Comments on: L.A. Times Weasel-Worded Defense Continues Appearance of Cover-up

By: Someone75

Someone75 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:45:08 +0000

Marc:

I think skink’s problem is the same one I have with PJs. There’s so much finger-pointing, so much scorn, and so much arrogance about how this is the ONLY place where you can receive “honest” reporting.

I find that idea offensive. I wouldn’t mind Fox News at all (There SHOULD be a conservative network, if not two or three), if it weren’t for the fact that they act like they’re neutral. They aren’t neutral. They’re as biased as MSNBC. That’s fine as well, but don’t tell me that I’m hearing nothing but the plain truth.

I frequently get sick of the attitude here that everyone else is either a liar or just stupid. I don’t want to put words in Skink’s mouth, but I would guess that’s where he’s coming from.

Skink: Are you out there? What’s your take?

By: Kantian Journalism

Kantian Journalism — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:34:01 +0000

[...] what seems especially puzzling about all the whining over the L.A. Times‘ refusal to release a tape of Barack Obama at Rashid Khalidi’s [...]

By: Janeway

Janeway — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:15:08 +0000

I cannot understand why the LA Times just didn’t bury the entire thing. Why mention it at all if they can’t or won’t back it up? It makes no sense. What is the saying -”Publish or Perish”
- looks like the Times as chosen to perish.

By: Edmund Jenks (MAXINE)

Edmund Jenks (MAXINE) — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:55:15 +0000

In a Carter’s Second Term (if Barack Obama becomes president) … What role will this association of President Obama’s play – would this guy become our chief adviser to the Middle East … or just the ambassador to the Palestinians?

By: Rob Stevenson

Rob Stevenson — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:35:41 +0000

Ante up LA Times. After all, what was the purpose of your source giving you a tape anyway? To NOT disclose it publicly? I don’t think so. If you possessed evidence damaging to the Republicans, you wouldn’t hesitate to broadcast it to the WORLD ASAP… and you know it. How can you look at yourselves in the mirror every morning and not see a hypocrite staring back at you?

By: MarkO

MarkO — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:21:56 +0000

To make some sense of how to umpire this cowardly and legally indefensible act, we can copy what happens in court if someone destroys evidence. When that happens, we can fairly make the most negative, prejudicial inference about what the evidence would have shown. There is no presumption that one destroys or withholds evidence for any legitimate reason.

But, as has been pointed out here, the paper is apparently not under even some imaginary obligation to withhold the information in the tape. Yet, the paper is embargoing the informatoin. Again, the same inference must be drawn.

What is that inference? This: we must draw the inference that release of the tape or the information therein would end Obama’s chance to be president. At least that’s how it would go for destroyed (or withheld) evidence in Federal Court. Why not here?

By: This Is the Khalidi Obama Embraced | Citizen-Right

This Is the Khalidi Obama Embraced | Citizen-Right — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:40:05 +0000

[...] others have surmised that the Los Angeles Times is running interference for Barack Obama, declining not just to provide [...]

By: Rachel Cohen

Rachel Cohen — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:03:55 +0000

I’m guessing that it was the belly dancers dressed as Ilsa, SheWolf of the SS, that are embarrassing.

OR did Obama’s camp sent the tape, thinking it showed him in a “good” light?

By: charlie finch

charlie finch — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:56:33 +0000

Obama’s early “rabbis” in Chcago included Abner Mikva, Newton Minow and the Pritzker family. Neither he nor Michelle would have advanced so far so quickly with out these essential early backers. The problem is that duality of identification is part of the stratification of the ethnic divide in Chicago. Reminds me of Adam Clayton Powell’s tale of his youth on 125th Street in Harlem. He had a black father and an Irish mother so, if he walked on the south side of the street, the irish hugs would beat ‘em up; the north side, the blacks would beat ‘em up. Hence, Powell always walked down the middle of 125th Street, dodging the cars. “Passing” and “pandering” are what all politicians do: it is what Barack IS, the chameleon, the shapeshifter, the man with multiple identities, yet none at all.

By: Bill in NY

Bill in NY — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:53:16 +0000

gosh I don’t see the usual Obama suspects/defenders shooshing away all of this as tin foil hat conspiracy theories from the right wing nut jobs… maybe they are so busy doing that, so many times, for so many unanswered questions about their hope & change hero… they just can’t cover all the bases. Nah, they’ll be showing up any minute now to pooh-pooh this as “no evidence, no problem”. Seems like a standard reply to every damn thing about this guy, except what we do know for a fact, he’s a socialist.