the smallest minority of the informed.<br />
a bunch of dead tango&#8217;s is not&#8217;a set back&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;it is progress.</p>
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		<title>By: sheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the winner is . . . radical Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the winner is . . . radical Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 22:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DS:
I&#039;d go hunting with Cheney any day.  He won&#039;t turn on me like Obama does. And I&#039;m armed.

And Obama is full of bovine excerement.  Cheney, facts.  I&#039;m waiting for your point-by-point refutation of his speeech - since you know so damn much.

Enlighten us - really - show us some facts.  Your opinion? well, ust like anuses, everybody&#039;s got one, and yours smells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS:<br />
I&#8217;d go hunting with Cheney any day.  He won&#8217;t turn on me like Obama does. And I&#8217;m armed.</p>
<p>And Obama is full of bovine excerement.  Cheney, facts.  I&#8217;m waiting for your point-by-point refutation of his speeech &#8211; since you know so damn much.</p>
<p>Enlighten us &#8211; really &#8211; show us some facts.  Your opinion? well, ust like anuses, everybody&#8217;s got one, and yours smells.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@60. Delia:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nice try.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The idea that the GOP needs a terror attack wasn&#039;t mine.  I was just passing on this gem:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Arkansas_GOP_head_We_need_more_0603.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In his first interview as the chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party, Dennis Milligan told a reporter that America needs to be attacked by terrorists so that people will appreciate the work that President Bush has done to protect the country.&lt;/a&gt;

Cheney appears to be pursuing the same &#039;logic&#039;.  


&lt;b&gt;@63. shaui-jan:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;that comment encapsualates so much ignorance…..so succinctly…i am at a loss for words…good job.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really can&#039;t take credit - it was an &#039;inside&#039; job.


&lt;b&gt;@65. twolaneflash:&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thinking and arguing with honesty and clarity is not the way of liberals. The compulsion of the left to generate emotional conflict filled with fear, uncertainty, and doubt, then to call that an honorable argument. The Alinsky rules for radicals are only effective against the ignorant and gullible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m quite sure that Cheney&#039;s remarks were intended to generate emotional conflict filled with fear, uncertainty, and doubt.  It would be willfully dishonest to call Cheney&#039;s an honorable argument based on your criteria.

You make this too easy.  Cheney is preying on the worst fears and prejudices of the people and all you can do is complain that Obama wants to restore the rule of law.  Ignorant and gullible?  Keep up the demonstration.  You&#039;re doing it right.

Peace.

DS

PS - Have fun hunting with Cheney!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@60. Delia:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Nice try.</p></blockquote>
<p>The idea that the GOP needs a terror attack wasn&#8217;t mine.  I was just passing on this gem:<br />
<a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Arkansas_GOP_head_We_need_more_0603.html" rel="nofollow">In his first interview as the chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party, Dennis Milligan told a reporter that America needs to be attacked by terrorists so that people will appreciate the work that President Bush has done to protect the country.</a></p>
<p>Cheney appears to be pursuing the same &#8216;logic&#8217;.  </p>
<p><b>@63. shaui-jan:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>that comment encapsualates so much ignorance…..so succinctly…i am at a loss for words…good job.</p></blockquote>
<p>I really can&#8217;t take credit &#8211; it was an &#8216;inside&#8217; job.</p>
<p><b>@65. twolaneflash:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Thinking and arguing with honesty and clarity is not the way of liberals. The compulsion of the left to generate emotional conflict filled with fear, uncertainty, and doubt, then to call that an honorable argument. The Alinsky rules for radicals are only effective against the ignorant and gullible.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m quite sure that Cheney&#8217;s remarks were intended to generate emotional conflict filled with fear, uncertainty, and doubt.  It would be willfully dishonest to call Cheney&#8217;s an honorable argument based on your criteria.</p>
<p>You make this too easy.  Cheney is preying on the worst fears and prejudices of the people and all you can do is complain that Obama wants to restore the rule of law.  Ignorant and gullible?  Keep up the demonstration.  You&#8217;re doing it right.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Have fun hunting with Cheney!</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivo, how can Obama have it right? He wants it both ways. He also wants to give terrorists Constitutional rights when they are not Americans &amp; wants to put the same terrorists on Welfare! 

North Korea&#039;s nuclear test today just shows once more Obama is out of his depth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivo, how can Obama have it right? He wants it both ways. He also wants to give terrorists Constitutional rights when they are not Americans &amp; wants to put the same terrorists on Welfare! </p>
<p>North Korea&#8217;s nuclear test today just shows once more Obama is out of his depth.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 07:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has it right.

Cheney had it all wrong.

Keeping things simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has it right.</p>
<p>Cheney had it all wrong.</p>
<p>Keeping things simple.</p>
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		<title>By: soupcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>soupcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought you to be a much more intelligent man, Mr Radosh.Have you been fooling so many of us these past 10 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought you to be a much more intelligent man, Mr Radosh.Have you been fooling so many of us these past 10 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean David Thomson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean David Thomson.</p>
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